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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods]
    #22197627 - 09/06/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You'd think that on a forum focused on psychedelics that people here would be more open to the idea of open borders...




This is about economics and nothing else, I care about my fellow US citizens and their employment struggles, I don't want to see the lower standard of living that many are experiencing.

The US already has plenty of poor people, more of them without the ability to speak English or any skills/education is a disaster.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22197640 - 09/06/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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40 years ago Americans were picking tobacco.  I know because I saw them



They still do. I know, because I live where a lot of tobacco is produced.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: lillFish] * 1
    #22197643 - 09/06/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Mexicans. They are some hard working people and even though they may send some of their money back home instead of spending it all here I'd rather have Mexicans than Muslims.





stop perpetuating racial stereotypes. some are hard working, some are lazy.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22197666 - 09/06/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The only thing you said that's true is that Cubans are eligible to apply for government-assisted benefits including start-up cash. They don't just get 5 grand, and the cash and healthcare programs are 8 months from what I am seeing.

Here are some resources that provide the information we're discussing, and notice they aren't Border Patrol

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/orr/resource/state-letter-00-17

http://refugeehealthta.org/access-to-care/eligibility-for-benefits-and-services/

http://refugeehealthta.org/access-to-care/affordable-care-act/

http://www.wrapsnet.org/Home/RPAgencyContacts/tabid/100/Default.aspx





resettlement benefits for refugees, these are people being persecuted in Cuba and
Haiti by the government, a very small number of people and it doesnt say anything
about getting any sort of cash disbursement and certainly nothing in the $5000 to
$10000 range, this from 2 of the latter 3 links, these are private organizations,
the first link is the only official policy posted and again, it doesnt show
anything about receiving any cash but the requirements of certain documents in
order to be eligible for resettlement benefits



They're federally funded.

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/iraq/216651/refugees/FAQ%20on%20refugee%20resettlement%20benefits.pdf

I don't see anything about getting cash anywhere either, but I don't think it's true.

Another link I have found from the state of Maine says:

Quote:

Refugee Cash Assistance & Temporary Assistance for Needy Families
All refugees arriving in the United States are entitled to 8 months of Refugee Cash Assistance
(RCA) from the date of their U.S. arrival. The RCA amounts vary based on the size of the family:
Single person ($230/month), Family of 2 ($363/M
onth), Family of 3 ($485/month), Family of 4
($611/month), etc. If a family qualifies for Te
mporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF),
offered by the Maine Department of Health an
d Human Services, they will not receive RCA
funds, but will immediately begin receiving TANF funds, which provide the same amounts of
funds as outlined above for families (Refugee or American), yet unlike RCA, there is 5 year time
limit to their receipt of funds which can be reviewed and extended depending on need. All TANF
recipients must be participating in verified educational courses, volunteer placements, and/or
employment searches in order to access these funds.




http://photos.state.gov/libraries/iraq/216651/refugees/FAQ%20on%20refugee%20resettlement%20benefits.pdf

I'm not following it well enough to figure out if this is or isn't a loan like a lot of the resettlement loans available.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: D.M.T]
    #22197673 - 09/06/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

food stamps and welfare. not uncommon even for mexican, guatamallan and honduran illegals


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22197675 - 09/06/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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lillFish said:
Mexicans. They are some hard working people and even though they may send some of their money back home instead of spending it all here I'd rather have Mexicans than Muslims.





stop perpetuating racial stereotypes. some are hard working, some are lazy.



While that is true, you won't work in tobacco very long if you're lazy. It is some of the most labor-intensive farmwork. A lot of Mexicans are lazy, but the ones doing tobacco aren't.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22197694 - 09/06/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Pris isn't going to admit he's wrong he's just wasting your time.  I suggest ignoring his post in this thread as he's hell bent on sticking up for the illegals. 

I know who I called, who did you call...oh you still haven't?  Pick up the phone and call one of the numbers and tell me who it is you spoke to and I'll tell you who I spoke to.  Better yet I record 100% of my phone calls including that one.  I'm not going to do all the ground work for you, you can quit being lazy and look it up if you care that much about it.

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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22197699 - 09/06/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I've never known Pris to be one to stick up for Illegals.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22197700 - 09/06/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Pris isn't going to admit he's wrong he's just wasting your time.  I suggest ignoring his post in this thread as he's hell bent on sticking up for the illegals. 

I know who I called, who did you call...oh you still haven't?  Pick up the phone and call one of the numbers and tell me who it is you spoke to and I'll tell you who I spoke to.  Better yet I record 100% of my phone calls including that one.  I'm not going to do all the ground work for you, you can quit being lazy and look it up if you care that much about it.

troll





awwww... poor little fella, him got called on his bullshit and now him ranting


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22197710 - 09/06/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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awwww... poor little fella, him got called on his bullshit and now him ranting




I called and got proof, did you?

troll.

Is your mom a Cuban or something?  it's ok if your for illegals.


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Why would anyone want Mac or Windows?  Windows never quits shoving updates down your throat and Mac is just so expensive for the same exact hardware that's in a PC. 

Go Linux.


Edited by ShootinD5nukes (09/06/15 03:27 PM)


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22197720 - 09/06/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Based on that news article someone posted a page ago, I don't think Cubans can be considered illegals once they touch US soil anyway. Until the amendment in the refugee act for Cubans is changed, which may be soon, they are all considered political refugees.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22197727 - 09/06/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm actually betting pris did call and the guy laid some truth on him and now he's illegalhrt

I know they are refugees but for the sake of this thread, their illegal.


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Why would anyone want Mac or Windows?  Windows never quits shoving updates down your throat and Mac is just so expensive for the same exact hardware that's in a PC. 

Go Linux.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22197740 - 09/06/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Instead of asking me who I spoke to tell me which agent you spoke to that told you I was right?  I'd like to call and thank him.


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Why would anyone want Mac or Windows?  Windows never quits shoving updates down your throat and Mac is just so expensive for the same exact hardware that's in a PC. 

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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22197761 - 09/06/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

What's the big deal if you just post the name of who you spoke to. Sorry I have been reading this thread a little bit.

I just don't see the big deal.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22197764 - 09/06/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Because he didn't actually speak with anybody


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22197777 - 09/06/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't mind posting it, I want him to call and hear it for himself from any agent he pleases, this information given is known by all the agents in this area I'm sure.  The name is irrelevant.  I think he's mad cause he already called and got told.

Edit: If I was making it up it would be easy to say officer smith wouldn't it?  I'll give you a hint he's Cuban, so call yourself.


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Why would anyone want Mac or Windows?  Windows never quits shoving updates down your throat and Mac is just so expensive for the same exact hardware that's in a PC. 

Go Linux.


Edited by ShootinD5nukes (09/06/15 03:36 PM)


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22197787 - 09/06/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So give us the name of the guy you spoke to and I'll call him myself... I don't want to talk to just anyone, I want to talk to the guy you spoke with, so I can tell him to quit giving wrong information.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22197797 - 09/06/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The entire internet can see this. No hiding here.

Nothing wrong with if he actually did or does. Just post the name right? lol
:shrug:

If he actually called, then another person can call and ask to speak to the same person. That's how it is. It's not irrelevant.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: D.M.T]
    #22197806 - 09/06/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Pick up the phone and call an agent.  Ask him about the benefits they receive if they get dry foot.  Make sure it's one in south Florida, like Miami.

We can swap names after that.

Edit:  It would be relevant if it was the opinion of the guy I spoke to but it's not.  Do you think the benefits that they get are only in my area?

You all are really fighting this


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Why would anyone want Mac or Windows?  Windows never quits shoving updates down your throat and Mac is just so expensive for the same exact hardware that's in a PC. 

Go Linux.


Edited by ShootinD5nukes (09/06/15 03:42 PM)


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22197815 - 09/06/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Why should another have to post a name before you? What's your justification?


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