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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: cybrbeast] 1
#22186851 - 09/04/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Please read your post again and tell me how you think that's going to help Shroomslip in the slightest. He'll possibly fall asleep for 4 hours and end up dead if he mixes it with anything else? Seriously? That sounds like good advice to you? Not to mention you're advocating for him to take an extremely addictive sedative EVERY NIGHT for insomnia?
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22186860 - 09/04/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: The phrase "have you tried" literally fucking makes my eye twitch. I will give him credit though, it's the first time anyone's asked me that.
No I haven't, and don't need to. It's a sedative, less extreme and better sedatives conducive to sleep exist, one of which I'm on. GHB is going to do nothing more for me then what I'm on now.
Sorry man, I know where you are coming from. I'm currently fighting insomnia hard, if I fail I'll end up manic and in a mental institution. This worked wonders for me in the past. It is a prescribed drug in extreme cases as I linked to above.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: cybrbeast]
#22186873 - 09/04/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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SS, Do you have like a crazy high tolerance to benzos or something?
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22186880 - 09/04/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tons of exercise during the day in sunlight and fresh air combined with valerian root at bed time, occasional Diphenhydramine and even more occasionally etizolam or benzo perhaps.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Moonshoe]
#22186889 - 09/04/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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What kind VR do you recommend Moonshoe? The shit I bought from kroger sucks absolutely donkey balls
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: cybrbeast]
#22186892 - 09/04/15 08:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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She could've just been doctor shopping.
thats why im saying they act too much like cops instead of doctors. she either IS doctor shopping or she isn't, these docs are trying to play detective and people in pain are going unhelped. if she goes in with pain, its the doctors job that she leaves with some kind of answer to help it. she said she had the pain for 5 years, chronic pain. until its proven that she is doctor shopping, he should act like a doctor, not nanny state police doctor
and the way they don't help you without specifically telling them shit, you will always sound like a drug seeker because you will have to ask for pain meds to ever get them
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#22186900 - 09/04/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just buy whatever valerian extract I find at safeway or shoppers drug mart then take twice the recommended dose. You can also get it with passionflower in it which is good but is a mild MAOI,
kava also can help. L theanine. Chamomile, california poppy,
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: cybrbeast] 1
#22186908 - 09/04/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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One of my main problems with sleep is the fact that I wake up after 2-4 hours. If GHB is going to have me waking up after 4 hours, it's not much help to me. I have a fucked up brain that prevents me from obtaining the nessecary sleep to function. Falling asleep is a huge problem, but staying asleep is just as huge of a problem.
I unfortunately know what psychosis from a lack of sleep is like.. GHB may (and I even kinda doubt that) knock me out every night as planned, but after awhile those few hours of sleep are going to add up. My current medicine may not knock me out all the time, but at least when I do sleep, it's for enough hours to offshoot the psychosis. I may not sleep every night, but I sleep enough for enough time, that I don't go fucking crazy again.Quote:
Malcolm_Xtasy said: SS, Do you have like a crazy high tolerance to benzos or something?
I have a natural tolerance to all medicine. One of the main issues. Drugs in classes I've never taken before I've had to take double or triple the dose most people have to take to achieve similar results. Whether recreation or medicinal.
Most of the drugs that knock people out, do next to nothing to me. The ones that DO effect me, are the "last resort" ones, and always at max dose. Truth be told, if I didn't take my current medicine with alcohol, it would have no effect on me. I can't go telling my doctor that, but I can take my max dose of benzo and won't feel shit. I don't even use it by itself. I take with benadryl as well.
I dunno if I was born this way, or if it was because my grandparents (raised me) had me on sleeping meds since before I can remember. I'm kinda guessing the latter. Whatever the reason, this is who I am now and I have to deal with it.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Shroomslip] 1
#22186909 - 09/04/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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There is a fatal prion disease in humans that kills people through insomnia
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22186916 - 09/04/15 08:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stop taking meth
Also I've found melatonin to be useful for regulating my sleep cycle. Also I sometimes use an herbal tea from Yogi Tea called Bedtime tea I think. It works well for helping me reach sleepy time.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: ryanriot]
#22186927 - 09/04/15 08:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ive had insomnia since I was a kid what used to help me is smoking weed and watching a movie I enjoy but seen a thousand times and I would fall asleep. I havnt smoked weed in a year because of this job im trying to get so I havnt been sleeping really well ive been up for over 24 hours as I type this but im starting to get tired and will probably fall asleep in a lil bit, hopefully.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8] 1
#22186947 - 09/04/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Get this book called The Rabbit who wanted to sleep and make someone read it to you every night.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Rabbit-Wants-Fall-Asleep/dp/149617951X
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22186970 - 09/04/15 09:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: One of my main problems with sleep is the fact that I wake up after 2-4 hours. If GHB is going to have me waking up after 4 hours, it's not much help to me. I have a fucked up brain that prevents me from obtaining the nessecary sleep to function. Falling asleep is a huge problem, but staying asleep is just as huge of a problem.
I unfortunately know what psychosis from a lack of sleep is like.. GHB may (and I even kinda doubt that) knock me out every night as planned, but after awhile those few hours of sleep are going to add up. My current medicine may not knock me out all the time, but at least when I do sleep, it's for enough hours to offshoot the psychosis. I may not sleep every night, but I sleep enough for enough time, that I don't go fucking crazy again.Quote:
Malcolm_Xtasy said: SS, Do you have like a crazy high tolerance to benzos or something?
I have a natural tolerance to all medicine. One of the main issues. Drugs in classes I've never taken before I've had to take double or triple the dose most people have to take to achieve similar results. Whether recreation or medicinal.
Most of the drugs that knock people out, do next to nothing to me. The ones that DO effect me, are the "last resort" ones, and always at max dose. Truth be told, if I didn't take my current medicine with alcohol, it would have no effect on me. I can't go telling my doctor that, but I can take my max dose of benzo and won't feel shit. I don't even use it by itself. I take with benadryl as well.
I dunno if I was born this way, or if it was because my grandparents (raised me) had me on sleeping meds since before I can remember. I'm kinda guessing the latter. Whatever the reason, this is who I am now and I have to deal with it.
Well if you take it a prescribed some people are able to have two 4 hour sessions back to back.
http://www.drugs.com/xyrem.html
Usual Adult Dose for Narcolepsy:
Initial dose: 4.5 grams orally per night administered in two equal, divided doses of 2.25 g at bedtime and 2.25 g administered 2.5 to 4 hours later. Maintenance dose: Increase the dose by 1.5 g orally per night at weekly intervals (additional 0.75 g at bedtime and 0.75 g administered 2.5 to 4 hours later) to the dose range of 6 g to 9 g per night. Maximum dose: 9 g orally per night
Uses: Treatment of cataplexy in narcolepsy and excessive daytime sleepiness (EDS) in narcolepsy
Xyrem must be taken at bedtime and again two and a half to four hours later. This medicine works very fast and should be taken while you are sitting in bed ready for sleep. Prepare both doses while you are getting ready for bed. Place the second dose next to your bed so you can take it without getting up. You will most likely need to set an alarm to awaken for the second dose.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: cybrbeast] 1
#22186985 - 09/04/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't have narcolepsy. My doctor is already monitoring me for high blood pressure, heart disease runs in my family. I really doubt my doctor is certified to prescribe it.
Then let's be honest, I'm on this site because I love drugs. There's no way I'd use it responsibly, the only reason I can use my medication responsibly is because I see no recreational value in it. I'm also an alcoholic and doubt that would mix well with GHB.
Thanks for the idea, but really, there are many reasons why it's a bad idea or not possible.
Also my eye is still twitching from "have you tried".
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22187040 - 09/04/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you truly can't use drugs responsibly then I think you shouldn't be on this site, and go to Erowid instead, and read that until you can use them responsibly.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: cybrbeast] 2
#22187047 - 09/04/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You're just full of great ideas this morning aren't ya?
If people who didn't use drugs responsibly were banned from this site then the shroomery would just be a shell of itself
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: cybrbeast]
#22187063 - 09/04/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You're talking about two different responsibles. The one in which you're referring to, the recreational sense, I can do. I still have all my toes. But a purely medical responsibility? Come the fuck on.. I like drugs. If I have something with high recreational value, I'm not going to be using it in a pure medication status. No one is. If someone loves to experiment with drugs, and finds recreation in some drug they're prescribed, it won't be long before they're abusing it. Doesn't mean they'll end up dead or under a freeway overpass strung out, but it's going to start becoming more of a high than therapy. Anyone who believes otherwise is naive or in denial.
Certain people can use Xanax responsibly, because they don't see recreation in it. You best not give me a script for that shit though.
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22187184 - 09/04/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: The phrase "have you tried" literally fucking makes my eye twitch. I will give him credit though, it's the first time anyone's asked me that.
No I haven't, and don't need to. It's a sedative, less extreme and better sedatives conducive to sleep exist, one of which I'm on. GHB is going to do nothing more for me then what I'm on now.
All about dosage.
it's the pinnacle of sleep, is not abrassive against sleep cycles and is the only endogenous hormone i've used that makes me wake up refreshed. You take it you close your eyes you wake up in the morning. But yeah if you go junkiestyle rather then sort your issue out, your loss (mine too)
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Beanhead]
#22187222 - 09/04/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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A junkie would do whatever he could to secure those drugs. The very fact I won't tempt myself with such things would seem to suggest otherwise.
I know I'd love heroin, but refuse to ever touch it because of what will happen, does that make me a heroin junky?
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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way. I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today. Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear. I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear. You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline
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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22187314 - 09/04/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good thing I read your post cause I wanted to suggest exercise 
Insomnia must be terrible. When I worked night-shifts I had a crooked sleep schedule but no more than that. I am assuming the lack of sleep makes you just as tired as everybody else but without the eventual release of actual sleeping?
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