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Re: Who wants to know a shortcut to extracting cacti? [Re: impatientguy]
#22219202 - 09/10/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is extracting it basically the same process? Like you put the cactus flesh in an acidic solution then basify it and extract off the top with naphtha, freeze and precipitate?
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Re: Who wants to know a shortcut to extracting cacti? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#22219527 - 09/11/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You use xylene Instead of naptha but yeah that's basically it
I only acidify the water first when I'm extracting to help pull alkaloids no need to do it for you A/B extract.
If you do it with the raw cactus you won't get clean crystals It will be oily.
It will still work but you won't be able to get a proper dose wieghed out because it's adulterated with wax n stuff.
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Re: Who wants to know a shortcut to extracting cacti? [Re: impatientguy]
#22246886 - 09/16/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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"but the wax stays intact and you can pretty much wring it out, its wierd"
I'm confused. Once you have wrung out the juice, you say you go ahead and process the tissue. Doesn't that include the wax? How do you de-wax the tissue once it is blended up? Sorry if I am misunderstanding your process.
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Re: Who wants to know a shortcut to extracting cacti? [Re: lostinthecloud]
#22247207 - 09/16/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The wax is solid and you filter it all so no chunks should get through You can
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Re: Who wants to know a shortcut to extracting cacti? [Re: impatientguy]
#22271020 - 09/21/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hi Impatientguy
I really appreciate this thread and all the advice.
I'm currently removing the spines from about 12-13 feet of san pedro cuttings that are about 3-4 inches thick each. I'm pretty excited. The cactus comes from two different sources. One (about 1/3) I have consumed cuttings from before and know is pretty potent, it has longer spines. The other (about 2/3) is a little bit fatter, darker green, has smaller spines, and seems to grow faster. I have not consumed it yet but I'm kind of expecting it to be less potent than the first one. Anyway I think I'm going to use your freezer method on all of it and then use the juice to do an extraction. While I'd like to only work with the cactus that I know is potent, I feel if I'm going to go through with the process, I might as well make as much as I can, because it's still not going to be much. Would you recommend extracting it all as one big batch or doing them separately? And also, would you recommend using the whole cactus, removing the core, just using the skins? I've always used whole cactus and want to make sure I don't waste anything, but does this mean more wax and impurities?
I'm wondering if you or anyone can point me in the direction of a simple step-by-step tek for extracting mescaline crystals from the frozen cactus juice. I know there are a lot out there, and I have researched this (not in depth obviously) for a long time, but I just want to know what the current tried-and-true tek is that you would recommend, if there is one. Most of the extraction teks I've read are for dealing with dry cactus. I just want to make sure I don't screw this up. While I've been wanting to do this for a long time, I am really not chemistry-savvy and this will be my first A/B extraction.
Just curious also if you have any kind of rough guestimate, a range, of how much mescaline one could extract from 12" of san pedro that is about 3.5" thick and of decent potency? I know that's an impossible question to answer but I'm just interested to hear others' opinions.
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Re: Who wants to know a shortcut to extracting cacti? [Re: drr]
#22295986 - 09/26/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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3 step easy citrate is the tek you want. I use vinegar for the acid.
Use the whole cacti just filter well.
Make ABSOLUTELY SURE that no lye water gets into the naptha while sucking the naptha off the top of the cactus lye soup. Better you leave some naptha in the jar for the next pull than get some lye in you end product.
Also don't do this if you only have a single 12 inch cutting you need like 10 pounds wet at least IMO to make this worth your time.
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Re: Who wants to know a shortcut to extracting cacti? [Re: impatientguy]
#22296260 - 09/26/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is just what I was looking for! I've got a cutting I've been planning on consuming, but was intimidated by the tea!
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Nice glad I could help If you plan on doing an AB extraction you gotta have a decent amount to make it worth it IMO
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Re: Who wants to know a shortcut to extracting cacti? [Re: impatientguy]
#22296899 - 09/27/15 02:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was just gonna do the freezing, wringing, blending and cooking down.
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Nice that should be perfect then
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Re: Who wants to know a shortcut to extracting cacti? [Re: impatientguy]
#22451756 - 10/29/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bump
Just in case anyone hasn't seen it yet.
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Re: Who wants to know a shortcut to extracting cacti? [Re: impatientguy]
#22451982 - 10/30/15 01:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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What kind of blender are you guys using? I'm going to buy a vitamix soon. It supposedly breaks everything down to the cellular level so should be perfect. When I get it I'm gonna try about 4-5" of bridgesii mixed with some OJ, blend, and drink. Let me stomach do the extracting. I watched this video on youtube where they were blending pineapple core which is about the same consistency as cactus. So, I'm pretty excited about this. Just curious what you guys think since a large part of this technique is blending, using a high quality blender = high quality results, right?
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Re: Who wants to know a shortcut to extracting cacti? [Re: fungus_tao]
#22555427 - 11/21/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just freeze and then the cacti breaks down on its own
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Re: Who wants to know a shortcut to extracting cacti? [Re: impatientguy]
#22675776 - 12/19/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Who wants to know a shortcut to extracting cacti? [Re: impatientguy]
#22675806 - 12/19/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice crystals I use lye/xylene/acetone
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Re: Who wants to know a shortcut to extracting cacti? [Re: Shroomism]
#22675856 - 12/19/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Do you use the acetone to clean it your shard or do you use it in place of your exylene?
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