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What is spirituality?
    #22184365 - 09/03/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Vague question I know but I have to start somewhere to get a grip on this. What is it though? I talk to people about it and get many different responses about what it is. How do you know when you have had a spiritual experience?

So far what I can recall was hearing voices as a child, they would call my name and sometimes they sounded like family. This went away after some time. I have had a few dreams that told the future as a teenager. Also the feeling when you're falling in a dream and crashing awake.

But the one memory I have is of battle. I remember everything fading to black and grey as the roar of battle dimmed, the banners and soldiers fading. Then a rush of bright light like coming out of a tunnel at full speed and I'm in the world again.

I can't seem to forget that, to this day it's still in my mind.


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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22184412 - 09/03/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

To me, the term "spirituality" refers to how one fits into the universe (or multiverse). A person or people with a higher degree of spirituality can be said to be more intimately tied to the workings of nature, or even to those beyond nature, potentially.


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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22185420 - 09/03/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think spirituality is founded on honesty..just going with the flow and saying whats on your mind and stuff..


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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #22185997 - 09/04/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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To me, the term "spirituality" refers to how one fits into the universe (or multiverse). A person or people with a higher degree of spirituality can be said to be more intimately tied to the workings of nature, or even to those beyond nature, potentially.




I agree with this. For me also it is about loving life rather than just loving the pleasures of life.


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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22189490 - 09/04/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

My belief is that spirituality is the human condition of subjective hope to ignore the truth that life is not eternal.


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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: sudly] * 1
    #22189505 - 09/04/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Sudly, I'm not a mod, but you'll want to watch being critical like that in this forum.  A comment like that is more suited for PS&P.

Just sayin'.


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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22189671 - 09/04/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The realization of the connection between everything. Human's stopped looking inward and forgot what they are.


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    We suffer from a hallucination, from a false and distorted sensation of our own existence as living organisms. Most of us have the sensation that “I myself” is a separate center of feeling and action, living inside and bounded by the physical body — a center which “confronts” an “external” world of people and things, making contact through the senses with a universe both alien and strange. Everyday figures of speech reflect this illusion. “I came into this world.” “You must face reality.” “The conquest of nature.”

    This feeling of being lonely and very temporary visitors in the universe is in flat contradiction to everything known about man (and all other living organisms) in the sciences. We do not “come into” this world; we come out of it, as leaves from a tree. As the ocean “waves,” the universe “peoples.” Every individual is an expression of the whole realm of nature, a unique action of the total universe. This fact is rarely, if ever, experienced by most individuals. Even those who know it to be true in theory do not sense or feel it, but continue to be aware of themselves as isolated “egos” inside bags of skin.




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TO alleviate pain, to try to remove its causes, are worthy of man. All the same, we must know that a great part of our sufferings has to be ascribed to the beginning of our entrance into a new plane of existence to which our vital nature has not been completely adapted nor our mind thoroughly accustomed. From a narrow perfection of animality man has arrived in the imperfectness of spiritual life, where the civil war between the forces of our primitive past and those belonging to our future has robbed us of peace. Not having reached its normal stage humanity is enveloped in the incandescent vapour of suffering.




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    SPIRITUAL life is the emancipation of consciousness. Through it we find immediate response of soul everywhere. Before we attain this life, we see men through the medium of self-interest, prejudice or classification, because of the perpetual remoteness around us which we cannot cross over. When the veil is removed, we not only see the fleeting forms of the world, but come close to its eternal being, which is ineffable beauty.

    Some seek for the evidence of spiritual truth in the outside world. In this quest one may stumble upon ghosts or some super-sensual phenomenon of nature, but these do not lead us to spiritual truth, as new words in a dictionary do not give us literature.




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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22189794 - 09/04/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

First off I said it was my belief, my comment was not personalised at anyone and was also light in any respect.


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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: sudly]
    #22191448 - 09/05/15 05:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well I believe it is a pretty vacuous belief.


In response to the op,

Spirituality is life, and anything that has to with living.


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1.
having life; being alive; not dead:
living persons.
2.
in actual existence or use; extant:
living languages.
3.
active or thriving; vigorous; strong:
a living faith.
4.
burning or glowing, as a coal.
5.
flowing freely, as water.
6.
pertaining to, suitable for, or sufficient for existence or subsistence:
living conditions; a living wage.
7.
of or relating to living persons:
within living memory.




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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: zZZz]
    #22191683 - 09/05/15 07:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's overly sensitive of you to say..


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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: sudly]
    #22192990 - 09/05/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I wonder at the degree of the quality and color of light we have fabricated through existence..We receive light by the carrying of Photons..which are in Arrays..and thats how we get our existence.. Because we are dependent on the(Vernal)Sun(autumnal).. Reasons to believe..is a carrying case to the Lord...which in good comedy is a nuance in the disaster of time...we merge with nature..but it has powerful elements..to understand that and control..is the objective of spirituality...to attain power and immortality..and the Mason Control..system..is based on big science...Charts..and Maps..Tabernacles..from the Moon(Church)..or Cathedrals..Beautiful Designs..!


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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #22206134 - 09/08/15 08:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If it's about our place in the universe, isnt it true that we have no place? That it's just us thinking we have some kind of role in it?


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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22206878 - 09/08/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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If it's about our place in the universe, isnt it true that we have no place? That it's just us thinking we have some kind of role in it?



I don't know how you could suggest that we have no place in the universe. I don't pretend to fully understand how it all works but I'm pretty damned sure I have a place in the universe. I have a consciouness that can observe it and my intellect tells me that my body is composed of the stuff of the universe.

I'd say that tells me pretty loud and clear that I have a place here.


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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #22207084 - 09/08/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Meaninglessness and non-eternal visions of personal consciousness are very convincing positions, especially without the data of things like out of body experience. :justdontknow: Can't blame anyone for having that position, but maybe if they deliberately choose to be more sensitive to life they will gradually build evidence for a more optimistic position.


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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: circastes]
    #22207161 - 09/08/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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maybe if they deliberately choose to be more sensitive to life they will gradually build evidence for a more optimistic position.



I think that's a really good point man.


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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22207226 - 09/08/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, good post circastes :smile:


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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: deff]
    #22207686 - 09/08/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

More sensitive to life? What does that mean?


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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22207821 - 09/08/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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If it's about our place in the universe, isnt it true that we have no place? That it's just us thinking we have some kind of role in it?




if that were the case you'd just be walking the earth not caring about anything, like whether you live or die, you wouldnt even bother thinking about death or life. you'd just go about ur life living.


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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #22207876 - 09/08/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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What does that mean?



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What does that mean?




WHY!?!??


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Re: What is spirituality? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22207891 - 09/08/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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More sensitive to life? What does that mean?




If everything is, as you say in all these threads, so ultimately meaningless, then what is it, exactly, that is keeping you from killing yourself?


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