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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods]
#22182990 - 09/03/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: Net illegal immigration into the US is a negative number. More illegals leave the US than arrive. Trumps stupid fences would make it harder for them to leave
What a fucking retard he is. Spend billions of dollars on a useless fence.
When we deport them all, the fence won't be useless.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: zappaisgod]
#22183000 - 09/03/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: The US has never had an influx of illegal immigration that even approaches this
We have around 20 million illegals here now.
Even if your number wasn't inflated by 100% those immigrants have arrive over decades. There's is no crisis in America. Our illegal population is decreasing, not exploding like in europe
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods]
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods] 1
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koods said: The US has never had an influx of illegal immigration that even approaches this
We have around 20 million illegals here now.
Even if your number wasn't inflated by 100% those immigrants have arrive over decades. There's is no crisis in America. Our illegal population is decreasing, not exploding like in europe
"There's is no crisis in America"
You don't see it, but having 20-30 million illegals in the US is a crisis.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods]
#22183024 - 09/03/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: The US has never had an influx of illegal immigration that even approaches this
Many people predict the European Union is going to break up. I guess we will find out.
1st poster does not know american history.
2nd poster has a very possible prediction.
When has the us had to absorb 100,000 refugees a month? Never.
We welcomed a lot of people. None of these people are welcome.
Shitty reasoning.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: DurgaDurg]
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: qman] 7
#22183033 - 09/03/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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20-30 million. You guys can't even stick to facts.
And no it's not a crisis. The crisis would be deporting them: a major food crisis. A major economic crisis. They are an integral part of our economy. It's kind of scary that people are so full of hate that they are willing to destroy the US economy just to exact revenge on people they don't like because of racism.
This is just another example of the pussyfication of America. We call a bunch of Mexicans looking for day work at Home Depot "a crisis" meanwhile in Europe, scores of dead bodies wash up on the shores everyday.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: zappaisgod]
#22183054 - 09/03/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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And koods is full of shit. There are still more coming than leaving and they aren't all mexicans by a long shot
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: zappaisgod]
#22183062 - 09/03/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: And koods is full of shit. There are still more coming than leaving and they aren't all mexicans by a long shot
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/20/us/politics/facing-the-facts-on-illegal-immigration.html?_r=0
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•Net migration from Mexico is negative, many experts say; more people are returning to Mexico than are illegally crossing the border into the United States.
•There are 11 million undocumented immigrants in the United States, down from more than 12 million in 2007. The downward trend began in the final year of the George W. Bush administration.
•More undocumented immigrants have been deported under Mr. Obama than under any other president. This number is down now, because of complaints from pro-immigration groups that the policy was too zealous and because of the president’s administrative actions exempting millions from deportation.
Btw, from Mexico doesn't mean just Mexicans. It means crossing the Mexican border.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods]
#22183067 - 09/03/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: 20-30 million. You guys can't even stick to facts.
And no it's not a crisis. The crisis would be deporting them: a major food crisis. A major economic crisis. They are an integral part of our economy. It's kind of scary that people are so full of hate that they are willing to destroy the US economy just to exact revenge on people they don't like because of racism.
This is just another example of the pussyfication of America. We call a bunch of Mexicans looking for day work at Home Depot "a crisis" meanwhile in Europe, scores of dead bodies wash up on the shores everyday.
The shit state of the American labor market is the crisis here. Dead refugees is due to a state of crisis in Muslim countries. Isn't it odd that the refugees are almost exclusively fleeing Muslims countries?
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: zappaisgod] 3
#22183076 - 09/03/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's almost entirely due to Islam.
This country would be in full blown hysteria if we had 100,000 Muslims streaming over the border every month.
And let's not forget Europe is someone protected by a sea separating it from Africa. It doesn't have a vast land border like we do with Mexico
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods]
#22183079 - 09/03/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: And koods is full of shit. There are still more coming than leaving and they aren't all mexicans by a long shot
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/20/us/politics/facing-the-facts-on-illegal-immigration.html?_r=0
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•Net migration from Mexico is negative, many experts say; more people are returning to Mexico than are illegally crossing the border into the United States.
•There are 11 million undocumented immigrants in the United States, down from more than 12 million in 2007. The downward trend began in the final year of the George W. Bush administration.
•More undocumented immigrants have been deported under Mr. Obama than under any other president. This number is down now, because of complaints from pro-immigration groups that the policy was too zealous and because of the president’s administrative actions exempting millions from deportation.
Btw, from Mexico doesn't mean just Mexicans. It means crossing the Mexican border.
So they're leaving because they're being deported. They'll come back.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods]
#22183080 - 09/03/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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And no it's not a crisis. The crisis would be deporting them: a major food crisis. A major economic crisis. They are an integral part of our economy. It's kind of scary that people are so full of hate that they are willing to destroy the US economy just to exact revenge on people they don't like because of racism.
"a major food crisis"
Total nonsense.
"A major economic crisis"
Yeah, those 50 million unemployed working eligible US citizens could never fill the void. I guess all of money saved on government expenses for welfare, health care, education, food stamps, and criminal justice will just be a disaster. 
"because of racism"
Nope, if we had more jobs available than people (which is not the case), bringing them in legally would make sense, this is about economics not race.
To people like you, using an "ism" is just a way of life.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods]
#22183089 - 09/03/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: It's almost entirely due to Islam.
This country would be in full blown hysteria if we had 100,000 Muslims streaming over the border every month.
I don't know that hysteria would be an apt description of the response. We do tend to be armed
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods]
#22183107 - 09/03/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The world is not fair. I has never been. It is getting fairer every year, but it'll take many centuries.
15 out 200 countries got their shit together. They got their shit together due to solid management. The rest clearly cant get their shit together.
I understand that these people want to leave their country to go to a better place. I get it. I would do the same. But if we dont want 200 countries in chaos, some rules have to be followed. Rule 1 is to have a border. If Canada for example allowed in everyone who applied this year, next year we would have 100 million people and the year after that 250.... Then by year 3, we are no better than an african country.
Instead of leaving the problems, if they unite, they can maybe try and fix it. Look at Europe. 5000 years of constant wars. Death in the billions. Now half the continent are solid allies. Despite the trouble they are in, they are still holding on together. The balance is already fragile enough. If they let half of syria in, everybody in Europe will lose.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: qman] 1
#22183113 - 09/03/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Look at what happened in Alabama when they cracked down on illegal farm workers. They lost hundred of millions of dollars in agriculture products.
It's one thing thing to argue about what might theoretically happen if we deport all the illegals. But we KNOW what would happen, and it isn't pretty.
http://mic.com/articles/8272/alabama-illegal-immigrant-crackdown-destroys-farm-business
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On Sunday, the Associated Press reported worker shortages have prompted some Alabama farmers who grow labor-intensive produce to plant less, rather than have crops rot in the fields again this year. Last fall Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley signed a tough law combating illegal immigration, which prompted undocumented workers to flee the state. Few locals will perform the grueling work of picking crops, and farmers stuck in a agricultural system built on illegal labor are struggling to find replacements before their produce rots.
Alabama’s situation is not unique. Georgia passed a similar immigration law in 2011. When undocumented workers fled, farmers lost around 40% of their workers and $140 million worth of blueberries, melons, onions, and other crops due to labor shortages. This year Georgia farmers again fear they will be short on workers to pick the crops, and many have scaled back production or stopped planting altogether.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods] 1
#22183126 - 09/03/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: Look at what happened in Alabama when they cracked down on illegal farm workers. They lost hundred of millions of dollars in agriculture products.
It's one thing thing to argue about what might theoretically happen if we deport all the illegals. But we KNOW what would happen, and it isn't pretty.
http://mic.com/articles/8272/alabama-illegal-immigrant-crackdown-destroys-farm-business
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On Sunday, the Associated Press reported worker shortages have prompted some Alabama farmers who grow labor-intensive produce to plant less, rather than have crops rot in the fields again this year. Last fall Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley signed a tough law combating illegal immigration, which prompted undocumented workers to flee the state. Few locals will perform the grueling work of picking crops, and farmers stuck in a agricultural system built on illegal labor are struggling to find replacements before their produce rots.
Alabama’s situation is not unique. Georgia passed a similar immigration law in 2011. When undocumented workers fled, farmers lost around 40% of their workers and $140 million worth of blueberries, melons, onions, and other crops due to labor shortages. This year Georgia farmers again fear they will be short on workers to pick the crops, and many have scaled back production or stopped planting altogether.
WOW, a whole $140 million, run for the hills. 
Guess what? Hire an American, problem solved. Let me guess, they don't want to pay the higher wage because it dents their profit margin, why are you so concerned with the huge profits of the wealthy?
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#22183133 - 09/03/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's disturbing that qman wouldn't rather have millions of Americans starve to death so he doesn't have to see brown people at his Home Depot.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods]
#22183134 - 09/03/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: 20-30 million. You guys can't even stick to facts.
And no it's not a crisis. The crisis would be deporting them: a major food crisis. A major economic crisis. They are an integral part of our economy. It's kind of scary that people are so full of hate that they are willing to destroy the US economy just to exact revenge on people they don't like because of racism.
This is just another example of the pussyfication of America. We call a bunch of Mexicans looking for day work at Home Depot "a crisis" meanwhile in Europe, scores of dead bodies wash up on the shores everyday.
I think more people are concerned by the fact that they don't pay taxes rather than the fact that they are trying to find work at home depot. I don't want illegals in the US and it has absolutely nothing to do with race. Its more that they use our schools, our roads (where they crash into you with no insurance), jails, bridges, ect. and they don't pay for any of it. They could become citizens legally and contribute, but that's not what they 're looking for.
You know it is kind of racist to assume that the only illegals are Mexican, I've met illegal white Canadians too. Just because there is a crisis in Europe doesn't mean there can't be one here too. It is possible to have more than one crisis going on.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: Lophosaurus] 2
#22183144 - 09/03/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The fuck they don't pay taxes. They pay sales taxes and property taxes. Most people who earn under $11 an hour don't pay income taxes, illegal or not.
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