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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22199561 - 09/06/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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ShootinD5nukes said: http://hhsa-pg.sdcounty.ca.gov/CalWORKS/45-200/Resources_and_Desk_Aids/Reception_and_Placement_%28R_and_P%29_Desk_Aid.pdf
I was lucky enough to find something about the refugee cash assistance program. It talks a little bit about lump sums there which is what I have been trying to show you. Further more that's for cali. I'd like to find that for florida
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"As the U.S. government struggles to meet the challenge [of hurricane relief], the residents of the Florida Keys struggle to make sense with the constant surge of Cuban "refugees" and the taxpayer-funded benefits extended to them in the case of "dry feet"."Refugee benefits include immediate placement on Medicaid, housing assistance, lump sum cash assistance, food stamps, Federal grants, Supplemental Social Security (age eligible) and a myriad of other taxpayer funded social services."A list of refugee benefits can be found at the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services, Office of Refugee Resettlement website.
http://www.vdare.com/articles/cubans-overrunning-florida-keys-guess-whos-paying-for-it
lump sums such as for hurricane relief funds, kinda like was given to the hurricane katrina victims, victims of other natural disaster and even extended power outages
so once more you fail to solidify your claim
I'm sorry you can't read please find a text to voice program to read this to you. lump sum from refugee cash assistance program. I too can find other programs that give money to people but what the fuck does that have to do with this? I'm saying cubans get that money, what fucking point are you trying to make saying other people get it including hurricane victims? I don't give a fuck if hurricane victims get it they are american I'm talking about fucking cubans dude what the fuck are you bringing up assistance programs for Americans for, I can live with america helping out america it's america giving incentive for cubans to come here that we are talking about. if were just naming programs that the government give people money for I can name a few.
I guess by your definition obama care is the same as what we give cubans. your argument is trash.
your a shit merchant and your arguments are purely trash. I wouldn't normally expect this from a mod, especially you pris. I hope in the next few days we find out your account was hacked because I'm going to lose alot of respect for you with all this bullshit your pedalling.
I'm wrong because America gives America money? Your saying the fact that we give cubans a bunch of money to get a dry foot is the same as welfare. I hope for better arguments from you.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: zappaisgod]
#22199681 - 09/06/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: 40 years ago Americans were picking tobacco. I know because I saw them
Both my uncles were and a third cousin as well. Germans, Italians and other Poles did too.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: zappaisgod]
#22199824 - 09/06/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: lowbrow]
#22206369 - 09/08/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: I still don't see what your talking about. I was referencing that most of them will opt out of the income tax.
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Illegals do not pay income tax, HOWEVER, anybody else who is a citizen of the US and receives a corporate pay check most definitely pays income tax no matter how little they make.
Man up. You said what you said. It was wrong throughout.
Nowhere in any of my posts did I say what you said. Any misinterpretation on your part is just fanciful delusions.
Please quit taking what I said out of context, its fuckin lame.
Then your reading comprehension is as lame as your claim.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: luvdemshrooms] 1
#22206488 - 09/08/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The US labor force participation rate is as low as it has been since the seventies.
The labor participation rate: the last ditch refuge of the Obama hater. Labor participation rate are low for demographic reasons - as the population bubble known as baby boomers retires, the rate decreases. There are just more people in the age group that is currently retiring than in other age groups.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#22206503 - 09/08/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: You need to get the fuck back to Canada. We've had enough of you
Yeah wow Europe is getting a taste of what we've been dealing with for decades. Boofuckinghoo. The difference is they allow it. Idiots
Pretty sure Europe's been dealing with immigration longer than the new world has.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#22206511 - 09/08/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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And these people aren't "migrants," they're refugees.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods]
#22206522 - 09/08/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods] 1
#22206537 - 09/08/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The US labor force participation rate is as low as it has been since the seventies.
The labor participation rate: the last ditch refuge of the Obama hater. Labor participation rate are low for demographic reasons - as the population bubble known as baby boomers retires, the rate decreases. There are just more people in the age group that is currently retiring than in other age groups.
The labor force participation rate does not consider retirees and children. They are not in the labor force. The unemployment rate doesn't either nor does it consider people who have given up or people who have exhausted their benefits. Nor does it acccount for the growing number of part time jobs caused by Obamacare.
Spit out the Obama cock. He is a fucking ignorant economic disaster.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22206541 - 09/08/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: You need to get the fuck back to Canada. We've had enough of you
Yeah wow Europe is getting a taste of what we've been dealing with for decades. Boofuckinghoo. The difference is they allow it. Idiots
Pretty sure Europe's been dealing with immigration longer than the new world has.
Ummmm you might want to look at history. People fled Europe not that long ago. Guess where they fled to.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: shroombasa]
#22206551 - 09/08/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The US labor force participation rate is as low as it has been since the seventies.
The labor participation rate: the last ditch refuge of the Obama hater. Labor participation rate are low for demographic reasons - as the population bubble known as baby boomers retires, the rate decreases. There are just more people in the age group that is currently retiring than in other age groups.
Thank God the Great Atheismo for other people realizing this.
Additionally, this is why immigration is good for the developed world. Low birth rates below replenishment leads to demographics crises when the ratio of the young to old gets too low to support social security programs. Germany stands to benefit by accepting migrants and in a few decades this will be apparent to the rest of the EU.
Those assholes invading Germany are not likely to ever cover the cost of their being there. It is the same deal with the immigrants here. Almost every single one will never provide a net gain to the economy or the tax base.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: zappaisgod]
#22206573 - 09/08/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: shroombasa]
#22206589 - 09/08/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The welfare state in Europe is collapsing because it is riddled with parasites. Adding more parasites is not going to help Europe's economy
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#22206624 - 09/08/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: shroombasa]
#22206699 - 09/08/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/08/business/international/european-farmers-demand-aid-as-produce-prices-sag.html
Collapsing welfare state. China is crumbling. Japan is stable. Africa is a disaster and so is South America. Russia is fucked because of oil prices. But you think the solution is MORE people? Who suck off the tit of productive people?
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: shroombasa] 1
#22206703 - 09/08/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The US labor force participation rate is as low as it has been since the seventies.
The labor participation rate: the last ditch refuge of the Obama hater. Labor participation rate are low for demographic reasons - as the population bubble known as baby boomers retires, the rate decreases. There are just more people in the age group that is currently retiring than in other age groups.
The labor force participation rate does not consider retirees and children. They are not in the labor force. The unemployment rate doesn't either nor does it consider people who have given up or people who have exhausted their benefits. Nor does it acccount for the growing number of part time jobs caused by Obamacare.
Spit out the Obama cock. He is a fucking ignorant economic disaster.
The labor force denominator is the entire population over 16. People who retire decrease the rate because they are no longer included in the numerator (employed or seeking employment) but are still included in the denominator.
http://www.bls.gov/bls/cps_fact_sheets/lfp_mock.htm
It seems like conservatives don't understand math very well. This should help: if you look at the chart, the age groups are broken down. The series starts at 16 and over and ends with 55 and over There is no upper age limit.
There is no excuse for believing that retires don't lower the participation rate - it is spelled out quite clearly on the BLS website.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#22206712 - 09/08/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: The welfare state in Europe is collapsing because it is riddled with parasites. Adding more parasites is not going to help Europe's economy
To be fair... There is some truth to this. The big problem is that in the Netherlands, the current government is hell bent on erradicating the "parasites". This goes as well as anything those clowns in Den-haag come up with (Always a cornucopia of draconian rules) with handicapped people losing their social security, while people who know how to game the system cheerfully continue to do so.
Meanhile, nobody talks about the welfare both corporations and millionairs receive. Makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
Zappa, our countries are the same. Good people, sitty ass corrupt government. Only they call corruption "mistakes". Why this keeps on working I shall never know.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: Turtletotem]
#22207050 - 09/08/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://xplaind.com/927402/labor-force-participation-rate
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: shroombasa]
#22207188 - 09/08/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The US labor force participation rate is as low as it has been since the seventies.
The labor participation rate: the last ditch refuge of the Obama hater. Labor participation rate are low for demographic reasons - as the population bubble known as baby boomers retires, the rate decreases. There are just more people in the age group that is currently retiring than in other age groups.
Thank God the Great Atheismo for other people realizing this.
Additionally, this is why immigration is good for the developed world. Low birth rates below replenishment leads to demographics crises when the ratio of the young to old gets too low to support social security programs. Germany stands to benefit by accepting migrants and in a few decades this will be apparent to the rest of the EU.
Those assholes invading Germany are not likely to ever cover the cost of their being there. It is the same deal with the immigrants here. Almost every single one will never provide a net gain to the economy or the tax base.
If by net gain you're just referring to taxes received versus taxes spent, probably not. If you look at things like inflation/deflation, an influx of people is going to be beneficial, especially for the EU where inflation is near 0.
"an influx of people is going to be beneficial"
Really? The unemployment and under employment rate is already high in the Euro zone, how are their illegal immigrants going to enter the labor market and then become consumers? You're in economic fantasy land.
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: shroombasa]
#22207212 - 09/08/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: The welfare state in Europe is collapsing because it is riddled with parasites. Adding more parasites is not going to help Europe's economy
Putting positive pressure on the cost of goods and services is absolutely in Europe's best interests. Look at the effects of a shrinking and aging population of Japan, coupled with deflation, and the effects it's having on their society. Inflation provides incentive for people to invest their money whereas they would otherwise save it, reduces debt by weakening currencies, and allows for higher interest rates to be cut in times of economic turmoil.
Using hyperbolic rhetoric is definitely not going to help either.
How are uneducated/skilled immigrants that can't speak the native language going to contribute and eventually become consumers? They're not.
Your economic perspective is so lacking, if you payed for it, please ask for your money back, you're more misinformed than if you didn't study it.
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