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Deviate
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do you bless your drugs before you trip?
#22192476 - 09/05/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I recently started blessing my psychedelics before tripping but i was reading about Maria Sabina, the famous mexican mushroom lady and she said the mushrooms must be taken to a church and blessed before the Holy Spirit before they can be used. So last night I took the mushrooms to my church and blessed them before the Holy Spirit. It will be interesting to see if I get a better trip now.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Deviate]
#22192530 - 09/05/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That sounds cool. Probably no actual effects from that though IMO
But since you know that they are blessed maybe it will be even better for you!
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: impatientguy]
#22192699 - 09/05/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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impatientguy said: That sounds cool. Probably no actual effects from that though IMO
But since you know that they are blessed maybe it will be even better for you!
We all know tripping is about set and setting, preflight rituals are part of that.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Deviate]
#22192765 - 09/05/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not always, but I do try to. Back when was into spreading the Light I would meditate & pray over each batch of L I received before I sold/handed any of it out.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Dark_Star]
#22192779 - 09/05/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I used to, but I never noticed a difference. I do meditate briefly before taking any psychedelic.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: impatientguy]
#22192840 - 09/05/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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impatientguy said: That sounds cool. Probably no actual effects from that though IMO
But since you know that they are blessed maybe it will be even better for you!
Well I don't know what the effects will be, but I trust that Maria Sabina knew a lot more about the spiritual aspect of mushrooms than I do. So if she says they must be taken to a church, I will take them to a church.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Peyote Road]
#22192853 - 09/05/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haha nice I hope you have some super angelic mushroom trip!
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: impatientguy]
#22193846 - 09/05/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Drugs that are put in the booty should be blessed. It's the least you can do to comfort them.
But hey, it's all in your head, and since that's where the drugs are going, only do it if you need to do it.. but you don't need to do it, unless you do. You know?
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: impatientguy]
#22195447 - 09/06/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't bless but I make sure to thank mother nature for giving me the beautiful treats. And like others have said, meditate on them. Think about
their life and the process up to the point of eating them. Mother nature provides us with plenty treats if ya open your eyes and are thankful!
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: TrippieHunter]
#22195461 - 09/06/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I ask them for guidance on whatever I'd like to experience, that's about it
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Deviate]
#22196166 - 09/06/15 08:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I give thanks to Mother Nature & the gifts I'm about to recieve, lol. I don't bless them but I do express sincere gratitude.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Intothewild]
#22196744 - 09/06/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Charge them with Reiki 
Also acknowledge the plant and thank it!
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: AkashicExplorer]
#22197030 - 09/06/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nah, for me personally religion/religious rituals of any nature pollutes or steers the experience. I feel like even sacrament for the universe at large is the same. Personal emotionally based conjecture used to satisfy the ego to achieve a feeling of understanding/acceptance/explanation. I like to clear my mind and drift thru the experience at hand.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Deviate]
#22197881 - 09/06/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Deviate said: I recently started blessing my psychedelics before tripping but i was reading about Maria Sabina, the famous mexican mushroom lady and she said the mushrooms must be taken to a church and blessed before the Holy Spirit before they can be used. So last night I took the mushrooms to my church and blessed them before the Holy Spirit. It will be interesting to see if I get a better trip now.
PLACEBO as a substitute for MAOi
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Edited by Dr. Delban (09/06/15 03:51 PM)
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Dr. Delban]
#22198306 - 09/06/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I did this a couple summers ago when I was obsessed with weed. Eventually realized how weird it was. Although I probably should have done something of the sort before I took my last lsd trip.. because it felt pretty unholy. Haven't touched a psych since.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: The5thBeatle]
#22200057 - 09/06/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have high respect for whatever I'm doing (usually DMT, Amanita Muscaria mushrooms, or LSA). I surrender myself in a sense and I whisper to my DMT what it is that I'm trying to look for (I've asked it to prove to me that the afterlife is real, I asked to meet an entity, and I've asked what I should do with my life). I'd like to note that even though I surrender myself to it, I find it equally important to embrace it with courage ready to dive in as far as you can possibly go. Sort of like jumping off a cliff.
I'm not sure I would say I bless it though.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Deviate]
#22200171 - 09/07/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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336 said: This is completely random but I love the line in your sig, "We're suicidal kids telling other suicidal kids that suicide isn't the answer."
Thanks man
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22200502 - 09/07/15 02:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've heard of people doing it
I think it's cool. Especially if it's mushrooms that you grew yourself
But I personally have never done it
Maybe next time
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22200512 - 09/07/15 03:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I do prey to bless my trip and that it may be a wonderful one. I prey to bless my lsd and i think of my intentions for the trip. What i would like to get out of it. I believe thoughts create our reality on some higher level. so it makes sense to me that if im creating my reality and using something as special as lsd that im able to manifest what im seeking.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22200732 - 09/07/15 06:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said: I whisper to my DMT what it is that I'm trying to look for (I've asked it to prove to me that the afterlife is real, I asked to meet an entity, and I've asked what I should do with my life).
I'm curious, what did it answer?
I'm reminded of that story by McKenna where he tells he asked the mushroom (IIRC) if he was doing the right thing with his life? And the shroom answered: "What the F kind of question is that? Get your act together! If you're into that kind of questions, take MDMA!"
Not trying to make fun of you, of course. Just a little curious...
Love, Hanz.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Hanz]
#22200916 - 09/07/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hanz said:
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Kush_Zombie said: I whisper to my DMT what it is that I'm trying to look for (I've asked it to prove to me that the afterlife is real, I asked to meet an entity, and I've asked what I should do with my life).
I'm curious, what did it answer?
I'm reminded of that story by McKenna where he tells he asked the mushroom (IIRC) if he was doing the right thing with his life? And the shroom answered: "What the F kind of question is that? Get your act together! If you're into that kind of questions, take MDMA!"
Not trying to make fun of you, of course. Just a little curious...
Love, Hanz.
I actually worte a report on it last night if you'd like to check it out. Smoking DMT at the peak of my LSA trip
I asked 2 of those questions in 1 trip. In the trip where I asked to find an entity I was delivered a very beautiful trip but no entity presented itself to me until a future trip at which time (and I'm just going to copy and paste this from another thread I posted about it in) I was in a pyramid at one point (most of my trips revolve around Egyptian themes even though I have no knowledge about Egyptians) talking to a woman with green hair and green glowing eyes. I kept persisting that she show me something even though I wasn't completely sure what it was I was wanting her to show me but I knew she knew something extraordinary. She came up to my face extremely quickly once I asked almost as if to see if she could scare me while at the same time looking very deep into my soul. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't intimidated but I insisted that she still show me. She brought me to a hidden door in the pyramid and there was this sphere that contained more energy than any of us could comprehend. I was in awe and wasn't exactly sure what it was I was staring at except I knew it was a power source of some sort. An extremely powerful power source that was pure. I don't remember anything after that but I still thank her for showing me what she did, it was very clear that she didn't have to bother with me or could have easily caused discomfort of some sort to my mind if not my soul.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22201017 - 09/07/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea I bless mine for sure I ask Satan to beam his almighty wisdom into my mushrooms
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22201263 - 09/07/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I ask for their blessing and I tell them I trust and welcome what they give unto me.....open acceptance of the experience they offer...
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: voodoochild1000]
#22201364 - 09/07/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well here is an update. I ate 5.5 grams of the blessed mushrooms in the forest and during the trip I listened to a recording Maria Sabina's sacred mushroom ceremony.
Her singing sounded like some kind of divine language. Obviously I can't be 100% sure but I feel as though blessing the mushrooms in a church greatly affected the trip. Unlike my last trip which was extremely euphoric and recreational, this trip was a purification experience. Ecstatic and joyful at times, but also painful and humbling at others. I could feel the power of the Holy Spirit working through the mushrooms to purify my mind. I had visions of both Jesus Christ and the Virgin Mary, as well as the new heaven and new earth described by St. John in the book of Revelation.
Note: I am the same user as deviate who made this thread but I forgot my password to that account.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22201440 - 09/07/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said: I actually worte a report on it last night if you'd like to check it out. Smoking DMT at the peak of my LSA trip
Cool, I'm reading it now.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Hanz]
#22201752 - 09/07/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lord, please baptise this jenkem so I may walk closer with thee.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: jahrastafareye]
#22204825 - 09/07/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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jahrastafareye said: Lord, please baptise this jenkem so I may walk closer with thee.
I just don't understand the world now a days. I mean blessing drugs? Da fuck? I can understand respecting the drug but trying to bless it is pretty fuckin hilarious. And yes i know the post I qouted was a joke, but this thread in general gave me some solid lols.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22204835 - 09/07/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dr.Satan said:
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jahrastafareye said: Lord, please baptise this jenkem so I may walk closer with thee.
I just don't understand the world now a days. I mean blessing drugs? Da fuck? I can understand respecting the drug but trying to bless it is pretty fuckin hilarious. And yes i know the post I qouted was a joke, but this thread in general gave me some solid lols.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22204847 - 09/07/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said:
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Dr.Satan said:
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jahrastafareye said: Lord, please baptise this jenkem so I may walk closer with thee.
I just don't understand the world now a days. I mean blessing drugs? Da fuck? I can understand respecting the drug but trying to bless it is pretty fuckin hilarious. And yes i know the post I qouted was a joke, but this thread in general gave me some solid lols.

religious people are fucking comedy at it's finest. they get all christy about anything
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22204859 - 09/07/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd have to agree with you...but I think there's a difference between religious and spiritual
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22204873 - 09/07/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said: I'd have to agree with you...but I think there's a difference between religious and spiritual
Well I agree, but the way this op was worded he made it seem pretty fuckin religious to me. I'm not judging or anything, but tbh I couldn't help but laugh at the thought of taking drugs to church all serious like "please god make these shroomies good" fuckin golden joke OP made
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Dr.Satan]
#22204886 - 09/07/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: SnowDaze]
#22204977 - 09/07/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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here what I think, If you treat the substance with Respect and Understand what your getting into, and Yes set and setting are Everything, I've prayed for my journeys and meditated and fasted for days, so in a way that is blessing and respect to the substance....IMHO.......
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22205003 - 09/07/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It might seem funny to some from the standpoint of our materialistic non spiritual culture, but from a shamanic point of view it is not funny at all, it is an important ritual. The spirit world is quite real and our relationship with the spirit world and the creator determines our level of well being in both this life and the next. Some people trip out on drugs for fun, but others use them as spirit medicine.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: superbob57]
#22205020 - 09/07/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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superbob57 said: here what I think, If you treat the substance with Respect and Understand what your getting into, and Yes set and setting are Everything, I've prayed for my journeys and meditated and fasted for days, so in a way that is blessing and respect to the substance....IMHO.......
Well yes, of course it is my friend. The only difference here is that in your case, all the spiritual power imparted into your drugs came from you. When you take your substances to a church and bless them in front of the Holy Spirit, which is present in most churches, at least Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches, then what transpires is that some of the Holy Spirit itself flows into your substances and make4s them more powerful.
Try and see for youself.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Peyote Road]
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superbob57 said: here what I think, If you treat the substance with Respect and Understand what your getting into, and Yes set and setting are Everything, I've prayed for my journeys and meditated and fasted for days, so in a way that is blessing and respect to the substance....IMHO.......
Well yes, of course it is my friend. The only difference here is that in your case, all the spiritual power imparted into your drugs came from you. When you take your substances to a church and bless them in front of the Holy Spirit, which is present in most churches, at least Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches, then what transpires is that some of the Holy Spirit itself flows into your substances and make4s them more powerful.
Try and see for youself.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: superbob57]
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I ask blessings from the mushroom god....the spirit of the substance. ...I envision Mayan temples and an enigmatic power beyond comprehension
.....But a Christian church?....I might as well b asking Satan himself
......that shit is a bunch of fooey!.....imho...
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Deviate]
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I am usually blessing my drugs to not get caught by the police, lol. Honestly, I heard a lot of stories when young people went to prison because of drugs, and it scares me. I am only using psychodelics like psilocybin mushrooms, but I have some friends that are using different substances. Unfortunately, on of them is in real trouble now. He got addicted to fentanyl, and when police came and gave him a test from www.confirmbiosciences.com, he was arrested. I haven't heard about him for 3 months already, and I am very sorry for that guy.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Deviate] 1
#26570564 - 04/01/20 07:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Deviate said: I recently started blessing my psychedelics before tripping but i was reading about Maria Sabina, the famous mexican mushroom lady and she said the mushrooms must be taken to a church and blessed before the Holy Spirit before they can be used. So last night I took the mushrooms to my church and blessed them before the Holy Spirit. It will be interesting to see if I get a better trip now.
you may be a religious deviate, but if you do care about something it is already blessed. to go through the motions of blessing is a demonstration to others that you care, or have been made to care...
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: redgreenvines]
#26571033 - 04/01/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I agree it's just a show for others. You can have all the positive thoughts in your own head without the need to manifest a non physical thing into our physical world.
It does seem to be religious at least from the op. Can some explain what spirituality is? It's been said that blessing your drugs makes them more powerful...
Spirituality to me is feeding the hungry, clothing the naked and caring for one another with love. Where do these unseen forces come in?
If anything you're just contributing positive thoughts to the expected experience. But calling upon mystical forces? Seems bizzare and it also seems like there's better ways to surrender oneself.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26571659 - 04/01/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't bless drugs or anything else. I'm pretty much atheist these days.
Not that I don't care for anything or anyone around me, I just rather show my intention by action rather than gesture. For example I make wonderful food and have great extraction results. There's no magic involved, it's just care, attention and patience.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Northerner]
#26572358 - 04/02/20 12:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I dunno people, could be something in this. Don’t get me wrong I am notmreligious, nor do I bless my drugs. But a while ago, 18 months or so now, I had an intense come up, and thus followed some online advice from Rosalind Watts; I spoke out loud to the mushroom gods, asking why they were scaring me and explaining out loud that I had come to them for help,,could they then help me.
I think the fact that I vocalised my intentions etc. was much more powerful than just thinking it.
So maybe blessing your drugs beforehand is just cementing your existing intentions, before you “lose your mind to the mushrooms”.....
Just putting it out there.......
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26572776 - 04/02/20 08:14 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I guess it may be seen as odd with modern religion. But if you look at any tribal ceremony there is lots of blessing going on.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
#26572826 - 04/02/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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That is the essence of religious theater. The most basic form of this is a drumming circle. Participation can be transcendent but the entertainment value is great too. with blessing, the drum is replaced by the drama, but the idea - to come together an be good - is the same.
That is reconnection. I believe this is essentially the meaning of religioun - religare - lat. to reconnect.
All in the mind to be sure - but nice to hear the beats, sometimes.
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#26573054 - 04/02/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I use psytrance for that.
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#26573094 - 04/02/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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that's a blessing in disguise!
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Northerner]
#26573118 - 04/02/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I listened to almost 2 hours of shamanic drumming last Friday in a trip where I didn’t trip....So getting fed up with it, put Hallucinogenic Lone Deranger album on; even that didn’t work.
But yeah. The trance beats usually do it for me too brother
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
#26573173 - 04/02/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think covid-19 has shown us all that the tribe is where we should be. Our bodies have not yet evolved in the 200,000 years since we were in caves, and democracy falls down when “the tribe’s population” increases beyond about 50. If we still lived in tribes, I don’t think this virus would have spread in the first place, but in a small tribe if affected, we would all look after each other. The shaman could heal us as was always the case, with help from the spirit real, while we all joined in as a tribe.
I was lucky as a child; thee were 6 of us, and yes we were rock bottom poor, but our family unit and especially Sunday tea, are magical memories for me.
I think the above is why so many people today are “depressed”. We were never designed for this environment or society.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26575351 - 04/03/20 02:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I bless my trip before I do mushrooms, using an invocation to the mushroom spirits/sacraments that I came up with years ago. Also I'll repeat it during the trip if things go off in the wrong direction. Always works.
Now this may just be a way of grounding the experience, or it may be connecting with higher realms, or it may be working on expectations, but regardless it never fails. It's a moment of focused meditation on what's about to occur, aligning everything.
It may not matter what sort of ritual is invoked, but I recommend it.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26575359 - 04/03/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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DO you keep your invocation the same? Is it a mantra? Or is the intention the same and you ad lib it each time?
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
#26575576 - 04/03/20 04:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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No, it's always the same. It's the intention that matters but the invocation directs the intention. Basis of ritual anyway.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26576693 - 04/04/20 05:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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if you are honest about your superstitiousness then you must act out your view of the magical cosmos in accord with your belief or it will bite your ass.
there are ways with less baggage, but honesty prevails, if you are afraid and deny it, the fear will getcha getcha.
as a worm I gend to slime my drugs first or burn them in a tube.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: redgreenvines]
#26576898 - 04/04/20 09:01 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I like to thank the cactus when I harvest cuttings. To me, its not about "drugs". I love the cactus plants. Their cuttings are very beneficial to me. Its a sign of respect to thank them.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Grey Fox]
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: redgreenvines]
#26577283 - 04/04/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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redgreenvines said: if you are honest about your superstitiousness then you must act out your view of the magical cosmos in accord with your belief or it will bite your ass.
there are ways with less baggage, but honesty prevails, if you are afraid and deny it, the fear will getcha getcha.
as a worm I gend to slime my drugs first or burn them in a tube.
I tried to see if this post made any real sense. It doesn't.
Superstition (AKA magical thinking) even if ingrained in somebody's world view has no real effect. Therefore ignoring it willfully or accidentally has no real effect either, although people with OCD will manifest very complicated belief patterns rationalizing such imaginary effects in spite of evidence to the contrary.
Tripping with those sorts of beliefs probably sucks immensely. I personally have no truck with a "magical cosmos", only one based on discoverable phyics. Imagining that because I choose to begin my trips with a mental focusing ritual indicates otherwise is mistaken.
But frankly it's come to be what I expect from you and that's just sad.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26577728 - 04/04/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Honestly no? I think they already know how scared I am and have to talk myself into tripping every time. Even if set and setting is prime, I still have these voices that try and talk me out of it - probably just the ego being scared of itself.
But, I've never tried praying to the mushrooms. I eat/drink them and hope for the best. They're going to do whatever they wanna do regardless of what you said and or have done.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
#26578045 - 04/04/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes, no. It's more about how you experience the trip not how some mythical mushroom spirit imposes its will on you in the trip.
If you try tripping multiple days, which I highly recommend, that fear really goes away entirely. You were just there yesterday, the memories of how incredible it was are still fresh, you already worked through any ego-shedding that was required, and you're just raring to go again. 
OTOH if you space them out and build them up in your mind, there's always this fear. It's not without basis - they really do bizarre things to your ordinary consciousness (as in tear it down completely) and unless you're already OK with that going in it always raises some fear.
But make that a known quantity and it all changes. That's why a ritual helps, it gets you in the right headspace to open up to the experience without the fear.
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Re: do you bless your drugs before you trip? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26578884 - 04/05/20 07:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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redgreenvines said: if you are honest about your superstitiousness then you must act out your view of the magical cosmos in accord with your belief or it will bite your ass.
there are ways with less baggage, but honesty prevails, if you are afraid and deny it, the fear will getcha getcha.
as a worm I gend to slime my drugs first or burn them in a tube.
I tried to see if this post made any real sense. It doesn't.
Superstition (AKA magical thinking) even if ingrained in somebody's world view has no real effect. Therefore ignoring it willfully or accidentally has no real effect either, although people with OCD will manifest very complicated belief patterns rationalizing such imaginary effects in spite of evidence to the contrary.
Tripping with those sorts of beliefs probably sucks immensely. I personally have no truck with a "magical cosmos", only one based on discoverable phyics. Imagining that because I choose to begin my trips with a mental focusing ritual indicates otherwise is mistaken.
But frankly it's come to be what I expect from you and that's just sad. 
granted I had a spelling mistake what does "gend" mean? I will try this: as a worm I tend to slime my drugs first or burn them in a tube
I hope that helps, I take refuge in my bilaterally symmetric evolutionary relatedness to a worm, and I do also find that my stream of consciousness is fairly similar to the worm body 'tomes' which are linked and dragged through it's universe in a tubular fashion.
also the worm is a humble creature capable of immense work in the soils. I admire these nutritious creatures even though I have not eaten one in this lifetime.
Mostly I am talking about lysergamides or cannabis and my mouth is a handy slimebucket.
anyway, if your life philosophy or way of living is not enough prep for your trip, what is lacking? if you adopt religious or shamanic practices - why? these questions deserve honest answers. the stoned mind has no patience for phonies and liars when it is adrift and wanting to trust something to be what it seems.
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