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I don't know guys but..
Theres a hardening in the debate towards illegal immigrants, with great hostility towards them shown and radical solutions only being a word away.
The bashing of African Americans in general hardens and gets more widespread, the miscommunications between the groups keep getting bigger and the frustration and aggression greater.
People get downright BASHED for their political affiliations, right up to common usage of words like "libtards".
I see holocaust denial and actual antisemitic remarks pop up amidst more moderate criticisms of the state of Israel, and also talk of "zionist conspiracies" which are from the underbelly of neonazism.
The utter bashing of religions and anyone in it, most particularly a frighteningly onesided and radical approach towards Islam, with people starting threads like "Everything wrong about Islam".
Homophobic, sexist and transphobic sentiments slipping through the cracks.
This worries me quite a bit, because I love this website and I'm seeing people getting increasingly antagonistic in all directions.
Why so hostile guys? Why so violent?
I expect that the subsequent discussion this OP evokes will get out of hand and turn into a shitstorm, but at least I got to say this much. I'm sure others feel this way too. Let's be our own moderators and actively work at restoring the peace here, not by moderating others but by being the change we want to see.
I'll tack on a poll because polls get a more honest response than posts - most people simply refuse to get shouted at and this skews the direction debate will take.
Let's see what comes of this.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante]
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This is nothing new. You're seeing a pattern because you want to. This level of "hate" towards immigrants has been going on for as long I can remember, I don't even mean here, I mean in my entire life.
As for the racist stuff, blame the media. THEY are the ones stirring the pot and are pushing us towards all out race war. Homophobic, refer back to immigration. Transphobia, maybe but I don't really see any more animosity than is usually present. Let's face it, the only reason you even brought that one up, was because of the latest drama with BS, and they brought that on themselves. Rose made a valid point, that they're gonna use whatever platform they have to push back against what they feel is oppression. But there are better ways to do it than BS handled things.
A large portion of the srhoomery is American, if not the majority. None of this stuff is new at all. It has been going on for decades and has not seen any upward spike. Like I said, you're just looking for patterns.
You don't live in America, you aren't here to see it on a daily basis and in person. I'm willing to be the ONLY thing you see on stuff that happens here of those subjects, is the shit the media pushes out for it's own agenda.
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blame the media
We should spend less time listening to the Media and more time participating in the Shroomery
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#22191556 - 09/05/15 06:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I detect an anti-extremist vibe on the shroomery.
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#22191559 - 09/05/15 06:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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There are a lot of smart people here with a lot of extreme ideas/beliefs which they feel very strongly about. I think it gets as extreme as it does a lot of the time because somebody is challenging somebody else's strong views with strong views of their own.
I don't really see the Pub getting any worse than it ever was. I'm not in it all the time though. On average it might spike a little here and there but then it dips back down.
I agree that we can and should have whatever opinions we want, that's a little thing called freedom, but a lot of the time it would be nice if everybody could just admit they were wrong if they are, either that or agree that some things, like politics for example, don't really have a right or wrong answer. Some people also have the strong views they do because of how much disinformation is out there, but it doesn't matter to them because they've already picked a side. We are bad at change it seems. Especially when we have to admit we were wrong in order to change.
I wish I didn't see so much hate spewed here, but honestly I think a lot of time people are just blowing off steam.
Also with a pretty high athiest population here, religion bashing is bound to happen. It shouldn't. I don't bash religion, it doesn't make me feel good to rip apart one of the core aspects that make up a person. I have a Christian friend and we talk all the time on the subject and get along just great because we respect each others belief or lack thereof.
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#22191560 - 09/05/15 06:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shit posting, baiting and flaming are practically the norm these days. Hell, even some mods do it... frequently. I think posting with the specific intent on getting a rise out of someone gives lot of people here an E-boner...
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I'm happy for that vibe.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Sun King] 1
#22191569 - 09/05/15 06:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I thought it was always like this. Fortunately, the board has an ignore function so I just go into threads where I know people are going to act a fool and put those who do on ignore. It's actually made the Shroomery a much more pleasant experience for me. Once those elements are removed, even controversial conversations can be productive and enlightening.
I wouldn't go so far as saying the board culture needs to change, there are steps one can take to limit contact with unsavory individuals.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante] 4
#22191573 - 09/05/15 07:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is there even supposed to be political discussion in the pub? Seems like the "political discussion" subforum would be a better spot for those types of posts.
I think the bigots are a very loud minority.
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I have noticed an uptick in what you would call "extremism" in the pub and elsewhere, it bothers me, but I don't think there's necessarily anything to be done about it.
I do think it's pretty stupid that flaming is disallowed in places like Political Discussion, but racism gets a pass.
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I feel that the pressure the media are putting on the American public in regard to the elections has a definite part in this. I think it will ease a bit after the elections.
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Asante said: I feel that the pressure the media are putting on the American public in regard to the elections has a definite part in this. I think it will ease a bit after the elections.
Not if we elect Trump lol, and you'll see nothing but misogyny from the right for 8 years if Hillary wins.
But you do have a point, income inequality is becoming a more mainstream political issue, and to mitigate that the media is throwing immigration in your faces 24 hours a day.
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Asante said: I feel that the pressure the media are putting on the American public in regard to the elections has a definite part in this. I think it will ease a bit after the elections.
Not if we elect Trump lol, and you'll see nothing but misogyny from the right for 8 years if Hillary wins.
But you do have a point, income inequality is becoming a more mainstream political issue, and to mitigate that the media is throwing immigration in your faces 24 hours a day.
I do sometimes ask myself "Why are they showing me this? Is this really the ONLY thing happening right now?" And then I check my non-US or non-corporate news sources and see that there is so much happening in our country we SHOULD be paying attention to but aren't.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: dionysiandame] 1
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Yep. The news is a horrible source of news.
A couple more generations and we will have made great strides in the racial and LGBT communities. This isn't meant in a mean way, but when the old timers who cling to the ideals they grew up with have been dead for a while, that kind of hate won't be instilled in nearly as many children.
In a couple of generations, we will be the old voters and, hopefully, we will not have our politics blinded by the news media as the majority of the populous currently does. Many in our generation (try to) get unbiased news from several sources. That's what we will teach our children, and that's what our children will teach their children. Don't blindly trust. Use your head. Question what you're told. Learn the facts.
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Perhaps people are somewhat sick of other people coming where they live and fucking it up, then getting told by liberals how it's natural and to accept it. There was a thread where a person moved into a posters neighborhood, asked him for help moving for weed, then fake arrested him, he wasn't a cop though. It was gross as fuck. I get that everyone can't own their neighborhood, but just because people come in doesn't mean you need to accept them or their shit just because of some fanciful notions of rights
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Trump has brought the very important topic of illegal immigrant into the forefront of American politics, R's and D's have been ignoring this issue for decades and most US citizens want a major change to the current policy, so of course it's being discussed in the Pub.
I don't see any homophobic vibes, maybe it's because everyone here is gay from the shrooms.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante] 1
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I don't get this sort of vibe at all (although I'm not in the pub much so moot point)
These extremist folks you're talking about happen to be the most vocal, to a point where they might be overshadowing the more relaxed posters.
I'm a live and let live kind of guy.
Elections are also coming up here in the states, that might be why some of us are really focusing on some issues the way we are
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Republicans have been ignoring the immigration issue for decades?
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I did see an increase in extremism in the pub lately.
I blame, the Jews, the blacks, the gay, women, old conservative, the libtard, ISIS, Islam, Chritisanity, white people, that starving african kid with flies around him and more importantly I blame YOU and your asian friends!
I am completely innocent of everything that has happened.
But trolling aside. It's election season. People get emotionally involved. It's normal. It's part of free speech and I admire that we can actually talk about issues instead of being forced to keep out opinion to ourselves. I'd rather see an extremist voice his opinions loudly with a huge sign around his body than having him sit in his room alone plotting something horrible. If they get out there to speak, that means they are open to discussion.
Suppressing people has only created factions and unrest throughout history. Voice your opinions people!
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nicechrisman said: Republicans have been ignoring the immigration issue for decades? 
What would you call maintaining a open border and not enforcing the laws currently on the books?
Remember House Majority leader Eric Cantor , nobody talks about it, but his district voted him out because of his pro-illegal immigration position.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Cantor
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nicechrisman said: Republicans have been ignoring the immigration issue for decades?
yes as a matter of fact, they're all for an amnesty because for some retarded reason they think pandering to illegals will win them votes from the latino community and as crazy as it sounds, that's the very same reason the democrats want to grant an amnesty to illegals
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yes as a matter of fact, they're all for an amnesty because for some retarded reason they think pandering to illegals will win them votes from the latino community and as crazy as it sounds, that's the very same reason the democrats want to grant an amnesty to illegals
Amnesty is the only sensible solution, you're not gonna round up 20 million people without seriously infringing on citizens' rights.
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yes as a matter of fact, they're all for an amnesty because for some retarded reason they think pandering to illegals will win them votes from the latino community and as crazy as it sounds, that's the very same reason the democrats want to grant an amnesty to illegals
Amnesty is the only sensible solution, you're not gonna round up 20 million people without seriously infringing on citizens' rights.
you arent even trying
now tell us, how is an amnesty a sensible solution
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Because then we can force those people to pay taxes.
Border security definitely needs to change to prevent this cycle from repeating, but amnesty (besides doing nothing) is about the only solution for illegals already here.
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yes as a matter of fact, they're all for an amnesty because for some retarded reason they think pandering to illegals will win them votes from the latino community and as crazy as it sounds, that's the very same reason the democrats want to grant an amnesty to illegals
Amnesty is the only sensible solution, you're not gonna round up 20 million people without seriously infringing on citizens' rights.
Change the current policies and there won't be much need to round up people, but I wouldn't take it off the table.
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The Ecstatic said: Because then we can force those people to pay taxes.
Border security definitely needs to change to prevent this cycle from repeating, but amnesty (besides doing nothing) is about the only solution for illegals already here.
Their tax contribution wouldn't justify their expenses and drag on wages, deportation is the only solution for illegals and their anchor babies already here.
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nicechrisman said: Republicans have been ignoring the immigration issue for decades?
yes as a matter of fact, they're all for an amnesty because for some retarded reason they think pandering to illegals will win them votes from the latino community and as crazy as it sounds, that's the very same reason the democrats want to grant an amnesty to illegals
Amnesty is the only sensible solution, you're not gonna round up 20 million people without seriously infringing on citizens' rights.
Change the current policies and there won't be much need to round up people, but I wouldn't take it off the table.
Yep, and it would take violating the civil liberties of anyone vaguely brown.
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Border security definitely needs to change to prevent this cycle from repeating, but amnesty (besides doing nothing) is about the only solution for illegals already here.
Their tax contribution wouldn't justify their expenses and drag on wages, deportation is the only solution for illegals and their anchor babies already here.
Yep, and what we're doing now is much less cost effective.
How are you gonna locate and deport 20,000,000 people without violating citizens' civil liberties?
How are you gonna deport anchor babies? Revoke birthright citizenship? Lol ok.
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Maybe its not that theres an extremist vibe but maybe all your opinions are jus so far from the norm everything jus seems exxtreme.
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yes as a matter of fact, they're all for an amnesty because for some retarded reason they think pandering to illegals will win them votes from the latino community and as crazy as it sounds, that's the very same reason the democrats want to grant an amnesty to illegals
Amnesty is the only sensible solution, you're not gonna round up 20 million people without seriously infringing on citizens' rights.
Change the current policies and there won't be much need to round up people, but I wouldn't take it off the table.
Yep, and it would take violating the civil liberties of anyone vaguely brown.
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The Ecstatic said: Because then we can force those people to pay taxes.
Border security definitely needs to change to prevent this cycle from repeating, but amnesty (besides doing nothing) is about the only solution for illegals already here.
Their tax contribution wouldn't justify their expenses and drag on wages, deportation is the only solution for illegals and their anchor babies already here.
Yep, and what we're doing now is much less cost effective.
How are you gonna locate and deport 20,000,000 people without violating citizens' civil liberties?
How are you gonna deport anchor babies? Revoke birthright citizenship? Lol ok.
No developed nation in the world allows anchor baby citizenship, the US shouldn't be the exception to the rule.
Those 20,000,000 are illegals, their "civil liberties" aren't US citizens main concern anymore, we just want them out. They can apply for legal US citizenship back in their homeland.
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As has been repeatedly pointed out to you... you don't.
Prevent them from receiving benefits. Prevent them from getting licenses. Prevent them from sending money out of the country. Prevent them from attending our schools. Prevent them from working. Send them home immediately if the are arrested for any reason, and their families with them. Turn them around at the border. Do not feed them or offer aid of any kind. Require e-verify and seize the businesses of those who hire them. No Federal payments to "sanctuary" cities and states.
They'll leave.
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How are you gonna deport anchor babies? Revoke birthright citizenship?
You don't have to. Deport the parents. Offer the parents the choice of: Take your kid with you. Give the kid up for foster care. Give the kid up for adoption.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: qman]
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I never said the illegals had civil liberties, I'm saying you can't round up 20 million people without violating ACTUAL citizens' civil liberties.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: dionysiandame]
#22191909 - 09/05/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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dionysiandame said: I thought it was always like this. Fortunately, the board has an ignore function so I just go into threads where I know people are going to act a fool and put those who do on ignore. It's actually made the Shroomery a much more pleasant experience for me. Once those elements are removed, even controversial conversations can be productive and enlightening.
I wouldn't go so far as saying the board culture needs to change, there are steps one can take to limit contact with unsavory individuals.
LOL!
I've never even replied to any one of your posts and I got put on ignore.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Mr. Material] 3
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Sometimes I put people on ignore if they're being obnoxious in a thread I'm following, then take them off when the thread dies. We're all entitled to express our opinions; doesn't mean anyone should be forced to read those opinions.
That's just me, though. I mostly just lurk these days anyway. If y'all want to get into maddening debates, that's your prerogative. My hope for everyone here is that we learn something from each other, and let hate and anger go because life's too short to allow ourselves to get bogged down in that bullshit.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: sun_spots]
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i haven't particularly noticed this, but i generally only keep tabs on some regular threads i post in through my posts list and only read a few new threads a day give or take.
but in the event this sort of issue is occurring or does occur i wouldn't agree with the community being overridden with hate.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante]
#22192194 - 09/05/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Humans are self important creature's blind to the concept that all life has value. The treatment and experiments on animals today is no different then what is described in the holocaust. We are walking contradictions. I don't mind to see it all burn away.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante] 1
#22192200 - 09/05/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I too have seen a darkness fall upon the Shroomery.
And it is concerning to say the least.
And disappointing to be honest.
Some users are just so set in their ways, there is no deviation at all.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
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Asante, dude...I love you man, you're a good egg.
With that said, the shroomery has changed SO much since the last time I was heavily involved on here back in 2003-2011. Back then it was really lovey dovey which was wonderful, so many positive vibes everywhere. I miss people like Coaster and thedudenj, I know Coaster was kinda crazy but he was a good dude, anyway shit is rather negative nowadays.
Seems like so many hipsters are here and they only care about what is current and "cool", and if you're not current then you're forsaken, outcast, it's really lame. Sure there are wonderful members still around, don't get me wrong, and the shroomery is an amazing place I love very much, but I hope the lames don't gain the upper hand.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Lucis]
#22192223 - 09/05/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So true, Shroomery has changed A LOT since the Coaster days.
At least we still have threads like this around: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22192042
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante] 2
#22192228 - 09/05/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Asante said:

I don't know guys but..
Theres a hardening in the debate towards illegal immigrants, with great hostility towards them shown and radical solutions only being a word away.
The bashing of African Americans in general hardens and gets more widespread, the miscommunications between the groups keep getting bigger and the frustration and aggression greater.
People get downright BASHED for their political affiliations, right up to common usage of words like "libtards".
I see holocaust denial and actual antisemitic remarks pop up amidst more moderate criticisms of the state of Israel, and also talk of "zionist conspiracies" which are from the underbelly of neonazism.
The utter bashing of religions and anyone in it, most particularly a frighteningly onesided and radical approach towards Islam, with people starting threads like "Everything wrong about Islam".
Homophobic, sexist and transphobic sentiments slipping through the cracks.
This worries me quite a bit, because I love this website and I'm seeing people getting increasingly antagonistic in all directions.
Why so hostile guys? Why so violent?
I expect that the subsequent discussion this OP evokes will get out of hand and turn into a shitstorm, but at least I got to say this much. I'm sure others feel this way too. Let's be our own moderators and actively work at restoring the peace here, not by moderating others but by being the change we want to see.
I'll tack on a poll because polls get a more honest response than posts - most people simply refuse to get shouted at and this skews the direction debate will take.
Let's see what comes of this.
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This is the fault of the administration and mods. I repeatedly lobbied you guys to move political threads from the Pub to the Political forum but you wouldn't fucking do it. The consequences have been a coarsening of the Pub and the virtual evisceration of the Politics forum. You are reaping what you have sown.
Who is violent? Look, we have laws about immigration. Follow them or fuck off. How's that shit working out in Europe, anyway?
By the way, you are one of the most extremist posters there is.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#22192240 - 09/05/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: I too have seen a darkness fall upon the Shroomery.
And it is concerning to say the least.
And disappointing to be honest.
Some users are just so set in their ways, there is no deviation at all.
This is exactly how I feel about liberals.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: vinsue] 1
#22192401 - 09/05/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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vinsue said: I think posting with the specific intent on getting a rise out of someone gives lot of people here an E-boner...
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante] 2
#22192648 - 09/05/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Asante, the reason you are picking up this vibe is because the world is currently in an extremely chaotic state, moreso now than in previous years. We are in a very dangerous period in history, whether people realize it or not.
The Shroomery is merely reflecting some of this very Dark Energy that is currently afflicting the entire planet.
Trust me, it's going to get a lot worse before it gets any better.
Humanity is at a truly critical point in it's existence.
We only have 2 options. either humanity will..
A) Maintain the cycle of death and destruction and war. WW3 will likely occur at somepoint in this timeline. Humanity will suffer for hundreds of years to come. The Dark Entities will feed off our suffering like vampires. The end result will be an NWO-type society where we are all controlled Big Brother style.
B) Finally break our chains and overthrow the dark forces keeping this planet in a state of chaos. We will give up our old ways of living for a more enlightened and less wasteful, more in-tune with nature type of society. Great technological advancement will take place, making Oil, Gas, Coal, and Nuclear Power obsolete. It will be a true Golden Age for humanity. This will be accompanied by a marked upwards shift in Global Consciousness, and Spiritual Evolution for All.
It's pretty much all up to us. We are all in for the fight of our lives. I do truly believe that the events of the next 10-20 years will decide humanity's future.
It is absolutely vital that we overthrow the "powers that be" and avoid the endless war scenario where the whole world suffers endlessly. It is time to bring about the lasting era of Peace & Love of which humanity is perfectly capable.
Good luck and Godspeed my friends. We all have our role to play. What will yours be?
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Good luck and Godspeed my friends. We all have our role to play. What will yours be?
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante]
#22192781 - 09/05/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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this thread is extreme
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Shroomopotamus]
#22192790 - 09/05/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Extremists tend that way.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22192809 - 09/05/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah for sure.
It's the internet though. Full of trolls and keyboard warriors, I take life in general with a big grain of salt, so needless to say I take this shit with a shot of penicillin.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: pirate-blues] 1
#22192899 - 09/05/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think it's good that extremists are getting riled up. It is an inevitable part of dying we'll get through these trying times and be better for it. There is also alot of good people, and places in the world that are seeing unprecedented social progress, as hard as that may be for some.
I think about like the 50s America where some would point to a more quaint and simple time, but there were alot of awful practices and hateful people back then too, but it would just be more likely to be swept under the rug. In order to solve our problems we must confront them, which is why I have more of a problem with people who are evasive and intentionally misleading with their language than people who just come out and say they have XYZ beliefs which seem extreme to me.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante] 1
#22192967 - 09/05/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Young people change their political views after real life experience shattered the fairy tale illusion that is liberalism.
Also the left is shoving tolerance of mentally ill trannies and domestic blm terrorists down the publics throat and its back firing.
Most folks dont want their cops murdered or men in dresses to use the bathroom with their young daughters in the name of being "progressive"
The traditional values of America are being undermined and people no longer want a part in it.
Your user base is just growing up, thats all.
And honestly its heart warming news to me. I left here for a long time because it was a liberal hugbox with unrealistic views on human behaviour. when did things start changing?
Oh and the anti-jew sentiment isn't completely unwarranted but i wont get started on that.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Apostle]
#22193016 - 09/05/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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We are EXTREEEEMMMEEE people!!!! bahhahahahahahhh!!!111!!1!
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#22193262 - 09/05/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Let the people SAY what they will, the majority usually leans out the extreme views.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22193266 - 09/05/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Because then we can force those people to pay taxes.
Border security definitely needs to change to prevent this cycle from repeating, but amnesty (besides doing nothing) is about the only solution for illegals already here.
we did the amnesty once before... did that work?
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: qman]
#22193283 - 09/05/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said:
Quote:
The Ecstatic said: Amnesty is the only sensible solution, you're not gonna round up 20 million people without seriously infringing on citizens' rights.
Change the current policies and there won't be much need to round up people, but I wouldn't take it off the table.
I agree, when they're caught they arent given amnesty, they arent jailed, they arent deported, they should just be made to no longer exist in this or any other reality
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante]
#22193308 - 09/05/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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We need to exert power to stay in power. We native americans are losing against the dog immigrants. They are stealing our way of life. They must be exterminated.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: sun_spots]
#22193385 - 09/05/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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sun_spots said: Sometimes I put people on ignore if they're being obnoxious in a thread I'm following, then take them off when the thread dies.
I rarely post! Look at my post count. It's funny dude.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Hobozen]
#22193527 - 09/05/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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blankk said: Relevant article
Jewish Billionaire George Soros Money Behind “FTP” and “Black Lives Matter” Agitation/Protests…
but what about the Koch brothers?
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Apostle] 1
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Also the left is shoving tolerance of mentally ill trannies and domestic blm terrorists down the publics throat and its back firing.
I think having some backlash from opponents is different from backfiring. Progress is ongoing, and the fact that a major point of right wing pride comes out of their ability to try and throw a stick in the wheels of change is more indicative of the fact that they have nothing to offer other than being a burden and causing problems for those who seek to work together towards common ends.
Even among the religious people I know the idea of tolerance is very popular. Trying to make that look like a bad thing is an uphill battle and you can't really appeal towards people's pride and sense of dignity towards that end, you've got to use lies and elicit unfounded fear to encourage people to be intolerant. The internet is great for that, but when it comes down to it I think the things strong people stand for come from a deeper place that isn't effected by propaganda and lies.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: moonrockmushy]
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I am as fiscally conservative as there. Ask Rose and Sophie and Macy who their most vocal champion here is.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante]
#22193790 - 09/05/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nope, it has always been like this, used to be wayy worse actually.
I have however noticed an increase in derogatory terms being used against other members, ever since the gates of hell opened up(aka otd) a lot of the bs over there and the shit posters have been leaking into the pub.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Apostle]
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Love_spirit said: Humans are self important creature's blind to the concept that all life has value. The treatment and experiments on animals today is no different then what is described in the holocaust. We are walking contradictions. I don't mind to see it all burn away.
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Apostle said: Young people change their political views after real life experience shattered the fairy tale illusion that is liberalism.
Also the left is shoving tolerance of mentally ill trannies and domestic blm terrorists down the publics throat and its back firing.
Most folks dont want their cops murdered or men in dresses to use the bathroom with their young daughters in the name of being "progressive"
The traditional values of America are being undermined and people no longer want a part in it.
Your user base is just growing up, thats all.
And honestly its heart warming news to me. I left here for a long time because it was a liberal hugbox with unrealistic views on human behaviour. when did things start changing?
Oh and the anti-jew sentiment isn't completely unwarranted but i wont get started on that.
My shattered liberalism doesnt make me care about weather whoever uses the bathroom, or hate jews. Those are reasons who many liberals think conservatives are morons
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: specialpeopleclub]
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specialpeopleclub said:
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Love_spirit said: Humans are self important creature's blind to the concept that all life has value. The treatment and experiments on animals today is no different then what is described in the holocaust. We are walking contradictions. I don't mind to see it all burn away.
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Apostle said: Young people change their political views after real life experience shattered the fairy tale illusion that is liberalism.
Also the left is shoving tolerance of mentally ill trannies and domestic blm terrorists down the publics throat and its back firing.
Most folks dont want their cops murdered or men in dresses to use the bathroom with their young daughters in the name of being "progressive"
The traditional values of America are being undermined and people no longer want a part in it.
Your user base is just growing up, thats all.
And honestly its heart warming news to me. I left here for a long time because it was a liberal hugbox with unrealistic views on human behaviour. when did things start changing?
Oh and the anti-jew sentiment isn't completely unwarranted but i wont get started on that.
My shattered liberalism doesnt make me care about weather whoever uses the bathroom, or hate jews. Those are reasons who many liberals think conservatives are morons
There are a lot more reasons for conservatives to think liberals are morons. For instance the repeated failure of their philosophy to provide general prosperity.
When I say conservative I do not mean the social conservatives. I speak only of the fiscal conservatives. I used to call myself a libertarian until that got corrupted by the arch isolationist idiot L. Ron Paul and his acolytes.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: zappaisgod]
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Perhaps you've heard of scandinavia?
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: nicechrisman]
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What about it? What's gonna happen when Norway runs out of North Sea oil wealth and they continue to get run over by welfare refugees? Liberalism begets bums.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: zappaisgod]
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Sounds like a lot of speculation.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante]
#22195939 - 09/06/15 07:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sun King said: I detect an anti-extremist vibe on the shroomery.
I'm happy for that vibe.
You said that people exercising free speech should expect to get killed by terrorists. That's pretty damn extreme.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22195951 - 09/06/15 07:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Asante said: I feel that the pressure the media are putting on the American public in regard to the elections has a definite part in this. I think it will ease a bit after the elections.
Not if we elect Trump lol, and you'll see nothing but misogyny from the right for 8 years if Hillary wins.
But you do have a point, income inequality is becoming a more mainstream political issue, and to mitigate that the media is throwing immigration in your faces 24 hours a day.
Any opposition to hillary would be misogyny? You're dumb, kid.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Webster10]
#22195961 - 09/06/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I didn't see where he said that
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: nicechrisman]
#22195964 - 09/06/15 07:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You didn't read hard enough
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Webster10]
#22195972 - 09/06/15 07:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Can you show me where it says that? I'm a pretty hard reader.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Webster10] 1
#22196026 - 09/06/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Webster10 said:
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Sun King said: I detect an anti-extremist vibe on the shroomery.
I'm happy for that vibe.
You said that people exercising free speech should expect to get killed by terrorists. That's pretty damn extreme.
Nononono.
What I said is that if you insult the extremist muslims continuously, and you get a Fatwa against you and a cop in front of your door and you still keep up the insults, that it would be logical to expect consequences.
Muslim extremists are doers, not debaters. They are armed and willing to engage perceived enemies.
Picture yourself standing in front of a Hells Angels chapter. You proceed to tell them that they are shit, their lifestyle is dishonorable, that Harley Davidson is for losers and that rock and roll sucks. What do you think what will happen in such a situation?
Hell, what do you think happens when you disrespect a soldier?
Or an astronaut:
Thats realism man.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22196064 - 09/06/15 08:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: What about it? What's gonna happen when Norway runs out of North Sea oil wealth and they continue to get run over by welfare refugees? Liberalism begets bums.
How quickly do you think a nation of 5 million people will dry up the largest sovereign wealth fund in world history?
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Webster10] 1
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Webster10 said:
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Asante said: I feel that the pressure the media are putting on the American public in regard to the elections has a definite part in this. I think it will ease a bit after the elections.
Not if we elect Trump lol, and you'll see nothing but misogyny from the right for 8 years if Hillary wins.
But you do have a point, income inequality is becoming a more mainstream political issue, and to mitigate that the media is throwing immigration in your faces 24 hours a day.
Any opposition to hillary would be misogyny? You're dumb, kid.
Your reading comprehension is about two ticks above Downs Syndrome.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22196105 - 09/06/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: What about it? What's gonna happen when Norway runs out of North Sea oil wealth and they continue to get run over by welfare refugees? Liberalism begets bums.
How quickly do you think a nation of 5 million people will dry up the largest sovereign wealth fund in world history?
Depends how many welfare bums they have.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22196110 - 09/06/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: What about it? What's gonna happen when Norway runs out of North Sea oil wealth and they continue to get run over by welfare refugees? Liberalism begets bums.
How quickly do you think a nation of 5 million people will dry up the largest sovereign wealth fund in world history?
i'm sure you can calculate this if you have the total of the fund. it would have to be many trillion to last long at all i'd estimate.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22196186 - 09/06/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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zappaisgod said: What about it? What's gonna happen when Norway runs out of North Sea oil wealth and they continue to get run over by welfare refugees? Liberalism begets bums.
How quickly do you think a nation of 5 million people will dry up the largest sovereign wealth fund in world history?
Depends how many welfare bums they have.
Assuming 100% of them were, and assuming the fund isn't added to with anything other than compound interest ever again, the fund is so large it might not even eat into the principal. The fund hovers around $900 billion US, even if that was in a savings account thats $18 billion coming in just from interest.
In other words: never.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22196194 - 09/06/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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where do you get even nearly 20% in interest in a savings account??
if i could make that in interest i could have retired years ago from what i've earned.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22196214 - 09/06/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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zappaisgod said: What about it? What's gonna happen when Norway runs out of North Sea oil wealth and they continue to get run over by welfare refugees? Liberalism begets bums.
How quickly do you think a nation of 5 million people will dry up the largest sovereign wealth fund in world history?
Depends how many welfare bums they have.
Assuming 100% of them were, and assuming the fund isn't added to with anything other than compound interest ever again, the fund is so large it might not even eat into the principal. The fund hovers around $900 billion US, even if that was in a savings account thats $18 billion coming in just from interest.
In other words: never.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: SurReality]
#22197282 - 09/06/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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SurReality said: where do you get even nearly 20% in interest in a savings account??
if i could make that in interest i could have retired years ago from what i've earned.
2 percent, shit I must've carried an extra zero lol.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante] 1
#22197355 - 09/06/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's funny...
Every five years or so, there is always a topic how "the pub has changed" that sparks big discussion. I think I may have been responsible for even starting one once. lol 
it does feel different to me and more hostile, but it's just a sign of the times. It's the clash of a couple different generations. The western world is volatile, fucked and a large majority of the tweendults are lost, angry and have been raised on social media, video games, bad food and lousy parenting 
We all are changing with the times. I was a lot more "shroomy" back in the day too. Times are a changing I suppose.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Masked]
#22197382 - 09/06/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I could use bread and clothes to be honest.
Fucking self righteous assholes
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Masked] 2
#22197416 - 09/06/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Like a few others have pointed out -- it's not just the pub. Obviously. It's everywhere. Or so it seems, anyway. Especially in the states.
Growing up, I mean maybe I just wasn't paying attention, but it didn't seem anywhere near as divided. And if it was, it stayed behind closed doors for the most part. The animosity & the vitriol is at an all-time high in my lifetime as far as I can tell. Politically, there's real venom and hatred there. They're not just debating. It's personal. Hell we have "news" networks who are supposed to be dignified and respected -- but instead it's like watching 5 year olds call each other names and throw things at one another (MSNBC, Fox News, CNN, etc.). They've lowered themselves to such pathetic depths that it's surreal just watching it. And to top it off we're on the verge of an all out race war.
The pub these days is only reflecting what's going on elsewhere. Go to just about any forum and they're having the same, heated discussions. For example, I frequent a boxing message board (I'm a fan of boxing). It's a damn boxing forum for fuck's sake, lol. Yet I'll be damned if it doesn't mirror half the discussions we have here at the pub when it comes to politics & race. You could literally switch those threads out with these, and insert pub names and it would look EXACTLY the same.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Masked]
#22197449 - 09/06/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Masked said: It's funny...
Every five years or so, there is always a topic how "the pub has changed" that sparks big discussion. I think I may have been responsible for even starting one once. lol 
it does feel different to me and more hostile, but it's just a sign of the times. (
when you say a sign of the times are you referring to the disappearance of ripple and his iron fist?
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Masked]
#22197454 - 09/06/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You want a extreme vibe?!!?! Rick and Morty, tonight at 11:30 pm cartoon network mother fuckerS!!!!!! Hell yea!!! wooooooooot wooooott!!!!
Here is a live stream -
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22197457 - 09/06/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Masked said: It's funny...
Every five years or so, there is always a topic how "the pub has changed" that sparks big discussion. I think I may have been responsible for even starting one once. lol 
it does feel different to me and more hostile, but it's just a sign of the times. (
when you say a sign of the times are you referring to the disappearance of ripple and his iron fist?

good ol ripple 
you are the iron fist lol
You would be missed just as much by me you ol bastard
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Masked]
#22197461 - 09/06/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Masked said:
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Masked said: It's funny...
Every five years or so, there is always a topic how "the pub has changed" that sparks big discussion. I think I may have been responsible for even starting one once. lol 
it does feel different to me and more hostile, but it's just a sign of the times. (
when you say a sign of the times are you referring to the disappearance of ripple and his iron fist?

good ol ripple 
You would be missed just as much by me you ol bastard 
yeah but I dont ban people simply for posting or because they disagree with someone else, that's why the pub was nothing more than phish, GD, mars volta and flaming lips back in the day
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22197463 - 09/06/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah, there was some crazy deletes and bans back in the day
so you contend the moderation is what has changed?
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22197469 - 09/06/15 02:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said:
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zappaisgod said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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zappaisgod said: What about it? What's gonna happen when Norway runs out of North Sea oil wealth and they continue to get run over by welfare refugees? Liberalism begets bums.
How quickly do you think a nation of 5 million people will dry up the largest sovereign wealth fund in world history?
Depends how many welfare bums they have.
Assuming 100% of them were, and assuming the fund isn't added to with anything other than compound interest ever again, the fund is so large it might not even eat into the principal. The fund hovers around $900 billion US, even if that was in a savings account thats $18 billion coming in just from interest.
In other words: never.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Masked]
#22197474 - 09/06/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Masked said: yeah, there was some crazy deletes and bans back in the day
so you contend the moderation is what has changed?
yes, the moderation has changed and it allows for more open discussion, often times on touchy issues such as immigration, you also have changes in individuals such as Asante in which he's gone from moderate to extreme in his views on some things such as if anything derogatory is said about anyone other than whites it's purely racism
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22197479 - 09/06/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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hhahahaha with in regards to banning, one statement stands out in my mind "Bans for pleasure".
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22197480 - 09/06/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So more lenient modding, or more (fair) modding, and an explosion of a large user base, is what makes the pub what it is today?
if so, that's a fair assessment.
The pub was slow paced and consisted of a handful of members like you mentioned. After the explosion of users, that's why the veteran's lounge was originally created after all. Some people didn't like the "pace" of the pub.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22197484 - 09/06/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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He has actually moderated his nonsense on me regarding that and taken a fair amount of shit from me without retaliating like a thug like he used to.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22197507 - 09/06/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: He has actually moderated his nonsense on me regarding that and taken a fair amount of shit from me without retaliating like a thug like he used to.
I didnt say he acted on his extremist views, this thread is a testament to his views, as an extremist, he sees extremism
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22197524 - 09/06/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think I know what Asante means though. Before it got shut down, I saw some really extreme anus posts in the romper room. Anal extremism was/is rampant in some forums.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Burke Dennings] 1
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Burke Dennings said: I think I know what Asante means though. Before it got shut down, I saw some really extreme anus posts in the romper room. Anal extremism was/is rampant in some forums.
you mean like?
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante] 1
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I don't know guys but..
Theres a hardening in the debate towards illegal immigrants, with great hostility towards them shown and radical solutions only being a word away.
The bashing of African Americans in general hardens and gets more widespread, the miscommunications between the groups keep getting bigger and the frustration and aggression greater.
People get downright BASHED for their political affiliations, right up to common usage of words like "libtards".
I see holocaust denial and actual antisemitic remarks pop up amidst more moderate criticisms of the state of Israel, and also talk of "zionist conspiracies" which are from the underbelly of neonazism.
The utter bashing of religions and anyone in it, most particularly a frighteningly onesided and radical approach towards Islam, with people starting threads like "Everything wrong about Islam".
Homophobic, sexist and transphobic sentiments slipping through the cracks.
This worries me quite a bit, because I love this website and I'm seeing people getting increasingly antagonistic in all directions.
Why so hostile guys? Why so violent?
I expect that the subsequent discussion this OP evokes will get out of hand and turn into a shitstorm, but at least I got to say this much. I'm sure others feel this way too. Let's be our own moderators and actively work at restoring the peace here, not by moderating others but by being the change we want to see.
I'll tack on a poll because polls get a more honest response than posts - most people simply refuse to get shouted at and this skews the direction debate will take.
Let's see what comes of this.
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Just ban all these fucking trolls. That'll solve the whole problem. Years ago the pub wasn't ever this bad then all of a sudden rules aren't being enforced anymore and people are wrecking the forum. Pub and other parts of the site are just as bad as OTD now almost except you can't use the n word.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Masked]
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Masked said: It's funny...
Every five years or so, there is always a topic how "the pub has changed" that sparks big discussion. I think I may have been responsible for even starting one once. lol 
it does feel different to me and more hostile, but it's just a sign of the times. It's the clash of a couple different generations. The western world is volatile, fucked and a large majority of the tweendults are lost, angry and have been raised on social media, video games, bad food and lousy parenting 
We all are changing with the times. I was a lot more "shroomy" back in the day too. Times are a changing I suppose.
I miss having access to the veteran's lounge 
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante]
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I don't have any idea if there actually has been any increase in conservative wack-jobs, but there certainly are a lot of em
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: JustForToday] 1
#22198068 - 09/06/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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JustForToday said: Just ban all these fucking trolls.
what trolls?
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Years ago the pub wasn't ever this bad
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Ezuma]
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Ezuma said: I don't have any idea if there actually has been any increase in conservative wack-jobs, but there certainly are a lot of em
I have no horse in the race, as I'm not really political either way. I guess if anything I'd consider myself more of a libertarian.
But from what I can see, from an unbiased vantage point, there are just as many liberal whack jobs as there are republican whack jobs.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Niffla]
#22198094 - 09/06/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That is probably true. I suppose this site simply attracts wack jobs, regardless of ideology
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Ezuma]
#22198112 - 09/06/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Speak for yourself, whackjob
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22198133 - 09/06/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just did
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Ezuma]
#22198139 - 09/06/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Then you should have used the singular.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22198158 - 09/06/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is a good point.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Ezuma]
#22198357 - 09/06/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lol I would agree this place attacks whack jobs
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Niffla]
#22198373 - 09/06/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Niffla said:
The pub these days is only reflecting what's going on elsewhere. Go to just about any forum and they're having the same, heated discussions. For example, I frequent a boxing message board (I'm a fan of boxing). It's a damn boxing forum for fuck's sake, lol. Yet I'll be damned if it doesn't mirror half the discussions we have here at the pub when it comes to politics & race. You could literally switch those threads out with these, and insert pub names and it would look EXACTLY the same.
Most peeps who are into politics are pretty dense, it's a shame the shroomery of all places has to be like this aswell.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: zZZz] 2
#22198394 - 09/06/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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People who are interested in policy are the dense ones? I don't think so. People who aren't are oblivious.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22198441 - 09/06/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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SHit is primitive yo
It's fucken childish
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: zZZz]
#22198559 - 09/06/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: zZZz]
#22198659 - 09/06/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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lol zzzzz your trollin
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: SurReality]
#22199211 - 09/06/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wish I was..
@zig They're are almost impossible to ignore.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante]
#22199746 - 09/06/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think it comes in waves. it seems most people despite what they may say are influenced by the media. There is another website that I used to frequent but unfortunately it became overrun with this exact type of intolerance. I had to leave that place. I'm no shroomery veteran, but I hope it doesn't come to that. Good thing is there are many subforums that are full of tolerant, compassionate people.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante]
#22199978 - 09/06/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Too long, didnt read..
There's too many pigs for the tits..period. We've overpopulated this bitch. That will cause a shitstorm right there. No homes, no food, no rest, no peace..
Plus this pc bullshit.. it sounds good on paper to say, "everyone is free to make their own choices", "everyone has to accept (bow down to) their neighbors (the consequences) its the epitomy of Cartman dressing up like a bitch and saying "whateva, I do what I want..". There is going to be a clash.
Add in you white bitches monetary system, to where if you work enough people to have enough paper, you dont have to answer for shit. People dont vote, money votes.. Ive never had to listen to shit, if I had the cash.. know when I get told?..when Im broke... people tell me everything, when Im broke.. and Im always wrong..
Nature used to fund... now you serve people who rape nature, and make their own little pass cards with their own little faces and their own little quotes on them, and you scramble like.."idiots in a money machine".. that's not how nature works.. your little man made trinkets. Scramble..
And now you have a mix of people who should probably never been put in the same room... there's gonna be a problem.
Everything living suffers under this "program".. except the few who dictate what you do. Add in there's a lot of people who just arent smart, and that anger spirals out there in a lot of not smart perverted ways, and just causes more anger..
You asked for it, you got it. Go live in that nature... not visit it... live in it and see how far that shooting MXE up your ass philosophy gets you.. most of these people growing up look at inside as the default place, and outside as...outside.
We're all just random consequences.. your real enemy is your structure.. you piss in natures face every day of your life, to serve man, and the few select's ideals.. and youre shocked, at the consequences you see.,
Take a heaping helping of what you have now because its only getting worse..
Lets see if I catch a ban for speaking the truth.. check it out.
The white man in America, should have never genocided the natives, should have worked with them. Should have never brought the africans over. Should have never worked on a mass profit scale. Should have never worked by the principles they set up. Capitalism..free trade.. all for profit.. means this man has it, rips off his fellow man a little, he rips off the next, he rips off the next and so on. Its a spiral to the ground based off the one principal of push your neighbor into the ground for there are not enough seats at the table..
Thats going to cause problems.. now your nature is dieing, your children are fighting, and nobody is satisfied or happy.. except ignorant motherfuckers.
It was prophesied the day the first cracker stepped foot on what is now North America And you can see it all over the world. People are idiots and arent hesitant for a second to cut their neighbors throat for just a bitty piece of the profit. Say what you will but masses of people have died in spirit, slumber, and now we have more of them than ever.
And now its just a push towards dead morals.. people dont deny God now, they curse God.. just as was prophesied. Its all written man.. the trick is to stop hearing what you want to hear, and pay attention to Truth.. Truth that may just as a matter of fact, not be in line with what you want to hear.... "I'm tired of dieing for your fucking sins.."
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Sun King]
#22200482 - 09/07/15 02:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sun King said: I detect an anti-extremist vibe on the shroomery.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Cowb0yNeal00] 1
#22200515 - 09/07/15 03:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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can't agree more asante.
why we have over-40, bachelor, phoney losers as mods is beyond me.
you dont have any place here.
you're incessant and desperate cries for attention are depressing.
you may not have anything else happening in your life, but don't you realize you're neither welcome, nor part of this community?
the incessant neocon circle jerk between two such individuals and their cheerleaders is a detriment to this entire community.
yes the culture has changed. it is up to the administration to guide the site.
this is a common issue for forums and it is up to the owner to provide a vision.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante]
#22200563 - 09/07/15 03:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't know if barbarian type posters have increased since I don't spend alot of time reading the Pub, but, I did wonder why mods aren't stepping in to stop the abuse since it is an obvious violation of the Pub rules.
I'm sure these flamers are preventing moderate people from posting.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: endogenous]
#22200618 - 09/07/15 04:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've been getting a vibe from a lot of the Pub lately. It can be entertaining sometimes but damn annoying at others.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Magicman69]
#22201270 - 09/07/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Magicman69 said: I've been getting a vibe from a lot of the Pub lately. It can be entertaining sometimes but damn annoying at others.
it's always been like that, I think we just slid down the scale towards annoying.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22201291 - 09/07/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's everywhere, Asante. Not just the shroomery.
I guess the genie is out of the bottle, or maybe somebody released the devil again:
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: D.M.T]
#22201309 - 09/07/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: Poll sucks. There's no option for "No" 
So you don't see anything Asante described in the pub?
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: D.M.T]
#22201310 - 09/07/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Who here considers themselves as whackjobs?
I do.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Turtletotem]
#22201319 - 09/07/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said:
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D.M.T said: Poll sucks. There's no option for "No" 
So you don't see anything Asante described in the pub?
Even YouTube is more hardcore than this shit, although I re-read the poll and it kind of describes a 'no' option. It just isn't very greatly worded.
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: D.M.T]
#22201326 - 09/07/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Who here considers themselves as whackjobs?
I do.
I prefer the term "crazy person"
If you want to be PC about it, I guess we can call it something like "low sanity" or "realiticly challenged", or maybe "permanently befuddled".
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Turtletotem said:
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D.M.T said: Poll sucks. There's no option for "No" 
So you don't see anything Asante described in the pub?
YouTube is more hardcore than this shit, although I re-read the poll and it kind of describes a 'no' option. It just isn't very greatly worded.
Oh yeah, youtube is a cancer mate. Every comment section nowadays... racial hatred, against all races. That is why I got an app that changes the youtube comment section into unintelligible gibberish. It's called the "Arabic translator app".
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Patlal] 1
#22202047 - 09/07/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Who here considers themselves as whackjobs?
I do.
I consider yourself as a whackjob too, small world
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22202060 - 09/07/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Patlal said: Who here considers themselves as whackjobs?
I do.
I consider yourself as a whackjob too, small world
Lmao
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22202061 - 09/07/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Patlal said: Who here considers themselves as whackjobs?
I do.
I consider yourself as a whackjob too, small world
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