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OfflineShootinD5nukes
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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22196980 - 09/06/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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nicechrisman said:
He is attempting to place the burden of proof upon you





I don't give a shit if he believes me or not. 

Like I have said several times already if you need to hear it first hand use the power of your phone and call one of the numbers I've listed.  If that isn't good enough flee to cuba and gain citzenship there then come over on a raft.  If your lucky enough to get a dry foot you'll learn first hand I guess.

I would suggest calling one in south Florida because it has to do with Cubans, I don't think border patrol would know as much about the wet foot dry foot policy in Texas as down here.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22197006 - 09/06/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
I'm still waiting for you to prove you're right by showing us that cuban illegals get $10,000





You didn't even know that agencies like border patrol were open 365 days a year.  I'm not going to argue a fact with someone that doesn't know the most basic of things. 

If it really means alot to you call the border patrol during "business hours" which are 24/365 just so you know





administrative offices are not open, info as you're claiming to have gotten with
your bullshit claim of calling them would have come from administrative offices,
not from field offices. but hey, let's assume you werent just making it up, how
about you give us the number you called and the agent's name that you spoke with
that way it's not conflicting information from 2 different agents

maybe you'd like to show us an actual news article or something as evidence that
these cubans are collecting this $10k check


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22197009 - 09/06/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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nicechrisman said:
He is attempting to place the burden of proof upon you




that's how it works, someone making a ludicrous claim has the burden of proving that claim


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22197019 - 09/06/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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makaveli8x8 said:
looks closer to $5000





that's $5000 for every 2000 that make it to the US, that's enough for a cup of coffee at McDonalds


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22197026 - 09/06/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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ShootinD5nukes said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
I'm still waiting for you to prove you're right by showing us that cuban illegals get $10,000





You didn't even know that agencies like border patrol were open 365 days a year.  I'm not going to argue a fact with someone that doesn't know the most basic of things. 

If it really means alot to you call the border patrol during "business hours" which are 24/365 just so you know





administrative offices are not open, info as you're claiming to have gotten with
your bullshit claim of calling them would have come from administrative offices,
not from field offices. but hey, let's assume you werent just making it up, how
about you give us the number you called and the agent's name that you spoke with
that way it's not conflicting information from 2 different agents

maybe you'd like to show us an actual news article or something as evidence that
these cubans are collecting this $10k check




I have gave the number already, I'm not wasting anymore energy on you.  troll someone else.

I also said the officer I spoke with corrected me and said half is cash the other half is benefits worth another 5,000.  Also 1 year free medical insurance. 

Go troll someone else now.  I don't think you'll get conflicting information.  Call one of them and compare it to what the one I spoke with said.

done.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22197033 - 09/06/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
The world would be better off with more facts and less hyperbole.




Actually, no.  Facts don't stick in peoples' consciousness like stories, themes, and parables.  Why do you think religion has such a strong hold in societies around the world?
The only way to combat against one narrative is with a stronger, better narrative.  People don't want facts; they want emotion.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22197122 - 09/06/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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ShootinD5nukes said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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ShootinD5nukes said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
I'm still waiting for you to prove you're right by showing us that cuban illegals get $10,000





You didn't even know that agencies like border patrol were open 365 days a year.  I'm not going to argue a fact with someone that doesn't know the most basic of things. 

If it really means alot to you call the border patrol during "business hours" which are 24/365 just so you know





administrative offices are not open, info as you're claiming to have gotten with
your bullshit claim of calling them would have come from administrative offices,
not from field offices. but hey, let's assume you werent just making it up, how
about you give us the number you called and the agent's name that you spoke with
that way it's not conflicting information from 2 different agents

maybe you'd like to show us an actual news article or something as evidence that
these cubans are collecting this $10k check




I have gave the number already, I'm not wasting anymore energy on you.  troll someone else.

I also said the officer I spoke with corrected me and said half is cash the other half is benefits worth another 5,000.  Also 1 year free medical insurance. 

Go troll someone else now.  I don't think you'll get conflicting information.  Call one of them and compare it to what the one I spoke with said.

done.





so you have mo proof other than your bullshit claim of calling and asking

there's no news articles claiming anything close, not a single one, why wouldnt
the media have jumped on this at any time since the 1960s or the 1990s when the
cuban bills were passed and modifies


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22197137 - 09/06/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i did call, did you? no. 

your bullshit


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22197151 - 09/06/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Do you have any evidence to back up your claim that you called? I could just as easily say that I called and was told the opposite. Nobody's trolling you, we are simply expecting you to back up your claim with facts.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22197154 - 09/06/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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ShootinD5nukes said:
i did call, did you? no. 

your bullshit





what was the agent's name


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
    #22197165 - 09/06/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The only thing you said that's true is that Cubans are eligible to apply for government-assisted benefits including start-up cash. They don't just get 5 grand, and the cash and healthcare programs are 8 months from what I am seeing.

Here are some resources that provide the information we're discussing, and notice they aren't Border Patrol

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/orr/resource/state-letter-00-17

http://refugeehealthta.org/access-to-care/eligibility-for-benefits-and-services/

http://refugeehealthta.org/access-to-care/affordable-care-act/

http://www.wrapsnet.org/Home/RPAgencyContacts/tabid/100/Default.aspx


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: D.M.T]
    #22197184 - 09/06/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeh i always assumed those were built in the difference being political refugees vs illegal aliens.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22197192 - 09/06/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

doesnt matter nemore anyway cuz the walls comng down now


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22197199 - 09/06/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

No way. The answer to America is obviously more walls. We can put Americans back to work simply by building walls.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22197208 - 09/06/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22197234 - 09/06/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

now that i think about it too i know some dewd in the coast guard n i pretty sure its not easy to land in florida from cuba as it used to be and you essentially have to smuggle people n the coast guard will do fucked up shit to prevent you from landing basically jus short of shooting you.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: D.M.T]
    #22197414 - 09/06/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The only thing you said that's true is that Cubans are eligible to apply for government-assisted benefits including start-up cash. They don't just get 5 grand, and the cash and healthcare programs are 8 months from what I am seeing.

Here are some resources that provide the information we're discussing, and notice they aren't Border Patrol

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/orr/resource/state-letter-00-17

http://refugeehealthta.org/access-to-care/eligibility-for-benefits-and-services/

http://refugeehealthta.org/access-to-care/affordable-care-act/

http://www.wrapsnet.org/Home/RPAgencyContacts/tabid/100/Default.aspx





resettlement benefits for refugees, these are people being persecuted in Cuba and
Haiti by the government, a very small number of people and it doesnt say anything
about getting any sort of cash disbursement and certainly nothing in the $5000 to
$10000 range, this from 2 of the latter 3 links, these are private organizations,
the first link is the only official policy posted and again, it doesnt show
anything about receiving any cash but the requirements of certain documents in
order to be eligible for resettlement benefits


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: koods]
    #22197577 - 09/06/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Guess who I saw out picking tobacco one Sunday morning while I was riding my motorcycle? Some Mexicans. They are some hard working people and even though they may send some of their money back home instead of spending it all here I'd rather have Mexicans than Muslims.


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: lillFish]
    #22197588 - 09/06/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

40 years ago Americans were picking tobacco.  I know because I saw them


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Re: Americans need to stop bitching about illegal immigration [Re: lillFish]
    #22197592 - 09/06/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Guess who I saw out picking tobacco one Sunday morning while I was riding my motorcycle? Some Mexicans. They are some hard working people and even though they may send some of their money back home instead of spending it all here I'd rather have Mexicans than Muslims.




I'd rather have US citizens.


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