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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22198100 - 09/06/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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It seems like it's important to you





It's important to me, because the title of this thread, to point out how cubans get free shit.  They get incentive to come here.  We say it's illegal for them to try to come here but if you make it heres a prize.  Doesn't that piss any other converatives off?

Edit: I'll call you and record the call for you. via three way.  pick a border patrol office to call and pm me your number.





maybe you fail to realize that it works that way for all the illegals


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22198104 - 09/06/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I was wrong about a 10,000 check as I said pages ago, it's 5,000$ and benefits that equal about 5000$ said the agent.  If your arguing something that I admitted to being incorrect about that's funny.





and again you're wrong


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22198115 - 09/06/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

http://hhsa-pg.sdcounty.ca.gov/CalWORKS/45-200/Resources_and_Desk_Aids/Reception_and_Placement_%28R_and_P%29_Desk_Aid.pdf

I was lucky enough to find something about the refugee cash assistance program.  It talks a little bit about lump sums there which is what I have been trying to show you.  Further more that's for cali.  I'd like to find that for florida

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"As the U.S. government struggles to meet the challenge [of hurricane relief], the residents of the Florida Keys struggle to make sense with the constant surge of Cuban "refugees" and the taxpayer-funded benefits extended to them in the case of "dry feet"."Refugee benefits include immediate placement on Medicaid, housing assistance, lump sum cash assistance, food stamps, Federal grants, Supplemental Social Security (age eligible) and a myriad of other taxpayer funded social services."A list of refugee benefits can be found at the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services, Office of Refugee Resettlement website.





http://www.vdare.com/articles/cubans-overrunning-florida-keys-guess-whos-paying-for-it


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22198122 - 09/06/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

so it's called lump sum cash assistance.  I hope you learned something today pris.

edit:  off to dinner for real.


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Why would anyone want Mac or Windows?  Windows never quits shoving updates down your throat and Mac is just so expensive for the same exact hardware that's in a PC. 

Go Linux.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22198205 - 09/06/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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http://hhsa-pg.sdcounty.ca.gov/CalWORKS/45-200/Resources_and_Desk_Aids/Reception_and_Placement_%28R_and_P%29_Desk_Aid.pdf

I was lucky enough to find something about the refugee cash assistance program.  It talks a little bit about lump sums there which is what I have been trying to show you.  Further more that's for cali.  I'd like to find that for florida

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"As the U.S. government struggles to meet the challenge [of hurricane relief], the residents of the Florida Keys struggle to make sense with the constant surge of Cuban "refugees" and the taxpayer-funded benefits extended to them in the case of "dry feet"."Refugee benefits include immediate placement on Medicaid, housing assistance, lump sum cash assistance, food stamps, Federal grants, Supplemental Social Security (age eligible) and a myriad of other taxpayer funded social services."A list of refugee benefits can be found at the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services, Office of Refugee Resettlement website.





http://www.vdare.com/articles/cubans-overrunning-florida-keys-guess-whos-paying-for-it






lump sums such as for hurricane relief funds, kinda like was given to the
hurricane katrina victims, victims of other natural disaster and even
extended power outages


so once more you fail to solidify your claim


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods]
    #22198405 - 09/06/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You'd think that on a forum focused on psychedelics that people here would be more open to the idea of open borders...




This is about economics and nothing else, I care about my fellow US citizens and their employment struggles, I don't want to see the lower standard of living that many are experiencing.

The US already has plenty of poor people, more of them without the ability to speak English or any skills/education is a disaster.




I understand that completely. But what about the poor people in Mexico fleeing who look at our definition of "poverty" as a joke. I mean we have a country that is our next-door neighbor that is experiencing thousands of murders per year and is essentially experiencing a civil war. Do we have no sympathy for those trying to escape the war and poverty of Mexico?

I mean these people are the actual natives of this continent and we have the nerve to treat them like cockroaches; claiming they're stealing our jobs, or ruining our economy, etc.

I know this is a very touchy issue. But it still baffles me that any psychedelic use would try and prevent someone from seeking a better life.

I mean could you imagine tripping on shrooms and watching border patrol chase down an entire family like they were coyotes and then through them back across the border? Or imagine tripping on shrooms an watching INS break deport the parents of children born in America.

Or even more disgusting is the idea of anchor-babies. The idea that they would deport those who have lived their whole life in america because their parents are "illegal" I mean imagine tripping and watching that happen. How could anyone still support this whole argument after seeing something like that?

I think the problem is that most of the people that are against illegal immigrants are so severely disconnected from the reality of what it's like to be an illegal that they have no idea what they are talking about.

I don't give a fuck if I had to give up my job to an illegal if that meant they could escape the cartels and the corrupt federales and help support their family; whether they are here in America or in Mexico, or in whatever other South/Central American country they may have come from.

This isn't just about economics. This is about humanity.




I do have sympathy for people that are fleeing terrible living conditions, but taking permanent residency inside the US isn't a solution, do you know what the solution is for these people?  Fix your homelands!!

"have the nerve to treat them like cockroaches"

Really, by providing them free food, health care, education, housing?  Many get better treatment than our own citizens, but all the freebies are coming to an end, I hope they enjoyed it.

All developed nations don't have a anchor baby policy, the US shouldn't be the exception. The idea that a pregnant illegal giving birth and then staying in the US with a legal child is absurd.

If you have so much concern about the poor in Mexico, go down there and help them, donate YOUR money, the US doesn't need more people, the nations south of the border need to fix themselves because coming into the US isn't the solution anymore.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: qman]
    #22198428 - 09/06/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The child can stay.  The sow goes


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: qman]
    #22198464 - 09/06/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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This is about economics and nothing else, I care about my fellow US citizens and their employment struggles, I don't want to see the lower standard of living that many are experiencing.

The US already has plenty of poor people, more of them without the ability to speak English or any skills/education is a disaster.




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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods]
    #22198521 - 09/06/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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336 said:
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qman said:
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336 said:
You'd think that on a forum focused on psychedelics that people here would be more open to the idea of open borders...




This is about economics and nothing else, I care about my fellow US citizens and their employment struggles, I don't want to see the lower standard of living that many are experiencing.

The US already has plenty of poor people, more of them without the ability to speak English or any skills/education is a disaster.




I understand that completely. But what about the poor people in Mexico fleeing who look at our definition of "poverty" as a joke. I mean we have a country that is our next-door neighbor that is experiencing thousands of murders per year and is essentially experiencing a civil war. Do we have no sympathy for those trying to escape the war and poverty of Mexico?

I mean these people are the actual natives of this continent and we have the nerve to treat them like cockroaches; claiming they're stealing our jobs, or ruining our economy, etc.

I know this is a very touchy issue. But it still baffles me that any psychedelic use would try and prevent someone from seeking a better life.

I mean could you imagine tripping on shrooms and watching border patrol chase down an entire family like they were coyotes and then through them back across the border? Or imagine tripping on shrooms an watching INS break deport the parents of children born in America.

Or even more disgusting is the idea of anchor-babies. The idea that they would deport those who have lived their whole life in america because their parents are "illegal" I mean imagine tripping and watching that happen. How could anyone still support this whole argument after seeing something like that?

I think the problem is that most of the people that are against illegal immigrants are so severely disconnected from the reality of what it's like to be an illegal that they have no idea what they are talking about.

I don't give a fuck if I had to give up my job to an illegal if that meant they could escape the cartels and the corrupt federales and help support their family; whether they are here in America or in Mexico, or in whatever other South/Central American country they may have come from.

This isn't just about economics. This is about humanity.




The US, or any country for that matter, does not have the resources to take care of the world's poor.  If you are so full of humanity, you should go to Mexico and try to save them yourself.  Don't try to drag an entire nation's people into it.  You would only ruin the lives of people in first-world nations and barely even improve the lives of those in a third-world nation.

I feel that it is people like you who are disconnected from the reality of illegal immigration.  You think with your (bleeding) heart and not with your head.


Edited by WAN (09/06/15 06:07 PM)


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: zZZz]
    #22198560 - 09/06/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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This is about economics and nothing else, I care about my fellow US citizens and their employment struggles, I don't want to see the lower standard of living that many are experiencing.

The US already has plenty of poor people, more of them without the ability to speak English or any skills/education is a disaster.




:haha:




When you're deported, you won't be laughing. :shrug:


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: qman]
    #22198570 - 09/06/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Deported or imprisoned forever in a fema camp? One extreme or the other!


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: twighead]
    #22198583 - 09/06/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Oh no.  Just deported.  See ya. Wouldn't want to be ya.  Go back and fix your own shithole.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22198621 - 09/06/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Good thing I was born in Idaho, the most American of all states!


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22198627 - 09/06/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Oh no.  Just deported.  See ya. Wouldn't want to be ya.  Go back and fix your own shithole.





deportation by catapult, right over the mine fields?


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22198661 - 09/06/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well no actually.  Skip them like stones through the mine fields


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22198753 - 09/06/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Earth shouldn't be divided. People let it happen/created this division. However, it would probably take soooooooo much time (maybe hundreds) of years for there to be no more countries. Let's take care of America and make things great. There are so much worse things going on in other parts of the world that it could be catastrophic for us to let anybody in. We also have division in this country, like any country, among religions, political parties, etc. It's not a perfect world, obviously.

Btw, I do like countries because I do like the diversity in it, I'd love there to be a balance.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods]
    #22198852 - 09/06/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Nah, I know so many people, some who are my best friends, that would be labeled "anchor-babies" by some people. They are hard working as fuck, more hardworking than practically all my white friends, and their parents! Shit don't get me started on their parents! They are the most hardworking people I know, they nearly always have two or more jobs.

The idea that my friends might be deported after living their whole fucking lives here, going to school here, working here, etc, is fucking disgusting to me.

Look I don't know what's going to solve our economy issues but focusing on illegal immigration is going to solve the problem about as fast as the Drug War is going to solve anything...

I mean the War on Illegal Immigration that we are beginning to see develop is so damn similar to the War on Drugs. How can't you guys see that?

Lol sometimes I feel like some of the posters here are really just old ex-DEA agents or some shit.



There's a difference between being compassionate and trying to stop the bad people from coming in. Yes, it would be terrible to see your friends be deported, I get you. I'd like, for right now, to not let any MORE in illegally and try to deport the illegal criminals (the real criminals, the bad people). One step at a time, just like with drugs.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods]
    #22198878 - 09/06/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Nah, I know so many people, some who are my best friends, that would be labeled "anchor-babies" by some people. They are hard working as fuck, more hardworking than practically all my white friends, and their parents! Shit don't get me started on their parents! They are the most hardworking people I know, they nearly always have two or more jobs.

The idea that my friends might be deported after living their whole fucking lives here, going to school here, working here, etc, is fucking disgusting to me.

Look I don't know what's going to solve our economy issues but focusing on illegal immigration is going to solve the problem about as fast as the Drug War is going to solve anything...

I mean the War on Illegal Immigration that we are beginning to see develop is so damn similar to the War on Drugs. How can't you guys see that?

Lol sometimes I feel like some of the posters here are really just old ex-DEA agents or some shit.




"I don't know what's going to solve our economy issues"

That's very clear, it's because you don't understand the impact bringing cheap labor has on the US labor market.

Illegals living in the US and the current drug laws have NOTHING in common, the US had been invaded by illegals and it's NOT a victim-less crime, it has destroyed US communities and families across the nation.

The enforcement of the current drug laws are a huge injustice, the enforcement of US immigration laws are not, there is no comparison.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: qman]
    #22198929 - 09/06/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know if anyone in here has said it, I'm sick of people completely ignoring the word "illegal" before the word immigrant when Trump or anyone else in this world takes about them. They try to manipulate others or are too sensitive or whatever to know what someone is saying.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods]
    #22198979 - 09/06/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Nah, I know so many people, some who are my best friends, that would be labeled "anchor-babies" by some people. They are hard working as fuck, more hardworking than practically all my white friends, and their parents! Shit don't get me started on their parents! They are the most hardworking people I know, they nearly always have two or more jobs.

The idea that my friends might be deported after living their whole fucking lives here, going to school here, working here, etc, is fucking disgusting to me.

Look I don't know what's going to solve our economy issues but focusing on illegal immigration is going to solve the problem about as fast as the Drug War is going to solve anything...

I mean the War on Illegal Immigration that we are beginning to see develop is so damn similar to the War on Drugs. How can't you guys see that?

Lol sometimes I feel like some of the posters here are really just old ex-DEA agents or some shit.



Anchor babies are legal citizens.  Their parents are illegal immigrants.  The US labor force participation rate is as low as it has been since the seventies.  Low and middle class wages have stagnated.  Kick the cheating fucks the fuck out.  More than half of them are on assistance, they do not pay anywhere near enough taxes to cover their cost and they are lying cheating shits.

I do not give a shit about how many loser bums cheats are friends of yours.  If you are here illegally you need to get the fuck out.


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