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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: SunnyD]
#22183898 - 09/03/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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dunno about you guys but when i die i'll become a higher dimensional space superwizard and fuck with people on their DMT trips.
y'all suckers will probably end up as dust mites or some lame shit.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22183901 - 09/03/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: The whole "when you die you release DMT in your brain" thing is bullshit too.
Bitter Cactus just hates psychedelics and doesn't believe in anything he deems as remotely being "hippy dippy bullshit"
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#22183915 - 09/03/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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SirShroomsAlott said: I've never met a single person that remembers a life before the one they have now,
I felt the same way until I spent a couple of months in Bhutan. Changed my perspective completely. Met some Buddhist monks that were aware of many lifetimes. They take that stuff really seriously. It's not about writing a book or becoming famous for them. It's about really understanding who they are and why they're here. They're oriented very differently from how we are in the West.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: KauaiOrca] 1
#22183929 - 09/03/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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We all live by our own delusions and justifications of the way we think, doesn't make any of us right or what we say true 
Not saying it's impossible, but to me it's the same as bill O'Reilly saying dmt showed him universal truth or whatever he claims, he doesnt do it for fame or anything but it's just as real to him as what those monks believe.
Everyone believes what they believe to be true, truth is that we're probably all equally wrong
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22183934 - 09/03/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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KauaiOrca said: In other words, where did all the "stuff" that created the stuff for the big bang come from, anyway?
If you could reverse time and watch the 'un-expansion' of the Universe, how long would it take for it to cease to exist? Is there a limit to how small something can get before it completely disappears from existence? No, of course not. One of the fundamental rules regarding the law of conservation of energy is that energy cannot be created nor destroyed. What is matter made of? Energy (of some form or another). There couldn't have been a beginning to the Big Bang; the Universe must somehow have been expanding for eternity. Anyway, I'm getting off-topic. I agree with your posts, btw. I was just adding on my own thoughts to your statement.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: hTx]
#22184050 - 09/03/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The opposite of death is birth. There is only life. Therefor, after life is... life. Everything is "I AM" All the people around you is you reincarnated over and over and over. Even science calls us the "HOMO SAPIEN" AKA "ONE WISDOM" because we are all the same being sharing this experience we call life.
So do your best to better the world and take care of each other because there will be a new "I AM" after you pass. When you die and you realize this you will either see how you bettered and harmed the world/yourself and your last moments will be heaven or hell because you won't have time to change on your deathbed. This is why we should show compassion and love to all people and things, because they are a part of you and you are a part of it.
Or there literally could be different dimensions and your individual spirit goes to one that is torturous for an eternity or bliss for eternity. But this is the one that matters most as it is the one you are aware of and currently existing in.
The correct answer is: nobody knows for sure until they die.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Janky Tits]
#22184053 - 09/03/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Xplicit RelapzZ said:
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Bitter Cactus said: The whole "when you die you release DMT in your brain" thing is bullshit too.
Bitter Cactus just hates psychedelics and doesn't believe in anything he deems as remotely being "hippy dippy bullshit"
I love psychedelics, but I don't treat the experience like a religion. I enjoy them for what they are and do not take them too seriously and act like I am enlightened. I believe people can gain way more knowledge about themselves and how to improve their lives by simply going to a therapist instead of tripping.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22184072 - 09/03/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Therapists are full of just as much shit half the time 
They're almost like psychedelics in a way. They tell you what you already knew to begin with but didn't wan to acknowledge.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22184086 - 09/03/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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One morning after a long night of psytrance and dancing I was standing outside talking to some people. I held out two mandarin oranges and exclaimed "All I know is that I have two oranges in my hand" and the moment I said "hand" I couldn't hold on to those oranges for the life of me. I fumbled them and they fell towards my body and I still couldn't catch a single one. The Universe showed me that I know nothing. But I still have faith in love being the savior of humanity.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22184089 - 09/03/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Life after death is really bullshit though. As humans, of course we want there to be something after we die. I probably do too honestly. It really does suck you get one shot and it's over forever, but it is what it is. It is definitely human nature for everyone to latch on to any sign of hope that there is something after we die.
People love the idea of heaven, people love the idea of coming back as another animal. People are afraid. Let's be honest. We are afraid of the unknown and that is why we created religions in the first place.
But science is always the first to tell you that you live, you die, your brain cells die and can never be brought back. One little change in your brain chemistry, even from a drug changes who you are completely. You really are just a bag of chemicals interacting and once that process is over and the neurons stop firing you can never bring yourself back.
The cycle of life is beautiful, and trying to find some bullshit loophole so you can get another round is just selfish. Let some other person live the human life and accept it. You only live once and to think you get to come back for more rounds or get transported to some pretty place is delusional. Think of all the random animals and ants and rats that die. Do you think they go to some special place as well? Probably not. All we care about is ourselves and where we go when we die.
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Edited by Bitter Cactus (09/03/15 06:02 PM)
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22184090 - 09/03/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think "thought" is the most refined energy in the universe and God is an addict for it. It's faster and more powerful than light, the second most refined energy. This universe is a factory to create a never ending steam of thought and light and the more advanced the being, the more that being can harness and "ride" that thought. We are in early stages. When we die, we become aware of another way to experience thought ... then another ... then another ... Why? Because the creative force in the universe craves it and has an insatiable eternal appetite for more and more and more. The human bio interface is just one machine for thought. It wears out and we get another.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: KauaiOrca] 1
#22184111 - 09/03/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Scientists will also be the first to tell you that when you come up with an idea like reincarnation or heaven and state that it happens after you die, the burden of proof is on you to prove it as a fact or else the statement is false.
These ideas are cool and all, but I am all about science and science is telling me that your ideas are just ideas and not based in reality.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22184130 - 09/03/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22184142 - 09/03/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think ,ost likely there is nothing. Still, just because there is this one logical tick toward needing ecidance doesnt make that side right. we hardly know everything. I hqve almost n9 doubt there is life elsewhere, but wenhave no evidance. Perhaps it is just my bias
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Space Elf]
#22184147 - 09/03/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Space Elf said: ...One of the fundamental rules regarding the law of conservation of energy is that energy cannot be created nor destroyed...
I think that life or awareness is related to conservation of energy and mass. Since it can't be created or destroyed, I think life is not created or destroyed. Reincarnation aligns with this if you think about it. I don't think that you die and your consciousness is preserved, but I do believe that the energy in your body is recycled. You decay because bacteria and such feeds on you. The energy that was you just changes form. It is not destroyed. Personally, I think that when you die, your memories and consciousness just fade as your body cools down. the environment just absorbs your energy. I didn't explain it that well, but what I think is that like energy and mass is conserved, awareness is conserved. But, the awareness is directly proportional to the energy present. So, as the heat in your body diffuses into the surroundings, your awareness as you fades. As the saying goes, opinions are like assholes...
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22184163 - 09/03/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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4HO-DMT said:
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Space Elf said: ...One of the fundamental rules regarding the law of conservation of energy is that energy cannot be created nor destroyed...
I think that life or awareness is related to conservation of energy and mass. Since it can't be created or destroyed, I think life is not created or destroyed. Reincarnation aligns with this if you think about it. I don't think that you die and your consciousness is preserved, but I do believe that the energy in your body is recycled. You decay because bacteria and such feeds on you. The energy that was you just changes form. It is not destroyed. Personally, I think that when you die, your memories and consciousness just fade as your body cools down. the environment just absorbs your energy. I didn't explain it that well, but what I think is that like energy and mass is conserved, awareness is conserved. But, the awareness is directly proportional to the energy present. So, as the heat in your body diffuses into the surroundings, your awareness as you fades. As the saying goes, opinions are like assholes...
That doesn't make any sense.
The whole energy being created and destroy spiel is ridiculous. Once you die, you are eaten by bugs and decomposed. Your energy becomes a meal for an insect that poops you out. I don't see how that means you have to be reincarnated. You become poop basically.
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Edited by Bitter Cactus (09/03/15 06:19 PM)
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22184175 - 09/03/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its science though.
Conservation of Mass
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#22184187 - 09/03/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: Its science though.
Conservation of Mass
Going from flesh to decomposed material is not an argument for reincarnation though. Your energy is transfered, but not from one life to another. It changes forms but you ultimately end up as soil I think.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22184190 - 09/03/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's right, your energy gets consumed by whatever is eating you. So, your energy changes form and becomes part of the life that is consuming your energy.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22184195 - 09/03/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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4HO-DMT said: That's right, your energy gets consumed by whatever is eating you. So, your energy changes form and becomes part of the life that is consuming your energy.
My hamburger I ate today was once a living creature, but that certainly does not mean the hamburger is now part of me and is brought back to life in any way.
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