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Psilosopherr
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Achillita said: I wonder if you could use the blue honey to make psychdelic mead
now we're talkin. There's no part of the brewing process I'm aware of that would harm anything.
Plus there's a certain kind of honey, called mad honey I believe. It is made from certain flowers which cause the honey to have an intoxicating effect. Use THAT to make blue honey. And maybe take the result on to make mead
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That is a really cool idea! Oh man Im jealous I didn't think of it! Somebody try it.
Any who, I haven't made my honey yet I got distracted. But I still have those 2lbs of mediocre mushrooms waiting for it, and now that its fall I can find a big jug of cheap honey when I go get pumpkins
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Re: Mushroom honey [Re: mushpunx]
#22306838 - 09/29/15 06:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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As an avid mead brewer, making mead out of blue honey is a thought that crossed my mind more than once! However, outside of the cool-factor, I think it's highly impractical.
First off, making the blue honey takes quite a bit of time. Maybe a few months even. Then making mead out of that can, again, take months to years. In that stretch of time, you could have easily grown, dried and used countless batches. The mead doesn't really carry any added benefits, so I don't see why you would go through the trouble.
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Psilosopherr
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Re: Mushroom honey [Re: mushpunx]
#22306839 - 09/29/15 06:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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mushpunx said: That is a really cool idea! Oh man Im jealous I didn't think of it! Somebody try it.
Any who, I haven't made my honey yet I got distracted. But I still have those 2lbs of mediocre mushrooms waiting for it, and now that its fall I can find a big jug of cheap honey when I go get pumpkins
you might not need as much as you think. I filled a pint jar with one little bottle of honey.
the mushies were kind of floating but hopefully they'll sink when they get waterlogged
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I made some honey a few months ago with dried cubensis. I used 16 grams powdered and mixed it with honey. Filled a half pint jar and let it sit. The powder kept rising to the top so I would turn the jar like once or twice a day. Now about 2 months later it seems to have stopped settling.
My only concern was this frothy layer I kept getting. It reminded me of creamed honey which does go bad. I opened like 2 days ago to check it out and it seems ok. Was thinking about refrigerating it but I'm not sure. I made it for long term storage, like 5-10 years or in case of apocalypse so hopefully it stays good.
Here is the thread from when I made it like 2 months ago.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21942816
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I don't think powdering the mushrooms is the best thing to do, I think you kinda wanna just break them into crumbs?
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Re: Mushroom honey [Re: mushpunx]
#22311332 - 09/29/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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How would putting dry shrooms in honey do anything other than preserve the shrooms by saturating them with honey? How would you get blue honey from dried mushrooms? When you blend them up they don't turn blue, like fresh ones, so how would honey "leech" blue out of them? Makes no sense unless you use fresh mushrooms.
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Psilosopherr
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wowimflabbergasted said: How would putting dry shrooms in honey do anything other than preserve the shrooms by saturating them with honey? How would you get blue honey from dried mushrooms? When you blend them up they don't turn blue, like fresh ones, so how would honey "leech" blue out of them? Makes no sense unless you use fresh mushrooms.
psilocybin is more soluble in water than anything else. Honey contains water (I assume)
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wowimflabbergasted
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What does that mean
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mushpunx
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wowimflabbergasted said: What does that mean
It means the psilocybin will leech out into the honey
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Re: Mushroom honey [Re: mushpunx]
#22316384 - 09/30/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I made blue honey once. I let it sit for over a year and it never turned blue. I used dry shrooms though. I don't think that the psilocybin was evenly distributed. I ate a bunch of it (should have been equivalent to 7 g of dry cubes) and I barely tripped off of it. IMO, it's better to just eat the shrooms without the honey.
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Honey contains much less water than you'd think: how the 'essence' makes it into the honey is that the honey sucks the moisture out of anything you put in it that has MORE water than it does. It pretty much *IS* how honey gets to be effective as a preservative: it desiccates.
Any rotting would have to be the work of bacteria introduced WITH the shrooms AND too much moisture. As the honey becomes less hygroscopic (ambient water-sponge-ish), the remaining moisture gets pulled out of the tissues but remains pooled around the tissues creating a 'rot zone'. In a jar full of fresh shrooms w/ just enough honey to cover, the rot zone would quickly become the whole jar.
Makes sense that if you wanted to, you'd chunk the shrooms up then let them MOSTLY dry in minimal oxygen. At that point I think you could add the shrooms to the honey at 50%+ honey & ~40% shroomage. By keeping it stirred - and adding more honey to thicken as necessary - it seems like it ought to work out fine without the rot.
Only a thought experiment to keep the little gray cells awake...
Anybody try sclerotia in honey?
(such an old thread - hope this is sufficiently OT)
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Wtf dude no.... Don't dredge up skeletons.
Start a new thread and carry over any info from this thread you want.
Total party foul.
Good topic that gets brought up regularly, however! Start a fresh one I'll add to it.
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Psilosopherr
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Steveinshell said: Wtf dude no.... Don't dredge up skeletons.
Start a new thread and carry over any info from this thread you want.
Total party foul.
Good topic that gets brought up regularly, however! Start a fresh one I'll add to it.
I'm pretty sure you're just parroting what you've heard elsewhere. This hating on thread necromancy is needless nitpicking IMO.
I mean what harm is it doing? We spend far more time bitching about it than we do being inconvenienced by it. 
That said I hate how much BS'ing and needless bumping takes place in long-term cultivation threads like the offical stone producer/pan threads among others. I have a thread in my journal that is simply all the relevant information from those MONSTER threads condensed down, its like a couple paragraphs
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Psilosopherr
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Cranial Feature said: Honey contains much less water than you'd think: how the 'essence' makes it into the honey is that the honey sucks the moisture out of anything you put in it that has MORE water than it does. It pretty much *IS* how honey gets to be effective as a preservative: it desiccates.
Any rotting would have to be the work of bacteria introduced WITH the shrooms AND too much moisture. As the honey becomes less hygroscopic (ambient water-sponge-ish), the remaining moisture gets pulled out of the tissues but remains pooled around the tissues creating a 'rot zone'. In a jar full of fresh shrooms w/ just enough honey to cover, the rot zone would quickly become the whole jar.
Makes sense that if you wanted to, you'd chunk the shrooms up then let them MOSTLY dry in minimal oxygen. At that point I think you could add the shrooms to the honey at 50%+ honey & ~40% shroomage. By keeping it stirred - and adding more honey to thicken as necessary - it seems like it ought to work out fine without the rot.
Only a thought experiment to keep the little gray cells awake...
Anybody try sclerotia in honey?
(such an old thread - hope this is sufficiently OT)
I like the way you phrased that, makes sense to me. I've still got my jar o' honey maybe I'll see how its going
Would be fairly practical, just re-heat to liquid state to use, or eat when dry obviously. Especially with how revered they were in the old world, that'd be worth some honey to preserve.
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Will this seriously work? Like if I take 3 grams and let them soak in the honey for lets say a week. Then remove shrooms and eat all the honey?
Seems easier to just grind the shrooms up, mix with juice and drink
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Re: Mushroom honey [Re: Ant89]
#24460039 - 07/05/17 07:02 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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agreed, I've been reading "The wondrous mushroom" lately and it has a chapter about the mushroom stones from central america. Supposedly used to grind the mushroom up and mix with water to drink.
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Ya, grinding them up helps your body break down the shrooms faster. Even chopping them in small pieces
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Re: Mushroom honey [Re: Ant89]
#24460725 - 07/06/17 12:06 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sure it's easier to grind it up and drink it but that gets boring after awhile...
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