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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: NothingsChanged]
    #22710243 - 12/28/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Suprisingly These were in the Portland area. I think they were thriving in a microclimate. They were under the evergreen trees next to a large area where rain water collects into a large pond.


If you look closely you can see the wood chips under the evergreens. Just wanted to show the habitat pic too.



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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: sunroom73]
    #22710276 - 12/28/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Don't forget water flows downhill, and so do spores :wink:


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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: Adden]
    #22710379 - 12/28/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Damn nice influx of late season finds on the boards! I went out for a few hours today and saw a few stragglers. Nothing compared to that last patch. Did a lot of sporulating new wood chips and I also sent out some wild ovoid prints to a member in Europe for some serbica prints. Extra stoke on that.

sunnroom73- Nice first find. Along a fence line, classic spot to find em.

Dys- You've totally got me jealous that you don't have to be as stealthy as us urban hunters. Whenever I get the chance to go to the coast to pick I always am so relieved at how unpopulated it is. Hunting in the city sucks compared to the dunes. Albeit walking around in the dunes is much more tiring, the payoff is always worth it. In a much different way too because when you hunt in the city there is always that possibility of a monster patch. Which is pale in comparison to how azurescens and cyanescens fruit in the dunes. I almost wish cyanescens were harder to find in the city. Too many people aren't ready for the responsibility. Not saying that I don't like finding monster patches though!

I'll stop blabbing and get to the pictures.












This patch has been such an awesome one. I've posted a few pictures of it this year. One of the only large patches I've found that no one else has. I fed it today and it felt damn good to get my hands sopping wet and cold gathering fresh chips that were laid down in the park elsewhere. Now it will produce well again next season.




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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: Sk8nshram]
    #22710496 - 12/28/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Nice finds folks! Keep 'em coming


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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: SkagitHunter] * 2
    #22710575 - 12/28/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Got my Xmas gift just now when i walked in the house. My girl made it.



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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: NothingsChanged] * 1
    #22710821 - 12/28/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

that's really cool :thumbup:


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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: Adden]
    #22711035 - 12/28/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks, Dys

I am a newb up here in this corner of the country, but I have learned a lot these past few no months from great teachers such as you. I really appreciate all the tips freely shared here.

I definitely would prefer a less stressful hunt along the coast where I could take in the scenery. I made 1 journey out to the upper left corner of OR a couple of months ago with no luck. I had no clue what I was doing but it was a a great time anyway.


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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: Adden]
    #22711072 - 12/28/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Good point. These few little ones were near the top of the slope and by the looks I think it is just starting to establish in this area. I am wondering what I can do to encourage it to expand next season.

And should I put all the spores into the exact spots where these popped out of the pine needles.

Or would I be better to put the spores in a different site that had really thick alder chips, even if I didn't find any cyans in it.


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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: Sk8nshram]
    #22711140 - 12/28/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks Sk8nshram. Any idea why fence lines are good places to look?

What you call stragglers is like a monster patch to me!


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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: sunroom73]
    #22711142 - 12/28/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I ran into a person out here who just makes buckets of chips and randomly tosses handfuls when he goes to parks. From what I gather he has been doing it a long time. As far as efficacy I wouldn't know, but can only surmise it leads to good things.

And thank you for the kind words. Second time in a day I've heard that, lol, I guess I'm doing something right. Homework and field experience are really the only ways to do it, so don't forget to give yourself a pat on the back once in awhile.

Those over-picked areas that you can Googke are usually ranger/cop bust heaven. You'd be surprised how many little towns you can stop in along 101 and just go to a beach approach and look around for half an hour, or walk a trail and look for habitats that might not be good now but look good for next year. I drove by a little "nowhere" town and took a peek.. I wish I had been stopping there all season but that's part of the learning experience and actually kind of the fun just getting better at something you love.

Plus there's interesting history placards and dedications and stuff. Washington does a good job, too. It's better than reading it in a book or online, and, you know, mushrooms. :wink: It's so easy even crawling through scotch broom or where old wood from docks and stuff has come ashore and accumulated, or the manner in which flail threshers throw their clippings as they work.


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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: Adden] * 1
    #22711203 - 12/28/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Fences provide shade and create a microclimate that can encourage mycelial growth and fruiting.


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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: Adden] * 1
    #22711679 - 12/29/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

fiber optics are the future man:thumbup: but forestry is whats up


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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: Adden]
    #22712528 - 12/29/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I had to look up flail threshers...:smile: Not sure I've seen the areas where this happens yet!

I took a pic from the dune grass areas I was hiking through and would like to know if I was in a "good" area and where to search in the large grassy area.

Should I be looking near the edge of dune grass and beach sand? Or on the slopes along the small dune adjacent to the beach? Or along the flat areas behind the dune? Near trees...etc?



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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: sunroom73]
    #22712704 - 12/29/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I've heard the prime spots are closer towards the tree line.


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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: dr.greenfurn]
    #22713042 - 12/29/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, but stay away from the pines. This late in the season you're going to want to move the grasses around. When you spot one, chances are you're already stepping on some or about to. The best advice I got from someone here was to just stop and look at your feet when you see one. Saved me many a crushed fruit. Spread the grasses and look around; if water flows downhill so do spores. They often tend to grow in groups, too, so usually where there's one there's many.

The morning dew also helps. When the sun starts to rise it makes them glisten and stand out. I usually only get 90 minutes of this.

It's hard to say if you should hunt near the tidal line or not. All my pulls recently were where the water occasionally comes up, but it got flooded last week. They still managed to fruit 3-4 days later.

Also watch how the sun hits them. If you're on a path that slopes, look on the inside, everyone always picks the paths (but look anyway, trust me). The place I was at had them in both the flooded part and had hopped over the path from the dunes.

Right now you're looking for microclimates. If you see mushrooms as you walk ("indicator species") then there may be magicals nearby. There aren't many look-a-likes where I've hunted but I've been tricked before. Another reason as to why they should be kept separate.

This kind of stuff but more soil-y. I wanted a habitat shot of this area but sand had come in and covered the older grass. Same thing happened in November and they fruited through it 2 weeks later (see avatar). Made for weird looking fruits.



This was on a game trail.



When you find them, look everywhere. Gently move grass or brambles aside. If you go at it full force, you may uproot fruits.

I'm on mobile with a dying battery so forgive me if I've said this already but look around to see if there's wood that's washed ashore and has had time to leech out and soften up. They seem to love this. 99% of the time not on pine, but I was surprised at this new place to see them growing straight out of it, which is very rare in my experience and what I've read.

As for the flail threshers / mowers.. If the park or area has had maintenance keeping up on the area, look where all the stuff piles up and decomposes. If there are ferns, lift up their leaves or stick both arms in and spread them.

Typically they are on or around needle litter which is not what you really want. The ones growing amongst the grass are usually pretty good.

Get ready to get dirty.. this time of year you'll be moving a lot more out of the way than usual. As someone here said, "Azures don't just stop growing; it's who's willing to go out in these conditions to find sparse specimens".

Hope this helps.

...and when in doubt throw it out.

Look up hypholoma, psathyrella, galerina and the like. You absolutely don't want these. I now refuse to pick anywhere near these when there's coastal flooding. If it ain't blue it ain't for you as they say.

Also get a small inconspicuous tupperware or cereal box or whatever so the fruits don't get crushed. You don't want them in your pockets. Also watch out for overly mature specimens; people this time of year leave them. Some people don't care and eat them anyway but they sit in my gut like a rock and feels like I got kicked in the balls while I'm busy trying to trip. That got old fast.

I took spore prints of everything in the beginning and I'm glad I did. You never want to see white prints, which is why I do it on foil.


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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: Adden] * 1
    #22713075 - 12/29/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Gotta jump in and say that cyans LOVE pines. Good way to find em in the city is look under pines w woodchips beneath them.. or under pines w high lignin sub either way.

I always head straight to the pines first, look under them, then check elsewhere

This has been my experience in the city w cyans.

I've never hunted the coast or azures.

Pines and cys tho trust me, maybe I should add I've only hunted in the puget sound. U can almost count on it tho. It's a very good begging strategy in the puget sound


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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: Raven44]
    #22713179 - 12/29/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I found some in pines in Washington. It made sense though when I saw cleanup crews mulching and tossing stuff. Those piles are usually pretty darn good, especially since the older the better.

Without seeing and mapping out an area it's hard for me to explain. On big sloping dunes, I've found them more so halfway down and then also in little humps across the dune. Some places I've picked end abruptly 5-8ft from the pine litter. That Washington place was a lot different.

Sometimes I've picked them just walking to the beach with dunes on the left and right of me at eye level. You're concealed and don't have to bend over, just stick your arms in. I've not found a ton like that but they were convenient!

When I started coastal hunting I thought everything was pretty cut and dry but when the layout of the environments changed, I realized there was a lot more to it than just looking in dune grass. The way the sun hits, and when, or for how long and what time of year; what type of water (fresh v. salt) comes around them, the places where brambles fare better, things like that.

I can only imagine at this point that I've walked by thousands. There's truly no cut and dry rules. I've found huge azures in mossy emerald groves but they tend to just lead you to more; I wouldn't spend a day hunting in them tho, but they're good as an indicator to show you which direction they may be growing in.

These things will surprise you. Just look where it's going to be warmer (bacteria and decay generates heat and plants/grass helps keep it in, sunlight helps immensely, etc).


Edit: As for the last picking of those nickel-to-quarter sized ones, I still managed to get 3/4oz. :thumbup: Not bad for like 2 or 3 hours of "work".

Edit edit: you may find this useful for ID or study purposes. It's a good starting point at least.



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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: sunroom73]
    #22713870 - 12/29/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

sunroom73 said:


If you look closely you can see the wood chips under the evergreens. Just wanted to show the habitat pic too.








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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: dexterj]
    #22715666 - 12/30/15 02:18 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ele/5379788889.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/vgm/5379755485.html
Almost as funny, not quite, as RSB's craigslist find about the amanitas.

Edit: Homeboy even used the map option. LMAO


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Re: OFFICIAL PNW Fall 2015/16 ACTIVES Thread [Re: SkagitHunter]
    #22715722 - 12/30/15 03:02 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

those are some enterprising individuals  :money:  :hahahafuck:


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