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OfflineBeanhead
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Masked]
    #22197382 - 09/06/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I could use bread and clothes to be honest.

Fucking self righteous assholes


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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Masked] * 2
    #22197416 - 09/06/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Like a few others have pointed out -- it's not just the pub. Obviously. It's everywhere. Or so it seems, anyway. Especially in the states.

Growing up, I mean maybe I just wasn't paying attention, but it didn't seem anywhere near as divided. And if it was, it stayed behind closed doors for the most part. The animosity & the vitriol is at an all-time high in my lifetime as far as I can tell. Politically, there's real venom and hatred there. They're not just debating. It's personal. Hell we have "news" networks who are supposed to be dignified and respected -- but instead it's like watching 5 year olds call each other names and throw things at one another (MSNBC, Fox News, CNN, etc.). They've lowered themselves to such pathetic depths that it's surreal just watching it. And to top it off we're on the verge of an all out race war.

The pub these days is only reflecting what's going on elsewhere. Go to just about any forum and they're having the same, heated discussions. For example, I frequent a boxing message board (I'm a fan of boxing). It's a damn boxing forum for fuck's sake, lol. Yet I'll be damned if it doesn't mirror half the discussions we have here at the pub when it comes to politics & race. You could literally switch those threads out with these, and insert pub names and it would look EXACTLY the same.


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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Masked]
    #22197449 - 09/06/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Masked said:
It's funny...

Every five years or so, there is always a topic how "the pub has changed" that sparks big discussion.  I think I may have been responsible for even starting one once. lol :smirk:


it does feel different to me and more hostile, but it's just a sign of the times. (





when you say a sign of the times are you referring to the disappearance of ripple and his iron fist?


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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Masked]
    #22197454 - 09/06/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You want a extreme vibe?!!?! Rick and Morty, tonight at 11:30 pm cartoon network mother fuckerS!!!!!! Hell yea!!! wooooooooot wooooott!!!!

Here is a live stream -

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Make sure you have adblock plus and no script enabled.


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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22197457 - 09/06/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Masked said:
It's funny...

Every five years or so, there is always a topic how "the pub has changed" that sparks big discussion.  I think I may have been responsible for even starting one once. lol :smirk:


it does feel different to me and more hostile, but it's just a sign of the times. (





when you say a sign of the times are you referring to the disappearance of ripple and his iron fist?




:lol:


good ol ripple :frown:

you are the iron fist lol

You would be missed just as much by me you ol bastard :grin:


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InvisiblePrisoner#1
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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Masked]
    #22197461 - 09/06/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Masked said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Masked said:
It's funny...

Every five years or so, there is always a topic how "the pub has changed" that sparks big discussion.  I think I may have been responsible for even starting one once. lol :smirk:


it does feel different to me and more hostile, but it's just a sign of the times. (





when you say a sign of the times are you referring to the disappearance of ripple and his iron fist?




:lol:


good ol ripple :frown:


You would be missed just as much by me you ol bastard :grin:





yeah but I dont ban people simply for posting or because they disagree with
someone else, that's why the pub was nothing more than phish, GD, mars volta
and flaming lips back in the day


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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22197463 - 09/06/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, there was some crazy deletes and bans back in the day

so you contend the moderation is what has changed?


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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22197469 - 09/06/15 02:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
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zappaisgod said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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zappaisgod said:
What about it?  What's gonna happen when Norway runs out of North Sea oil wealth and they continue to get run over by welfare refugees?  Liberalism begets bums.




How quickly do you think a nation of 5 million people will dry up the largest sovereign wealth fund in world history?




Depends how many welfare bums they have.




Assuming 100% of them were, and assuming the fund isn't added to with anything other than compound interest ever again, the fund is so large it might not even eat into the principal. The fund hovers around $900 billion US, even if that was in a savings account thats $18 billion coming in just from interest.

In other words: never.



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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Masked]
    #22197474 - 09/06/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Masked said:
yeah, there was some crazy deletes and bans back in the day

so you contend the moderation is what has changed?





yes, the moderation has changed and it allows for more open discussion, often times
on touchy issues such as immigration, you also have changes in individuals such as
Asante in which he's gone from moderate to extreme in his views on some things such
as if anything derogatory is said about anyone other than whites it's purely racism


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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22197479 - 09/06/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

hhahahaha with in regards to banning, one statement stands out in my mind "Bans for pleasure". :lol:


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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22197480 - 09/06/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So more lenient modding, or more (fair) modding, and an explosion of a large user base, is what makes the pub what it is today?

if so, that's a fair assessment.

The pub was slow paced and consisted of a handful of members like you mentioned.  After the explosion of users, that's why the veteran's lounge was originally created after all.  Some people didn't like the "pace" of the pub.


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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22197484 - 09/06/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

He has actually moderated his nonsense on me regarding that and taken a fair amount of shit from me without retaliating like a thug like he used to.


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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22197507 - 09/06/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
He has actually moderated his nonsense on me regarding that and taken a fair amount of shit from me without retaliating like a thug like he used to.





I didnt say he acted on his extremist views, this thread is a testament to his
views, as an extremist, he sees extremism


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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22197524 - 09/06/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think I know what Asante means though.  Before it got shut down, I saw some really extreme anus posts in the romper room.  Anal extremism was/is rampant in some forums.


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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Burke Dennings] * 1
    #22197665 - 09/06/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Burke Dennings said:
I think I know what Asante means though.  Before it got shut down, I saw some really extreme anus posts in the romper room.  Anal extremism was/is rampant in some forums.





you mean like?



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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #22197678 - 09/06/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Asante said:



:uhoh:


I don't know guys but..

Theres a hardening in the debate towards illegal immigrants, with great hostility towards them shown and radical solutions only being a word away.

The bashing of African Americans in general hardens and gets more widespread, the miscommunications between the groups keep getting bigger and the frustration and aggression greater.

People get downright BASHED for their political affiliations, right up to common usage of words like "libtards".

I see holocaust denial and actual antisemitic remarks pop up amidst more moderate criticisms of the state of Israel, and also talk of "zionist conspiracies" which are from the underbelly of neonazism.

The utter bashing of religions and anyone in it, most particularly a frighteningly onesided and radical approach towards Islam, with people starting threads like "Everything wrong about Islam".

Homophobic, sexist and transphobic sentiments slipping through the cracks.

This worries me quite a bit, because I love this website and I'm seeing people getting increasingly antagonistic in all directions.

Why so hostile guys? Why so violent?

I expect that the subsequent discussion this OP evokes will get out of hand and turn into a shitstorm, but at least I got to say this much. I'm sure others feel this way too. Let's be our own moderators and actively work at restoring the peace here, not by moderating others but by being the change we want to see.

I'll tack on a poll because polls get a more honest response than posts - most people simply refuse to get shouted at and this skews the direction debate will take.

Let's see what comes of this.

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Just ban all these fucking trolls. That'll solve the whole problem. Years ago the pub wasn't ever this bad then all of a sudden rules aren't being enforced anymore and people are wrecking the forum. Pub and other parts of the site are just as bad as OTD now almost except you can't use the n word.


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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Masked]
    #22197711 - 09/06/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Masked said:
It's funny...

Every five years or so, there is always a topic how "the pub has changed" that sparks big discussion.  I think I may have been responsible for even starting one once. lol :smirk:


it does feel different to me and more hostile, but it's just a sign of the times.  It's the clash of a couple different generations.  The western world is volatile, fucked and a large majority of the tweendults are lost, angry and have been raised on social media, video games, bad food and lousy parenting :shrug:

We all are changing with the times.  I was a lot more "shroomy" back in the day too.  Times are a changing I suppose.

I miss having access to the veteran's lounge :frown:




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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Asante]
    #22198029 - 09/06/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't have any idea if there actually has been any increase in conservative wack-jobs, but there certainly are a lot of em


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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: JustForToday] * 1
    #22198068 - 09/06/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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JustForToday said:
Just ban all these fucking trolls.





what trolls?

Quote:

Years ago the pub wasn't ever this bad




how would you know? you've only been here a year


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Re: I'm picking up a weird extremist vibe in the Pub and elsewhere on the Shroomery lately. [Re: Ezuma]
    #22198075 - 09/06/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Ezuma said:
I don't have any idea if there actually has been any increase in conservative wack-jobs, but there certainly are a lot of em




I have no horse in the race, as I'm not really political either way. I guess if anything I'd consider myself more of a libertarian. 

But from what I can see, from an unbiased vantage point, there are just as many liberal whack jobs as there are republican whack jobs.


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