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M. Oreades?
    #22187974 - 09/04/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Found these in the local park's football field, in grass in Fairy Rings, with long grass on the inside of the shroom ring:




I'm pretty sure they are Oreades, but I'd like a conf from a TI.

Also another question - the only thing I've ever seen sprayed around there is the line marking paint for the football field, so given a +ve ID should they be OK to eat? BTW dog piss is not any kind of worry for me - anyway I'll thread and dry them.

Regs, looking forward to a risotto and/or cookies,

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Re: M. Oreades? [Re: ACorvus]
    #22188100 - 09/04/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

im no TI but in my opinion those are marasmuis oreades


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Re: M. Oreades? [Re: Silky_Johnson] * 1
    #22188116 - 09/04/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Cheers.

Printing 3 caps to make sure. Stems are as tough as bootlaces, which seems to be another good indicator.

Have to say they don't taste that sweet raw (munch and spit test) - maybe they get the sweetness when cooked?

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Re: M. Oreades? [Re: ACorvus]
    #22188133 - 09/04/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

could be, ive never tried to eat those.


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Re: M. Oreades? [Re: ACorvus]
    #22188262 - 09/04/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Spore print is white.


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Re: M. Oreades? [Re: Silky_Johnson]
    #22188265 - 09/04/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Check each one for stem toughness, and make sure they have free, broad, widely spaced gills so you can separate them from Clitocybe.  However, in my opinion, those are M. oreades. 

I've eaten them, and they're delicious.

You would wait to consume until confirmed by a TI. 

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Re: M. Oreades? [Re: ACorvus]
    #22188269 - 09/04/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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ACorvus said:
Spore print is white.




Spore print of poisonous Clitocybe is also white.  This is not a reliable sole indicator.


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Re: M. Oreades? [Re: mountainplayer]
    #22188422 - 09/04/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Interestingly I did dicard a conjoined pair of mushies that look dead-on for Clitocybe Dealbata. It was clear to me that they were *not* the same fungus, there ware clear decurrent gills and they were crowded. Scary that they were only 50cm from the main ring. Gills on this collection are all free or only slightly attached to a "knobble" at the top of the stipe.

As I said before it takes some effort to snap the stems (way beyond any Amanita or Clitocybe I've ever picked up), and pulling lengthways it's even harder to break them, maybe 2 kilos of force on the bigger ones. Stipe dia. is consistently <6mm.

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Re: M. Oreades? [Re: ACorvus]
    #22188587 - 09/04/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Interestingly I did dicard a conjoined pair of mushies that look dead-on for Clitocybe Dealbata. It was clear to me that they were *not* the same fungus, there ware clear decurrent gills and they were crowded. Scary that they were only 50cm from the main ring. Gills on this collection are all free or only slightly attached to a "knobble" at the top of the stipe.

As I said before it takes some effort to snap the stems (way beyond any Amanita or Clitocybe I've ever picked up), and pulling lengthways it's even harder to break them, maybe 2 kilos of force on the bigger ones. Stipe dia. is consistently <6mm.

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The tough stipes are a key fieldmark for M. oreades. 

Still, you should wait for a TI.  The beauty of M. oreades is that it dries quickly, and revives really well...almost like it was fresh.  So you don't have to rush.  Hang on until someone with a TI badge verifies.

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Re: M. Oreades? [Re: mountainplayer]
    #22189033 - 09/04/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I would also say m. oreades...the gills are free and well spaced.


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Re: M. Oreades? [Re: ACorvus]
    #22195014 - 09/05/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

All the ones I can see in the picture are M. oreades.

Make sure the gills aren't attached and the stems are tough. Like, you can wrap the entire stem around your finger without it breaking tough.

Discard any you're unsure of and only eat One or Two before you eat any more, this will give you an indication if your body will react badly. Wait a day or Two before eating more. DO NOT FEED OTHERS UNTIL YOU KNOW THEY'RE SAFE. Sorry to caps lock but this is important.


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Re: M. Oreades? [Re: karode13]
    #22195515 - 09/06/15 01:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I would cross section each cap. The majority will almost definitely contain maggots.


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Re: M. Oreades? [Re: karode13]
    #22196573 - 09/06/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Already did that bit. I've been collecting for over 20 years, so I know the rules about ID and eating!

Thanks for your help.

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Re: M. Oreades? [Re: Untitled]
    #22196580 - 09/06/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Eh?

Any mushroom can contain maggots, toxic or otherwise. FYI when I dried them in my dehydrator no maggots crawled out, neither did I see any when inspecting each specimen.

Besides, I don't mind a little extra protein. Semilanceatas always seem to harbour a few critters!

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Re: M. Oreades? [Re: ACorvus]
    #22196964 - 09/06/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

speaking of maggots, I just unwrapped some wild prints I took from about 7 years ago.  Inside, I found hundreds of dead maggots mixed in with the spores from where they tried to escape the foil of death.  Haha


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Re: M. Oreades? [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #22197194 - 09/06/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I always seem to find a perfect Boletus, cut it in half and most of it is just maggot holes. The rest being wriggling maggot bodies. When 50% or more of the mushie is alive and moving I do think it's maybe time to consider looking for something else.

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