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Bitter Cactus
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Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever?
#22182730 - 09/03/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I do. 
I don't think there is reincarnation, I do not think you go to heaven. I truly do believe that the 70-80 years you have on this earth are the only time you will ever be alive. After death, I think your brain just basically shuts down and you get eaten up by bugs and there is no bringing you back.
Then you are dead for trillions and zillions of years and that is basically it.
This idea doesn't scare me, for I know it to be true. Unless you believe in dragons in fairies this is basically what happens scientifically.
Discuss.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Bitter Cactus] 1
#22182762 - 09/03/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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this is basically what happens scientifically. 
Events being reproducible is science.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22182766 - 09/03/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Sheekle] 3
#22182770 - 09/03/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Bitter Cactus] 2
#22182772 - 09/03/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It would be a mistake to not take into account the underlying factors that are present in this life.. something is going on here.
That said, I don't know. It seems the only ones that do, dont have the options of writing up a summary on their findings. Either way, if this is a one shot go, people sure seem to be pissing it away on shenanigans. You would think believing in no heaven, no second chances, no reincarnation would have people treating this life as even more sacred since it's all you get...you would think one would feel blessed in having this 'fluke' provided to you. But that mentality is usually just used as an excuse to furthur piss everything away and not care.
I'm of the mind to believe there is more here, than meets the eye upon first glance.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Amanita86] 1
#22182806 - 09/03/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree. I don't know what it is, but there's more than just atoms and molecules at the end. I think we're wrapped balls deep in a multi-layered simulation of simulations simulating simulations.
If you catch me drift.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: ModestMouse]
#22182810 - 09/03/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dream on.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22182814 - 09/03/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I thought you were heavily into the whole Jesus deal 
I agree though
Can you imagine how long you were dead before you were alive
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Tripsurfer] 6
#22182855 - 09/03/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You cannot be in a state of "dead" because it implies nonexistence is a thing. After you die you go back to the primordial soup that you came from. What that is, no one knows. But it's not nothingness.
No one thing ever "ends". It is simply transformed.
I too was an atheist. I still am to a degree.
But that whole "after death there is nothing! it just stops" banter is silly. You know as much as any other religious fanatic what is waiting after death.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Asante]
#22182928 - 09/03/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Asante said:
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this is basically what happens scientifically. 
Events being reproducible is science.
Science makes death happen every day of the week. It's reproducible as hella.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: MoxyOx] 2
#22182950 - 09/03/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nobody is talking about matter (or substance) disappearing into nothingness. The compound of electrical signals that constitutes the illusion of you-ness and duality cannot exist without an organic medium.
As the body returns to a more elemental state of being the 'you' disappears. The matter itself spreads into other things. Existence continues but not for you
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Tripsurfer]
#22182963 - 09/03/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You've clearly never even tried it. The screen fades to black and bright green writing says "Game Over: To Continue insert 25c"
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: EllisDSox]
#22182987 - 09/03/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pretty sure once live ends it is over.
Like before you were born you were not alive and it didn't bother you so I don't see why people always stress about dying. It is just like before you were born.
Just like when any other animal dies on the earth, once their brain is dead and their neurons are shot that animal can never exist anymore. It is decomposed and transformed into energy for a little bug so it can decompose more stuff.
Scientifically though, I think we can all agree that once you are dead it is over and you are never gonna see the light of day again in any way shape or form. What is the big deal though, death is a part of life and it is not something to fear.
I'm not pessimistic in any way, this concept does not bother me at all. If life were to continue forever and ever and you kept reappearing in different forms after a while it would get exhausting. After the trillionth year of reincarnation I would just keep killing myself cause I would be so tired of dying then coming back as something else I would be OVER IT.
Once you are dead you are dead boys, just appreciate the small fraction of time you will ever exist. 
It's kind of freaky to think about this life is the only life you will live then it is over forever, but common that is what makes our time so special.
Also think of it this way. We had our life on earth. It honestly is time to pass the torch to the next set of life and that is the way it is meant to be. It is kind of selfish to expect there to be more and more time of existence after our one life.
Edited by Bitter Cactus (09/03/15 01:01 PM)
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22182997 - 09/03/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I believe that once you die that's the end of the line. It's an anxiety-provoking thought, but as the saying goes, it is what it is. I'm thankful for the short time I get.
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Capers]
#22183005 - 09/03/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Capers said: I believe that once you die that's the end of the line. It's an anxiety-provoking thought, but as the saying goes, it is what it is. I'm thankful for the short time I get.
I wouldn't even want it any other way honestly. It is what it is. This is life and death is death. 
I know that makes some people butthurt thinking about it that way but everyone should be happy they were born in the first place.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Bitter Cactus] 2
#22183007 - 09/03/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just as you are sure nothing happens i am sure something happens.
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: DurgaDurg]
#22183017 - 09/03/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I bet if you ask most scientists they would say there is a cycle of life and once you die you pass the torch onwards for the next generation. Anyone expecting something to happen after it is your turn in the cycle is kind of deluded to me.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22183039 - 09/03/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Our souls are eternal. I guess it's a scary concept for some people.
Having to exist for eternity can be a scary concept. What's the point of these silly individual lives which are merely a tiny blip in time and space?
I have astral projected on numerous occasions. The experience of literally traveling outside one's own body is pretty eye-opening.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22183040 - 09/03/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I bet the vast majority of scientists do not believe in an after life. I don't mean to piss on other people's hopes and dreams though. You never know. Maybe there is an after life. I see zero evidence that there is, but the universe is full of surprises.
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: Does anyone else here think that once you die life is completely over forever? [Re: chopstick]
#22183058 - 09/03/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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chopstick said: Our souls are eternal. I guess it's a scary concept for some people.

Both you and I know you have zero evidence to back up this statement.
I think part of being human is wanting something more after life but the reality is that is not going to be the case.
Edit: What is a soul anyways? Besides consciousness and having a working brain I don't think there is such thing as a "soul" that can be defined by science.
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Edited by Bitter Cactus (09/03/15 01:16 PM)
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