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anyone know how to beat insomnia?
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im not sure if what i have is insomnia per say, but every night i stay up a few hours later, every night, so like every other week ill be sleeping at night or day, ect ect. needless to say it gets annoying as fuck. problem is alarm clocks don't work for me, and going to sleep early just doesn't work either. if i go to bed early it will actually take me longer to fall to sleep than it would have if i just stayed up and then went to sleep. i tried sleeping pills and i slept better i guess but it didn't really help my issue at all really.
the last straw that finally made me seek shroomery doctors is that my cycle was just about to switch back to normal(sleep during night) and instead i overslept all fucking day and fucked it all up so i was right back where i was the previous week
another thing that makes this hard is that i can only sleep on my left side for some stupid reason. if i sleep on my right side my nose plugs up and i can't breath through it and then my left side near my heart feels funny and somtimes turns into pain i think a torn pec muscle from always laying on it or something, but also seems like something heart related also prolly from always laying on it. my lungs feel like theirs pressure on them like not only is it hard to breath through my nose but my mouth as well. if i lay on my back the nose problem goes away but all the other shit stays the same
anyways this shit is driving me insane, when i try to wake up before im naturally wanting to wake up, im just so in a daze, i can't think all i can do is fall back to sleep, it feels like it would take every ounce of willpower and it still wouldn't be enough and my mind isn't even there to make that decision in the first place, and if i did manage to get up i feel like i would just feel like shit the entire day
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8] 1
#22186660 - 09/04/15 07:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you can't find a normal sleep schedule and can only sleep on one side and even then have problems. You need to see a real medical doctor.
It's one thing if its hard to fall asleep or something. But you might have something bigger then just sleeping.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8] 1
#22186700 - 09/04/15 07:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm a life long sufferer of insomnia. There are many people here who say drugs aren't the answer and I think these people are idiots and have no idea what real insomnia is like. You ask enough questions, most seem to just have occasional trouble sleeping, which is not anything like have an inability to sleep. I have tried every damn thing under the sun, some things that have never even been suggested here, the only thing that works in my case is heavy tranquilizers and even then, it's a crap shoot.
I took my pills over 8 hours ago and am still not asleep. Drugs aren't the miracle answer all, but they're literally the only thing that even gives me a shot.
One of the things people like to suggest the most is exercise.. I can preform back breaking labor all day and will still not sleep. My insomnia is a total lack of being able to fall asleep. Without drugs, my sleep schedule is stay up for 24-36 hours, sleep 2-4 hours, rinse and repeat. Problem is everyone likes to just say they have insomnia these days because they stay up late. That is not insomnia. If you're sleeping a regular schedule (based on the hours of the norm) you don't have insomnia. You just have a sleep cycle that's not synced to the standard norm for society. So tons of people out there like to minimize it or act as if they understand it when they don't. And quite frankly it pisses me off. "Have you tried x?" yes. "Have you tried y?" yes. "Have you tried z?" yes. "Have you tried every other stupid bullshit answer assigned to a letter of the alphabet?" yes. "well I dunno, works for me". Next time it comes up "have you tried x?"........ FUCK YOU!!
Insomnia is a bitch. I can't diagnose it over the internet, but if you have it, you'll know. It leaves no doubt.
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i already talked to them a little about it, but these fucking doctors these days don't really do shit, they just wait for YOU to tell them whats wrong with you and they try to treat what YOU told them. ive found that when i don't come out and give them what i think is wrong that they almost never say shit or try to treat anything. they just brush it all off and say im young and don't worry blah blah blah. so last time i was in i was really pushing these pain by my heart just to get them to do and check something and finally got them to do a heart test thingy and apparently that all checked out ok. i did mention my sleeping problem and all they said was that some people have trouble sleeping on one said and that its usually because its easier on the heart or some shit like that.
but to me, it seems like my heart is shitty and on one side it just can't keep up, so everything just kind of suffers and shuts down a little
overall they don't really take anything serious, they just play the doctor game safe, try to save money and not actually solve anything. like i told them i had trouble sleeping but they didn't even perscribe anything for me to at least try, i always gotta ask for shit and tell them what to do. the doctor should be telling me what they recommend, but they never do and ive had different docs.
like my ear was all fucked up and i told the first doc what i thought it was right off the bat cuss it happened before, ear drum exploded and oozed yellow shit for days. so i got anti botics. then went back few weeks later for checkup on it and different doc and he's like oh your ear looks ok not sure what the other doctor seen i didn't have time to read......WHAT you didn't even read it? jesus christ im thinking. but this dude said my ear was fine, but i know what happened the last time it felt that way and it wasn't nothing and i know what the other doc said she said she could actually see the fluid behind my eardrum. anyways this dumb fuck went on to talk some shit about some old blood labs and how he wanted me to get some more bloodwork. but this asshole didn't even know i was on atkins, and i told them that the last time i had bloodwork and the previous 2 weeks when i was talking to the other doctor. so not only did he not know that, but he also seemed like he didn't even know what atkins does, it raises the overall cholesteral but lowers the bad shit. so he seen high cholesteral and thought my numbers were horrible......nothing but idiots
the only thing i will say thow is when im on atkins it seems like i lose circulation to my arms and shit really easy so maybe it is bad i dunno but its hard to trust docs when they are always fishing for you to diagnos shit for them and then don't read any of the fucking notes from 2 weeks prior or i guess my entire dam chart
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Shroomslip]
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well thats why i said i wasn't sure it was insomnia but its gotta be some form of it because it sure as hell isn't normal and sure as hell sucks a big fat dick. the point is when i want to go to sleep i can't, if i try ill toss and turn forever. and having a sleep cycle that is always changing sucks so bad, it means i can't ever do anything that requires a schedule. this shit basically started in highschool my mom had to wake me up everyday and even then id still end up late, missing classes, regualarly every week. i skipped the most classes out of everyone, i prolly skipped more than everyone put together. i missed first period 2 or 3 times a week, and was late all the other days, and id miss an entire day of school almost every week.
whats fucked up tho is i finally asked her to help me, she gets up in the morning early anyway so i told her just come wake me up when u wake up to try and fix this. whats this bitch do? she purposely waits till really late to finally come wake me up and says oh you can't sleep in all way. all she does is try to stop my cycle from fixing itself like it normally does, that doesn't help at all, i need woke up the same time every morning, just to get me started at least, but she won't, i told her don't even bother waking me up if you arn't going to do it in the morning crazy women comes in and wakes me up at like noon or 3pm anyway......so i finally had to start locking my door to keep her out. i swear its that munchowder syndrome shit where she tries to keep her kid sick type shit
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22186755 - 09/04/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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anyways i think i heard some people drink a glass of wine to get to sleep, i might just try that. the downside is once i start that shit, ill prolly never get to sleep without it
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22186757 - 09/04/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i already talked to them a little about it, but these fucking doctors these days don't really do shit, they just wait for YOU to tell them whats wrong with you and they try to treat what YOU told them. ive found that when i don't come out and give them what i think is wrong that they almost never say shit or try to treat anything.
How is else is this supposed to work? Are they supposed to magically read your mind and automatically know whats wrong with you? Doctor /=/ Wizard
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#22186777 - 09/04/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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no they are supposed to listen to symptoms and tell ME whats wrong. listen carefully, im saying they never do that, they wait for me to GUESS what i THINK is wrong, then they just go with it
go try it the next time you go in and you'll see, if your really vague and just tell them the real simple shit you'll get nowhere because they are fishing for you to tell them exactly whats wrong yourself
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Shroomslip]
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Shroomslip said: I'm a life long sufferer of insomnia. There are many people here who say drugs aren't the answer and I think these people are idiots and have no idea what real insomnia is like. You ask enough questions, most seem to just have occasional trouble sleeping, which is not anything like have an inability to sleep. I have tried every damn thing under the sun, some things that have never even been suggested here, the only thing that works in my case is heavy tranquilizers and even then, it's a crap shoot.
I took my pills over 8 hours ago and am still not asleep. Drugs aren't the miracle answer all, but they're literally the only thing that even gives me a shot.
One of the things people like to suggest the most is exercise.. I can preform back breaking labor all day and will still not sleep. My insomnia is a total lack of being able to fall asleep. Without drugs, my sleep schedule is stay up for 24-36 hours, sleep 2-4 hours, rinse and repeat. Problem is everyone likes to just say they have insomnia these days because they stay up late. That is not insomnia. If you're sleeping a regular schedule (based on the hours of the norm) you don't have insomnia. You just have a sleep cycle that's not synced to the standard norm for society. So tons of people out there like to minimize it or act as if they understand it when they don't. And quite frankly it pisses me off. "Have you tried x?" yes. "Have you tried y?" yes. "Have you tried z?" yes. "Have you tried every other stupid bullshit answer assigned to a letter of the alphabet?" yes. "well I dunno, works for me". Next time it comes up "have you tried x?"........ FUCK YOU!!
Insomnia is a bitch. I can't diagnose it over the internet, but if you have it, you'll know. It leaves no doubt.
Same.
I also do this but my schedule allows 48h stints and sometimes 4-12h sleep.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
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Ohhh gotcha. Misunderstood what you meant. I definitely agree with that.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
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its like the pain i was talking about on my left side, i can only sleep on my left side, and now my left side hurts almost every night so its becoming a huge bitch. i told them the pain, told them where, they were like oh ok, then they waited and waited for me to finally tell them i thought it was my heart or a muscle. they ran the heart test, said it was ok, then NOTHING else happened with that, they just ignored it and moved on to some other shit i was dealing with. so the only side i can sleep on and im in pain with no answer on how to fix it
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22186806 - 09/04/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I find a lot of doctors to be of average intelligence. Everyone puts them on this pedestal in regards to how smart they are. Don't get me wrong, there are some brilliant surgeons and specialists out there. But your average, everyday, GP could've graduated last in his class from some shitty non accredited Carribbean med school and you'd never know it.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#22186812 - 09/04/15 08:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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and the worst part is they act more and more like cops everyday, when i was in the waiting room he was in an argument with another patient over meds. apparently she had cronic pain for 5 years and he wouldn't percribe her pain meds for it, so she said she was going to get a new doctor and he said she had to be real careful not to burn bridges because clinics spread the word around real quick......dude basically threatened her not to switch doctors because he was being a shitty one
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Shroomslip] 1
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Shroomslip said: I'm a life long sufferer of insomnia. There are many people here who say drugs aren't the answer and I think these people are idiots and have no idea what real insomnia is like. You ask enough questions, most seem to just have occasional trouble sleeping, which is not anything like have an inability to sleep. I have tried every damn thing under the sun, some things that have never even been suggested here, the only thing that works in my case is heavy tranquilizers and even then, it's a crap shoot.
Have you tried GHB? It gives me the highest quality sleep ever, the only problem is you are guaranteed to wake up after 4 hours. The other problem is that if you don't go to bed quickly after taking it, you will be enjoying yourself too much to go to sleep.
Oh yeah, and you need to be very careful about not mixing it with other tranquilizers or you'll end up dead.
And let me add any doctor that carelessly prescribes you Ambien is a total fucking idiot. That shit is crazy. It can be fun, but it's a fucking heavy trip if you take too much and stay awak.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22186818 - 09/04/15 08:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Eh. I wouldn't so quick to judge that situation from a third party view like that. She could've just been doctor shopping. The bigger issue is how they're being paid off by pharmaceutical companies to push shitty antidepressants that have been barely clinically tested for everyone that comes in there with "anxiety" or "insomnia" I'm surprised he didn't try and give you seroquel for your sleeping problems.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: cybrbeast] 1
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Shroomslip said: I'm a life long sufferer of insomnia. There are many people here who say drugs aren't the answer and I think these people are idiots and have no idea what real insomnia is like. You ask enough questions, most seem to just have occasional trouble sleeping, which is not anything like have an inability to sleep. I have tried every damn thing under the sun, some things that have never even been suggested here, the only thing that works in my case is heavy tranquilizers and even then, it's a crap shoot.
Have you tried GHB? It gives me the highest quality sleep ever, the only problem is you are guaranteed to wake up after 4 hours. The other problem is that if you don't go to bed quickly after taking it, you will be enjoying yourself too much to go to sleep.
Oh yeah, and you need to be very careful about not mixing it with other tranquilizers or you'll end up dead.
How could you possibly type this out and think it was good advice?
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Shroomslip said: I'm a life long sufferer of insomnia. There are many people here who say drugs aren't the answer and I think these people are idiots and have no idea what real insomnia is like. You ask enough questions, most seem to just have occasional trouble sleeping, which is not anything like have an inability to sleep. I have tried every damn thing under the sun, some things that have never even been suggested here, the only thing that works in my case is heavy tranquilizers and even then, it's a crap shoot.
Have you tried GHB? It gives me the highest quality sleep ever, the only problem is you are guaranteed to wake up after 4 hours. The other problem is that if you don't go to bed quickly after taking it, you will be enjoying yourself too much to go to sleep.
Oh yeah, and you need to be very careful about not mixing it with other tranquilizers or you'll end up dead.
How could you possibly type this out and think it was good advice?
You don't know what you are talking about.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
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The phrase "have you tried" literally fucking makes my eye twitch. I will give him credit though, it's the first time anyone's asked me that.
No I haven't, and don't need to. It's a sedative, less extreme and better sedatives conducive to sleep exist, one of which I'm on. GHB is going to do nothing more for me then what I'm on now.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22186843 - 09/04/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I find that smoking some weed an hour before bed helps me sleep but if I smoke immediately before bed it doesn't help because im trapped in my mind and thinking too much.
Also ive been wondering about only being able to sleep on one side too because I can only sleep on my stomach. If I try to sleep on my sides or back I feel too uncomfortable. Also I sleep without a pillow because my adams apple sticks out really far into the pillow and it suffocates me.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
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I have insomnia as well. While at work I will start to feel "tired" (I think its more of a boredom) Once I get off work I wont be able to sleep. When I do manage to sleep though it doesn't matter how I lay. You might to get checked about that idk I'm not a doctor. Ive taken many meds for it and tried a lot of home remedies. None work for me. I just stay up till I pass out basically. I might get like 2-4 hours of a day.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: cybrbeast] 1
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Please read your post again and tell me how you think that's going to help Shroomslip in the slightest. He'll possibly fall asleep for 4 hours and end up dead if he mixes it with anything else? Seriously? That sounds like good advice to you? Not to mention you're advocating for him to take an extremely addictive sedative EVERY NIGHT for insomnia?
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Shroomslip]
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Shroomslip said: The phrase "have you tried" literally fucking makes my eye twitch. I will give him credit though, it's the first time anyone's asked me that.
No I haven't, and don't need to. It's a sedative, less extreme and better sedatives conducive to sleep exist, one of which I'm on. GHB is going to do nothing more for me then what I'm on now.
Sorry man, I know where you are coming from. I'm currently fighting insomnia hard, if I fail I'll end up manic and in a mental institution. This worked wonders for me in the past. It is a prescribed drug in extreme cases as I linked to above.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: cybrbeast]
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SS, Do you have like a crazy high tolerance to benzos or something?
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22186880 - 09/04/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tons of exercise during the day in sunlight and fresh air combined with valerian root at bed time, occasional Diphenhydramine and even more occasionally etizolam or benzo perhaps.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Moonshoe]
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What kind VR do you recommend Moonshoe? The shit I bought from kroger sucks absolutely donkey balls
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: cybrbeast]
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She could've just been doctor shopping.
thats why im saying they act too much like cops instead of doctors. she either IS doctor shopping or she isn't, these docs are trying to play detective and people in pain are going unhelped. if she goes in with pain, its the doctors job that she leaves with some kind of answer to help it. she said she had the pain for 5 years, chronic pain. until its proven that she is doctor shopping, he should act like a doctor, not nanny state police doctor
and the way they don't help you without specifically telling them shit, you will always sound like a drug seeker because you will have to ask for pain meds to ever get them
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
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I just buy whatever valerian extract I find at safeway or shoppers drug mart then take twice the recommended dose. You can also get it with passionflower in it which is good but is a mild MAOI,
kava also can help. L theanine. Chamomile, california poppy,
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One of my main problems with sleep is the fact that I wake up after 2-4 hours. If GHB is going to have me waking up after 4 hours, it's not much help to me. I have a fucked up brain that prevents me from obtaining the nessecary sleep to function. Falling asleep is a huge problem, but staying asleep is just as huge of a problem.
I unfortunately know what psychosis from a lack of sleep is like.. GHB may (and I even kinda doubt that) knock me out every night as planned, but after awhile those few hours of sleep are going to add up. My current medicine may not knock me out all the time, but at least when I do sleep, it's for enough hours to offshoot the psychosis. I may not sleep every night, but I sleep enough for enough time, that I don't go fucking crazy again.Quote:
Malcolm_Xtasy said: SS, Do you have like a crazy high tolerance to benzos or something?
I have a natural tolerance to all medicine. One of the main issues. Drugs in classes I've never taken before I've had to take double or triple the dose most people have to take to achieve similar results. Whether recreation or medicinal.
Most of the drugs that knock people out, do next to nothing to me. The ones that DO effect me, are the "last resort" ones, and always at max dose. Truth be told, if I didn't take my current medicine with alcohol, it would have no effect on me. I can't go telling my doctor that, but I can take my max dose of benzo and won't feel shit. I don't even use it by itself. I take with benadryl as well.
I dunno if I was born this way, or if it was because my grandparents (raised me) had me on sleeping meds since before I can remember. I'm kinda guessing the latter. Whatever the reason, this is who I am now and I have to deal with it.
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There is a fatal prion disease in humans that kills people through insomnia
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
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Stop taking meth
Also I've found melatonin to be useful for regulating my sleep cycle. Also I sometimes use an herbal tea from Yogi Tea called Bedtime tea I think. It works well for helping me reach sleepy time.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: ryanriot]
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Ive had insomnia since I was a kid what used to help me is smoking weed and watching a movie I enjoy but seen a thousand times and I would fall asleep. I havnt smoked weed in a year because of this job im trying to get so I havnt been sleeping really well ive been up for over 24 hours as I type this but im starting to get tired and will probably fall asleep in a lil bit, hopefully.
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#22186947 - 09/04/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Get this book called The Rabbit who wanted to sleep and make someone read it to you every night.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Rabbit-Wants-Fall-Asleep/dp/149617951X
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Shroomslip]
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Shroomslip said: One of my main problems with sleep is the fact that I wake up after 2-4 hours. If GHB is going to have me waking up after 4 hours, it's not much help to me. I have a fucked up brain that prevents me from obtaining the nessecary sleep to function. Falling asleep is a huge problem, but staying asleep is just as huge of a problem.
I unfortunately know what psychosis from a lack of sleep is like.. GHB may (and I even kinda doubt that) knock me out every night as planned, but after awhile those few hours of sleep are going to add up. My current medicine may not knock me out all the time, but at least when I do sleep, it's for enough hours to offshoot the psychosis. I may not sleep every night, but I sleep enough for enough time, that I don't go fucking crazy again.Quote:
Malcolm_Xtasy said: SS, Do you have like a crazy high tolerance to benzos or something?
I have a natural tolerance to all medicine. One of the main issues. Drugs in classes I've never taken before I've had to take double or triple the dose most people have to take to achieve similar results. Whether recreation or medicinal.
Most of the drugs that knock people out, do next to nothing to me. The ones that DO effect me, are the "last resort" ones, and always at max dose. Truth be told, if I didn't take my current medicine with alcohol, it would have no effect on me. I can't go telling my doctor that, but I can take my max dose of benzo and won't feel shit. I don't even use it by itself. I take with benadryl as well.
I dunno if I was born this way, or if it was because my grandparents (raised me) had me on sleeping meds since before I can remember. I'm kinda guessing the latter. Whatever the reason, this is who I am now and I have to deal with it.
Well if you take it a prescribed some people are able to have two 4 hour sessions back to back.
http://www.drugs.com/xyrem.html
Usual Adult Dose for Narcolepsy:
Initial dose: 4.5 grams orally per night administered in two equal, divided doses of 2.25 g at bedtime and 2.25 g administered 2.5 to 4 hours later. Maintenance dose: Increase the dose by 1.5 g orally per night at weekly intervals (additional 0.75 g at bedtime and 0.75 g administered 2.5 to 4 hours later) to the dose range of 6 g to 9 g per night. Maximum dose: 9 g orally per night
Uses: Treatment of cataplexy in narcolepsy and excessive daytime sleepiness (EDS) in narcolepsy
Xyrem must be taken at bedtime and again two and a half to four hours later. This medicine works very fast and should be taken while you are sitting in bed ready for sleep. Prepare both doses while you are getting ready for bed. Place the second dose next to your bed so you can take it without getting up. You will most likely need to set an alarm to awaken for the second dose.
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I don't have narcolepsy. My doctor is already monitoring me for high blood pressure, heart disease runs in my family. I really doubt my doctor is certified to prescribe it.
Then let's be honest, I'm on this site because I love drugs. There's no way I'd use it responsibly, the only reason I can use my medication responsibly is because I see no recreational value in it. I'm also an alcoholic and doubt that would mix well with GHB.
Thanks for the idea, but really, there are many reasons why it's a bad idea or not possible.
Also my eye is still twitching from "have you tried".
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Shroomslip]
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If you truly can't use drugs responsibly then I think you shouldn't be on this site, and go to Erowid instead, and read that until you can use them responsibly.
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You're just full of great ideas this morning aren't ya?
If people who didn't use drugs responsibly were banned from this site then the shroomery would just be a shell of itself
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You're talking about two different responsibles. The one in which you're referring to, the recreational sense, I can do. I still have all my toes. But a purely medical responsibility? Come the fuck on.. I like drugs. If I have something with high recreational value, I'm not going to be using it in a pure medication status. No one is. If someone loves to experiment with drugs, and finds recreation in some drug they're prescribed, it won't be long before they're abusing it. Doesn't mean they'll end up dead or under a freeway overpass strung out, but it's going to start becoming more of a high than therapy. Anyone who believes otherwise is naive or in denial.
Certain people can use Xanax responsibly, because they don't see recreation in it. You best not give me a script for that shit though.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Shroomslip]
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Shroomslip said: The phrase "have you tried" literally fucking makes my eye twitch. I will give him credit though, it's the first time anyone's asked me that.
No I haven't, and don't need to. It's a sedative, less extreme and better sedatives conducive to sleep exist, one of which I'm on. GHB is going to do nothing more for me then what I'm on now.
All about dosage.
it's the pinnacle of sleep, is not abrassive against sleep cycles and is the only endogenous hormone i've used that makes me wake up refreshed. You take it you close your eyes you wake up in the morning. But yeah if you go junkiestyle rather then sort your issue out, your loss (mine too)
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Beanhead]
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A junkie would do whatever he could to secure those drugs. The very fact I won't tempt myself with such things would seem to suggest otherwise.
I know I'd love heroin, but refuse to ever touch it because of what will happen, does that make me a heroin junky?
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Shroomslip]
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Good thing I read your post cause I wanted to suggest exercise 
Insomnia must be terrible. When I worked night-shifts I had a crooked sleep schedule but no more than that. I am assuming the lack of sleep makes you just as tired as everybody else but without the eventual release of actual sleeping?
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Tripsurfer said: Good thing I read your post cause I wanted to suggest exercise 
Insomnia must be terrible. When I worked night-shifts I had a crooked sleep schedule but no more than that. I am assuming the lack of sleep makes you just as tired as everybody else but without the eventual release of actual sleeping?
@ Makiaveli
Dont bitch about your mom. Its her house and her rules. If you dont like it man the fuck up and move out
A lack of proper sleep (sleep deprivation) is literally able to drive people insane. Not a little off, but the insane you imagine when someone tells you about an insane killer with delusional ideas.
Our brains depend on sleep, to an extent few ever really realize. Sleep is extremely important in our functioning and thought processes.
I've seen the deep side of sleep deprivation and it is not pretty. There's a fake report out there on the soviets studying sleep deprivation and how the subjects eventually went insane. It may not of happened, but it's not really far off the mark.
I can't stress this enough. A lack of sleep, can drive people insane. If you Google, you'll find places that both support and dispute this, having been there myself, I know it to be real. It probably depends on the individual, I'm not the most grounded with sleep, but total lack of it over long periods has driven me to extremes that are far beyond "out of character" for me. Rationality goes away. Paranoia and all kinds of weird shit starts setting in. That's not even getting to the more physical effects.
Insomnia is a bitch, I honestly wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I probably have a level more on the extreme side of things. I also have a more extreme than usual anxiety issue. I don't really doubt the two are linked. I dunno which causes which, or which is really just more severe making the other more severe.
If you wanna know what sleep deprivation is like (beyond just forcing yourself through it) you can read about it or watch a bunch of good documentaries on it.
Lack of sleep won't kill us right away like an absence of oxygen, but it's pretty much as vital to keep us functioning.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Shroomslip]
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My insomnia was mental and physical. Insomnia is a side effect of something much larger: a lackluster life on repeat, sedentary lifestyle with garbage as your main diet and TV/PC as your main exercise, or just drinking too much coffee and taking too many stimulants.
Are you sure you've actually properly ruled these out as factors?
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Refer back to "have you tried".
GHB is the only new idea I've been thrown in years.
Everybody and their mother has some solution to it and always love to push it around like they have the miracle cure.
As hard as it is to believe for some people, true insomnia does exist. There are those of us out there who simply cannot sleep, no matter what variable you decide to target.
I mean I get it, the term insomnia is throw around so much these days, most people don't even understand what the fuck it is to begin with. These days it's basically equated to some late teen/early 20's person who likes to stay up til 3am and sleep til 11. That is not fucking insomnia.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Tripsurfer]
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Tripsurfer said: Good thing I read your post cause I wanted to suggest exercise 
Insomnia must be terrible. When I worked night-shifts I had a crooked sleep schedule but no more than that. I am assuming the lack of sleep makes you just as tired as everybody else but without the eventual release of actual sleeping?
@ Makiaveli
Dont bitch about your mom. Its her house and her rules. If you dont like it man the fuck up and move out
lol wut, your an idiot it has nothing to do with rules, i asked her to help me and instead she's doing the opposite, before i asked it was a complete non issue, its just a bitch being a bitch you don't like facts then don't talk about her or the situation because im the one living it im the only one with the facts. your just parroting some dumb shit you've heard 100 times on the internet and it doesn't even apply to what i said, its not a dam rule, she didn't give 2 shits about me or my sleep schedule, i asked for help, and she did the exact opposite just to be a bitch like she always does
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
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Insomnia symptoms may include:
Difficulty falling asleep at night Awakening during the night Awakening too early Not feeling well rested after a night's sleep Daytime tiredness or sleepiness Irritability, depression or anxiety Difficulty paying attention, focusing on tasks or remembering Increased errors or accidents Tension headaches Distress in the stomach and intestines (gastrointestinal tract) Ongoing worries about sleep
Someone with insomnia will often take 30 minutes or more to fall asleep
also sounds like insomnia is actually a pretty broad term, i have everything on that list except the headaches. altho the awakening early part is mostly when im sleeping during the day and due to noises like garbage trucks n shit, but i do also get it during one of my flip cycles too unreleated to noise but other than that mostly non issue.
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Shroomslip said: A junkie would do whatever he could to secure those drugs. The very fact I won't tempt myself with such things would seem to suggest otherwise.
I know I'd love heroin, but refuse to ever touch it because of what will happen, does that make me a heroin junky?
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Shroomslip said: Refer back to "have you tried".
GHB is the only new idea I've been thrown in years.
Everybody and their mother has some solution to it and always love to push it around like they have the miracle cure.
As hard as it is to believe for some people, true insomnia does exist. There are those of us out there who simply cannot sleep, no matter what variable you decide to target.
I mean I get it, the term insomnia is throw around so much these days, most people don't even understand what the fuck it is to begin with. These days it's basically equated to some late teen/early 20's person who likes to stay up til 3am and sleep til 11. That is not fucking insomnia.
Shit I don't know how many times i've cried like a little bitch about my insomnia and GHB being the cure.
Even was stickied in ODD 
& sorry no, your semantics doesn't change the fact.
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Take these together at the same time 30 minutes before bed:
- L-Tryptophan - Melatonin
----- If they don't work, you will need to take like a box of Valerian, this will get you to sleep. Take enough Valerian = same as benzo.
$3-5 for 60 pills Take them all, it will work like a benzo pill (buy one with Valerian only in it)
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
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ive had insomnia, and it sucks bad. Hate it. Screws up my whole sleeep schedule.
Ive found that if i have aan uneventful, easy day, with sleeping in, i get insomnia.
The best non-drug cure ive found for insomnia is having a exhuasting day, either physically or mentally, or both.
Having an exhausating day makes sleep really easy, because u basically have no choice but too sleep, cause u are so mentally or physically (or both) spent, u need the sleep immediately. Its not easy to do everyday, especially since u adapt to challenging situations over time, but its possible.
Having a demanding job, either physically or mentally, or doing a demanding physical work-out are two great things for sleep. Dont drink coffee or energy drinks, especially after noon, those drinks will prevent sleep.
Also, doing something mentally challenging thru the whole day, such as driving all day, can help with sleep.
As for drugs, ive found that beers make me sleep, espeically wheat beers. drink a couple (not too much), should help with sleep.
Ive also heard a shot of pure butter helps with sleep. I think big calorie meals in general make you sleepy.
Eat turkey at night.
Of course theres melatonin and Ambien, but use those as a last resort only.
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If your insomnia is that bad and it's stopping you from living life to the max, you have nothing to lose and gotta go to last resorts, like strong hypnotics, like opiates, etc
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
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Man up, move out, problem solved
If you joined at 18 you are almost 30 now anyway. I hear girls find it a real turn on when a man lives with his mom at that age... o wait, no thats not true at all
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Tripsurfer]
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OP
Get lots of exercise. There is nothing you can really do for insomnia.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Tripsurfer]
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yep because someone who cant stay on the same sleep cycle for more than a week will surely be able to hold a job to move out. your comments in this thread are straight
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After a day of lots of physical exercise, like skiing or whatever, it is practically impossible to stay awake. People need to change their habits. Eat better, stop drinking coffee, stop playing on your computer with a bright screen until midnight.
Your other option is to get loaded up on addictive drugs and end up with worse insomnia.
You need to make lifestyle changes.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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A couple months ago I had chronic insomnia for three days.
It's was the worst fucking feeling I've ever had in my life and by far one of the most bizarre things that has happend to me, I get goosebumps thinking about it.
Couldn't a sleep for 3 fucking days and have no idea why, no matter what I tied couldn't get to sleep it was nuts, by the third day I felt like a different person in a different reality.
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Yeah, sleeep depravation is weird.
It kinds feels like youre still awake while at the same time still dreaming. Very strange.
It can also be vary dangerous if u are driving while sleep deprived.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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I had this weird feeling in my brain the first day I couldn't get to sleep, like all day I just felt weird and I wasn't even doing drugs lol
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said: Yeah, sleeep depravation is weird.
It kinds feels like youre still awake while at the same time still dreaming. Very strange.
I've made it to six days awake without one second of sleep several times.
One time on the fifth day awake I thought a bunch of people were coming over for a party and I had my classmates over and we were smoking meth shards in my flower garden. Talking to them was as real as talking to a normal person. Sometimes when I would go to grab the meth pipe it would vanish and they would push meth down the vines of the bushes and I would try to catch the meth dew in my hands. Those people were obviously never there and I found out the next day by messaging those specific people on Facebook.
The floor was covered with black pencil width worms moving quickly and it was cool as hell to see. Outside there would be cars pulling up to my drive way and I would go to greet them and nobody would be there and it didn't seem to not make sense to me. My piss was full of little sea monkeys and outside those worms looked like big snakes. There was lots of other stuff happening like I would see needles full of meth or heroin on the table and try to grab them and they would disappear.
That binge though I had literally smoked, injected and snorted over 2.5 grams of meth and had been stabbed and had a ton of fucked up shit happen.
Other times though I had even made it to six days awake. The best I had ever felt in my life was on the fifth day of a binge and I did a massive shot where I emptied out an entire baggy which had at least 300mg of meth in it and just slammed it down all at once.
I did go all the way to seven days awake with a couple hours of sleep on the sixth. At the end of the seventh I would have undercover cops snapping pictures of me and the room would flash and I would hear tons and tons of voices and walkie talkies and it was fucking insane.
The last month of my use I only slept ten days out of the entire month. I went hella crazy and am glad my meth days are behind me. 
None of this seems real to me anymore being sober it really does feel like a messed up dream that never happened.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22188439 - 09/04/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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insomnia is a bitch. I've had issues with it since I was a little kid. Right now I'm dealing with health issues and complications of an auto-immune disorder and I've been going through periods of extreme fatigue, but when it clears up I seem to go right back to insomnia. It really sucks.
All the sleeping pills will eventually stop working over time, if they work to begin with. I would still explore other medications(both otc and natural as well as maybe a different prescription) but try and use that stuff on a short term basis, look up sleep hygiene and habits, and focus primarily on improving that, and use any medications as a tool to help implicate changes.
The only thing that will actually set me right is forcing myself to stay up until 9pm at the earliest, sometimes it means more than one day of powering through sleep deprivation - but naps will always make everything worse for me. It's easier said, than done, of course, and I my sleep cycle never seems to stay on the wagon very long so I feel like I'm constantly correcting it.
Insomnia sucks. Good luck.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: pirate-blues]
#22188582 - 09/04/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mac, you might need steroids for your pain. It sounds like a torn muscle or connective tissue. That can be a bitch to heal up. The right exercise will help, try various stretching and movement and see what seems to trigger the pain. If you can't pin it down general stretching and light exercise might fix it without steroids. They have hgh stimulating peptides, they are not steroids but stimulate your body to produce its own. Might help, it helped fix tendonitis in my arm.
I've been an insomniac for a long time. I finally found a system that works for me, might not work for everyone. First, what I tried that did not work. Benzos, stay away from them they are hard drugs and more addictive than heroin. I tried antidepressants because they make you sleepy, I tried loads of things including etiz, melatonin, etc etc etc.
What does work is getting off those nasty drugs, vaping some pot late in the evening seems to put me to sleep. I though aha, I found it. Then after a couple months I got a tolerance to the sleepy effect. So now I use low dose of a few things that always work to give me a break from the pot.
day 1 - pot day 2 - pot day 3 - about 3mg Seroquel day 4 and 5, pot day 6 about 0.8mg mirtazapine day 7,8 pot day 9 - about .25mg etiz
Then repeat.
The doses of ser, mirt and etiz will sound like way too little. If you use them frequently you get a tolerance quickly but if you've been off them a while they work great. I was taking 15mg of mirt to get to sleep but now less than a mg does it. Same with Seroquel, was taking 50mg, using it once every 9 days means a tiny dose will work.
If I'm really wound up I may need something more. I do have loads of the bad stuff in reserve, I just try not to use it.
Shroomslip, have you tried exercise? I hear it works.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
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So you start bitching about the person supporting your sorry ass Nice!
Get a job with flexible hours, work nightshifts, work from home. Insomnia is quite common, you think all those people depend on family to support them?
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22189005 - 09/04/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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holY fuck!
Thats hardcore bitter cactus. A meth binge will do that. My girlfriend told me a meth story where she stayed up all night and had a "bad trip" where she wandered into a park at night and saw a hige group of alien-like native people trying to "sacrafice" her. She ran and ran around the park, tripping on meth delusions. Scary stuff. She said she got sleep the previous night, but i bet she was on a meth binge.
Ive read a similar story of sleep depravation from meth use on Erowid. It was insane, and the crazy shit started happening from day 7 as well.
i imagine a high dose datura trip is similar
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LogicaL Chaos said: holY fuck!
Thats hardcore bitter cactus. A meth binge will do that. My girlfriend told me a meth story where she stayed up all night and had a "bad trip" where she wandered into a park at night and saw a hige group of alien-like native people trying to "sacrafice" her. She ran and ran around the park, tripping on meth delusions. Scary stuff. She said she got sleep the previous night, but i bet she was on a meth binge.
Ive read a similar story of sleep depravation from meth use on Erowid. It was insane, and the crazy shit started happening from day 7 as well.
i imagine a high dose datura trip is similar 
None of what happened to your girlfriend even moderately surprises me.
My worst psychosis was basically I was doing shots all day, hadn't even been up for that long maybe two days. I was out and about with my dealer hitting the pipe and doing lots of good shots in back alleys and in 711 washrooms and shit.
I got so paranoid and eventually said peace to her. I thought I was being chased by the cops. That day I had bought a hundred dollar bag of meth and did some before with my buddy and I ended up thinking I was about to get arrested so I ate the entire bag of meth. I had easily close to a gram of meth in my system that I had eaten and I went into hyper psychosis mode within minutes.
I was sprinting up and down streets, running from choppers, doing flips over fences and running across busy roads with cars honking at me. I hid in people's shed's, back yards trying to be stealth and not moving. I ended up in some dude's garage and was freaking out begging him not to call the cops and I layed in the garage there geeked out freaking out. The garage opened and some man grabbed my arm and said "gotcha", grabbed my arm then I knocked his arm away then sprinted at full speed. If there were to be a camera of this it would be out of a movie cause I was sprinting so fast for so long and it was so fucked.
I was literally running around doing this shit for a good twelve hours and was so dehydrated and the bones were sticking out of my body I must have burnt so many calories. I am surprised I never had a heart attack or stroke because I easily should have died from that dose it was completely fucked up and thinking about it scares me to this day.
But ya, usually I could handle myself well even days into these binges but if the days go too far or the dose is way way too high you can snap into psychosis easily. That was easily the most messed up day of my life and it is embarassing. I am just glad I never did get arrested but it really did look like there was a mob of cop cars and choppers coming after me and to this day I am not sure if it was real.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: ryanriot]
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I won't begin to try and advise you people. The only time I've suffered from insomnia has been when quiting the drink and sometimes when I wake needing a piss at 2 in the morning I can't get back to sleep, that sucks enough.
I came across this > NoiseGenerator that you can Calibrate to your own hearing. and download onto a memory stick or some such that you can plug into a dab radio and all that jazz. Interesting site to pass a few on anyway.
I always loved the sound off wind/rain outside while snuggled up all warm and dry. I reckon having that sound on tap while lying in bed could be helpful. Just listen and drift off on the sound.
But then if I were in bed now I could have listened to this, on as I type.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: deucedbi9]
#22189244 - 09/04/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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People with insomnia have nobody to blame but themselves. There is such a thing as sleep hygiene and doing things that make getting to sleep easier at night.
A hundred years ago I guarantee there were way less people with insomnia. That is because they were doing more physical exertion all day and not on the computer chugging cokes and drinking coffee and popping pills all day.
There is no solution to insomnia. Drugs are a shitty solution and they make it worse in the long run. It is on you to make lifestyle changes to make falling asleep easier.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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The only things that ever kept me up were a wandering g mind, for which I try to stop thinking, or the light of the day or street lights. Get a sleeping mask and may there relaxing, unless you want to go a chemical rout
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22189530 - 09/04/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Meth is one hell of a drug!
Its weird how even without sleep deprivation, u can "snap" into psychosis from a little too much meth. Maybe thats what happened to my GF back in the day. Just a little too much smoked meth, then BOOM. Psychosis trip.
Thats one reason why i never wanted to touchh meth, ive heard too many stories like that.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
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probably deficient in vitamin D
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Valerian root
Medical grade sativa (amazing sleep) and highly recommended.
Exercise hard throughout the day
Remove stimulants such as coffee and anything containing caffeine
force yourself to sleep before 10pm
Eat a balanced plant based diet high in carbohydrates and greens, and low in fat.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: theRAPeutic]
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
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RanOutOfWeed said: Valerian root
Medical grade sativa (amazing sleep) and highly recommended.
Exercise hard throughout the day
Remove stimulants such as coffee and anything containing caffeine
force yourself to sleep before 10pm
Eat a balanced plant based diet high in carbohydrates and greens, and low in fat.
Good tips. I would choose an indica rather than sativa but both will work. Pot is the best sleep aid I found. I would use it every night but I need a day off every so often so that it still has the magic.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
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There's a lot here and I didn't read, so I'll be brief in case it was covered:
You need sleep 8 hours a day until you're about 50-60, then it's 6. It's all about replicable habits, because that's all life is. If every day is a new experience, it's exciting and interesting, but it disrupts habits, like sleep.
Look into "sleep hygiene," because you are probably missing out on a LOT. Treat your sleep as Holy and do what you can to keep it protected from day to day life.
Furthermore, get it when you fucking can! Don't be afraid to become unreliable on things unrelated to survival if you are suffering a medical condition
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Stonehenge]
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This may seem counter-intuitive, but Im certain it will work. Get up super early one day, smoke some meth, just a little. Now repeat this every day for a week or two. Now keep getting up early, but dont do any more meth. When the meth withdrawel kicks in, youll be sleeping 8 solid hours, no problem.
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^ very very very bad advice.
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OP, regarding your nose blocking on one side, has anyone checked your septum for misalignment?
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Stonehenge]
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I mean come on, telling someone to smoke meth to beat insomnia?
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Thats like telling someone with ADD to take lots of stimulatants to stay focused.
its just crazy!
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said: Thats like telling someone with ADD to take lots of stimulatants to stay focused.
its just crazy!
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Stonehenge said: ^ very very very bad advice.
lets see how you like it lol
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Lol, maybe we should run over those brats?
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Its not funny, I was being pretty mean to you.
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Ow, ooh, stop stop, I can't take it anymore. You are so mean.
I didn't intend to be mean to you but telling people to use meth when they have insomnia? Someone might try it and get arrested in a psychotic state.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Stonehenge]
#22190185 - 09/04/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well I dont buy your propaganda but I support your right to express your opinion. I take it youve never even tried meth.
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Stonehenge
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I've used speed, not meth. It seems nice but its a dangerous drug. I get high on jesus.
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jahrastafareye
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Stonehenge]
#22190252 - 09/04/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So why offer advice on something youve never tried? Thats like a virgin telling people not to bang hookers.
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jahrastafareye
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cybrbeast
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Well guys, just woke up after a 4 hour sleep (no drugs) with this pretty cool dream I guess: http://futuretribe.space/dreams/
Still 4 hours is not enough, means I'm still on the path to a mental institution. Gonna try an afternoon nap with GHB.
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Stonehenge
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You aught to try jebus.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22190403 - 09/04/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It sounds like you have Non-24-hour sleep-wake disorder. I think that I have this. Basically, your biological clock is not on a 24 hour schedule, causing you to sleep later and later each night then during the day, etc.
I have chronic insomnia. I am like Shroomslip. I have tried everything and nothing works except drugs. I take benzos for sleep, but they don't always work. I have experienced psychosis from staying up for days. It sucks so bad. I wouldn't wish insomnia on my worst enemy.
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jahrastafareye
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Stonehenge]
#22190423 - 09/04/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I cant, I dont want to get arrested in a psychotic state.
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cybrbeast
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jahrastafareye said: I cant, I dont want to get arrested in a psychotic state.
Same, terrified of being thrown into isolation again, still have some form of PTSD from those 11 days.
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triptrailblazer
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Beanhead] 1
#28372114 - 06/24/23 01:18 AM (7 months, 2 days ago) |
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I had been experiencing insomnia over the last 3 years and the only effective option at getting me to sleep was stillnox (ambien). my issue was more about initiating sleep rather than staying asleep.
last week I took two strong doses of shrooms on consecutive nights. each time with headphones on in a dark room with my eyes closed. the trips were incredible in and of themselves. i think the headphones triangulated the music in the middle of head, and I felt that I was a part of the music. incredible experience.
the follow on effect was an enduring sense of calmness (in very trying circumstances) and in the week since I can barely remember my head hitting the pillow for the last week.
I figure that the dark room and closed eyes prevent the visual system from corrupting the trip, allowing the shrooms to work their magic with the music.
it’s hard to describe but what I saw was like the music was a fluid and the singers voice was so clear. every inflection and every emotion clear.
that’s my set and setting for the foreseeable future.
even if your sleep doesn’t improve, you’ll have the best musical experience of your life.
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That sounds incredible! Thank you for sharing. Thats the best way to experience music in my opinion.
Ive had some insomnia a couple times (im sure we all have). The best things that helped were reading a fictional book and playing video games. Both would wear out my mind to the point, i had to sleep. At least for me, it works.
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