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the thread about CBD oil 1
#22182351 - 09/03/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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the thread is deleted because it's a source thread, I was leaving it open for discussion but morrowwasted decided to continue editing his post to encourage people to post sources after he was told to stop doing so and the sources were edited out of the thread, the thread had discussion but now it has nothing
here are a few facts about CBD oil and it's legality
CBD oil is not legal in all 50 states, it's a grey area under federal law CBD oil is legal in some states CBD oil is legal in some states for people with a prescription CBD oil is not legal in some state
because it's a grey area under federal law, posting sources for it falls under the same classification as posting sources for illicit drugs
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Re: the thread about CBD oil [Re: Prisoner#1] 3
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Is cbd legal in Canada ?
What is your sex life like prisoner 1?
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Re: the thread about CBD oil [Re: Moonshoe]
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If there's anyone here who has used CBD oil for relief of physical ailments or have had remarkable results, I would love to hear first hand what specific effect this oil has on muscles. I have found that a good indica works better than the muscle relaxers I've taken, and I'm curious if the oil has the same if not more effect on muscles. Medical marijuana has the green light in Illinois, but there's no telling when shops will be open for business or if I will even qualify. The symptoms of my condition are on the list of qualifications but my condition is not. I would think they would jump right on it considering how broke and in debt this state is. Someone won the lottery here and got an IOU.
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Re: the thread about CBD oil [Re: Astral Pain]
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There is an herb shop close to me that sales Hemp Oil fortified with CBD Oil that showed some results in helping with anxiety, stress, and pain relief as well.
Granted, I would think a fortified version of this product would have only small results when compared to pure CBD oil.
I live in Georgia btw, which recently passed a bill for CBD oil, but I honestly think the oil I got was a weaker version of the real thing.
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Re: the thread about CBD oil [Re: Pariahprose]
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I can't mess around because I get piss tested by my pain management doc. I think the general consensus is it doesn't show on test, but still I will have to be honest with them and not try to sneak anything by them. The indica turns my legs into butter, and if it's the CBD part of the equation that is doing it, I'll be set.
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Re: the thread about CBD oil [Re: Astral Pain]
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Astral Pain said: I can't mess around because I get piss tested by my pain management doc. I think the general consensus is it doesn't show on test, but still I will have to be honest with them and not try to sneak anything by them. The indica turns my legs into butter, and if it's the CBD part of the equation that is doing it, I'll be set.
Drug tests only test for THC, not CBD. That is the catch to the "medical marijuana" law in Georgia ( if you even consider it medical marijuana, which I do not consider our current law to be so). The CBD oil products in my state are only allowed a very very tiny amount of THC (like .01%), which is far to low to be detected by any drug test
However, if you do choose to purchase a CBD oil product, make sure you ask about the THC content and explain why because the laws concerning the THC content varies by state.
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Re: the thread about CBD oil [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said: the thread is deleted because it's a source thread, I was leaving it open for discussion but morrowwasted decided to continue editing his post to encourage people to post sources after he was told to stop doing so and the sources were edited out of the thread, the thread had discussion but now it has nothing
here are a few facts about CBD oil and it's legality
CBD oil is not legal in all 50 states, it's a grey area under federal law CBD oil is legal in some states CBD oil is legal in some states for people with a prescription CBD oil is not legal in some state
because it's a grey area under federal law, posting sources for it falls under the same classification as posting sources for illicit drugs
That's a shame that he ruined the thread. Any ways does this go for CBD made from hemp? I see it, all the time on the Internet claiming the "Legal in all 50 states" advertisement/label on many of these products.
hmm... I wish I could of copied and pasted my information I added to that thread back there, its a little hard to rejuvenate. I suppose I can try later after I have my coffee soon here.
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Re: the thread about CBD oil [Re: Pariahprose]
#22182874 - 09/03/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Astral Pain said: I can't mess around because I get piss tested by my pain management doc. I think the general consensus is it doesn't show on test, but still I will have to be honest with them and not try to sneak anything by them. The indica turns my legs into butter, and if it's the CBD part of the equation that is doing it, I'll be set.
Drug tests only test for THC, not CBD. That is the catch to the "medical marijuana" law in Georgia ( if you even consider it medical marijuana, which I do not consider our current law to be so). The CBD oil products in my state are only allowed a very very tiny amount of THC (like .01%), which is far to low to be detected by any drug test
However, if you do choose to purchase a CBD oil product, make sure you ask about the THC content and explain why because the laws concerning the THC content varies by state.
This is why many people/websites are selling CBD products made from hemp. In the last thread interestingly enough no one knew that!
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Astral Pain said: I can't mess around because I get piss tested by my pain management doc. I think the general consensus is it doesn't show on test, but still I will have to be honest with them and not try to sneak anything by them. The indica turns my legs into butter, and if it's the CBD part of the equation that is doing it, I'll be set.
Drug tests only test for THC, not CBD. That is the catch to the "medical marijuana" law in Georgia ( if you even consider it medical marijuana, which I do not consider our current law to be so). The CBD oil products in my state are only allowed a very very tiny amount of THC (like .01%), which is far to low to be detected by any drug test
However, if you do choose to purchase a CBD oil product, make sure you ask about the THC content and explain why because the laws concerning the THC content varies by state.
This is why many people/websites are selling CBD products made from hemp. In the last thread interestingly enough no one knew that!
Wow, really? Most of the people / websites probably did not advertise them as such. People disgust me sometimes, that is false advertising no matter how you look at it. Its fucked up to get someone's hopes up like that with a product that can have such healing power.
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I will post what I know about this stuff.
Most CBD products sold on the internet are made from hemp. I know this because all you have to do is search it. Give it ago most websites clearly state their products are made from hemp. I feel they are great for anxiety, nervousness and very very minor aches and pains.
I have used far and many CBD products made from hemp and I have passed a drug test with no THC showing up. The ones you buy at a dollar store. The CBD from hemp is the same as CBD from marijuana, just being from hemp there's such low levels of THC that theres no chance of failing a standard drug test unless the test was so extensive that they search for tiny trace amounts of THC.
I have tried the e-liquids. Within vaporizing I have had little success within getting "high". You can search youtube on this subject and most people on there will tell you the same thing when you are looking up reviews on the E-liquids.
Most websites say they have had their products tested. 100% safe and clean. Is this true and its not something else causing a person to get the tiny small buzz? I don't know. Many people say you can not get a buzz from CBD, so could other cannabinoids be responsible? These are all unknown, at least to me. When I use a good CBD product made from hemp I can drink a cup of coffee for example be over hyped from the coffee, use the product and calm right back down to my normal state again and be comfortable.
Within regards to CBD derived from hemp - infused products I have achieved more success. Such as CBD infused damiana herb. This is not what your normal stoner would call a high. I would not call it a narcotic intoxication. At most I have received a tiny little 15-20 minutes buzz from these products. The buzz is more relaxing than a cigarette and its just not intoxicating enough to be called a marijuana high or a narcotic. It does not compare or even come slightly close to a high from a research chemical product such as the popular incense(s) and other things which are no longer sold legally. If you smoke marijuana then later on in the day try a CBD infused product you probably wont feel any thing.
I have used CBD tinctures made from hemp which can also be vaporized. I notice when I would vape them I would get little to nothing out of it. However when I would give a wipe on the inside of my cig paper and roll up some tobacco I could feel the little effects, they were weaker but similar to the infused CBD products. Pretty weird.
Be careful which CBD from hemp products you buy. The FDA has gave out warnings that the majority of them after being tested in fact contained little to no CBD at all. If you are going to buy this stuff you need to find a reputable/trusted source.
http://www.thedailychronic.net/2015/41401/fda-issues-warnings-to-makers-of-legal-cbd-hemp-oil-products/
So is a CBD product deprived from hemp worth it? The answer is no if your looking to get stoned or already smoke marijuana. If you want something more enjoyable than a cigarette and don't smoke weed, you need to get the right product you may come to find its worth your time.
reason for edit - added information.
Edited by Dr.Wongburger (09/03/15 01:25 PM)
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Re: the thread about CBD oil [Re: Pariahprose]
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Astral Pain said: I can't mess around because I get piss tested by my pain management doc. I think the general consensus is it doesn't show on test, but still I will have to be honest with them and not try to sneak anything by them. The indica turns my legs into butter, and if it's the CBD part of the equation that is doing it, I'll be set.
Drug tests only test for THC, not CBD. That is the catch to the "medical marijuana" law in Georgia ( if you even consider it medical marijuana, which I do not consider our current law to be so). The CBD oil products in my state are only allowed a very very tiny amount of THC (like .01%), which is far to low to be detected by any drug test
However, if you do choose to purchase a CBD oil product, make sure you ask about the THC content and explain why because the laws concerning the THC content varies by state.
This is why many people/websites are selling CBD products made from hemp. In the last thread interestingly enough no one knew that!
Wow, really? Most of the people / websites probably did not advertise them as such. People disgust me sometimes, that is false advertising no matter how you look at it. Its fucked up to get someone's hopes up like that with a product that can have such healing power.
I imagine there's a entire spider web of people selling CBD products made from hemp as something else. You gotta jump onto the right web!
You can always search youtube for CBD hemp products however most are just reviews of the e-liquids which wont be of any help.
The CBD from hemp is not bad and if a legit product is used it does have some value, mainly calming effects and such, such as helping with anxiety. I would say its no good for aches and pains unless very minor. I'm speaking from the experience with the products I have used, not to down all other possibilities. The CBD from hemp is the same as CBD from marijuana just being from hemp there's such low levels of THC that theres no chance of failing a drug test unless the test is so extensive that they search for tiny trace amounts.
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I'm a little skeptical of this stuff actually being a commercially available substance at all. Hemp contains very little detectable THC at all so why would it have CBD? I'm again just not seeing very much evidence here.
Even the high CBD strains that I have worked with trimming have got atleast 10-12% THC along with 3-12% CBD. Seperating the two cannabanoids would be difficult; but not impossible, requiring a significant amount.
Avidekel is a strain that purportedly has 1% THC and 15-17% CBD, but its only available from a Israeli pharmaceutical style cannabis company.
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Re: the thread about CBD oil [Re: Dest]
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Dest said: I'm a little skeptical of this stuff actually being a commercially available substance at all. Hemp contains very little detectable THC at all so why would it have CBD? I'm again just not seeing very much evidence here.
Even the high CBD strains that I have worked with trimming have got atleast 10-12% THC along with 3-12% CBD. Seperating the two cannabanoids would be difficult; but not impossible, requiring a significant amount.
Avidekel is a strain that purportedly has 1% THC and 15-17% CBD, but its only available from a Israeli pharmaceutical style cannabis company.
I have recently ordered CBD rich hemp that should be safe. I will go up town today to buy a $1 drug test, I will post back later.
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I can say I have used concentrated CBD hemp products and passed a drug test. However I do not know which hemp strains those products where made from. It would concern me thinking that CBD rich hemp could cause one to fail a drug test.
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Re: the thread about CBD oil [Re: Dest]
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Dest said: I'm a little skeptical of this stuff actually being a commercially available substance at all. Hemp contains very little detectable THC at all so why would it have CBD? I'm again just not seeing very much evidence here.
Even the high CBD strains that I have worked with trimming have got atleast 10-12% THC along with 3-12% CBD. Seperating the two cannabanoids would be difficult; but not impossible, requiring a significant amount.
Avidekel is a strain that purportedly has 1% THC and 15-17% CBD, but its only available from a Israeli pharmaceutical style cannabis company.
That is why its hemp oil fortified w/ CBD. I do not think hemp on its own necessarily has CBD oil in, hence "fortified" meaning adding too.
Someone correct me if I am wrong here.
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Re: the thread about CBD oil [Re: Pariahprose]
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Dest said: I'm a little skeptical of this stuff actually being a commercially available substance at all. Hemp contains very little detectable THC at all so why would it have CBD? I'm again just not seeing very much evidence here.
Even the high CBD strains that I have worked with trimming have got atleast 10-12% THC along with 3-12% CBD. Seperating the two cannabanoids would be difficult; but not impossible, requiring a significant amount.
Avidekel is a strain that purportedly has 1% THC and 15-17% CBD, but its only available from a Israeli pharmaceutical style cannabis company.
That is why its hemp oil fortified w/ CBD. I do not think hemp on its own necessarily has CBD oil in, hence "fortified" meaning adding too.
Someone correct me if I am wrong here.
Hemp has CBD in it. Very little. Wiki says -
"Several industrial hemp varieties can be legally cultivated in western Europe. A variety such as "Fedora 17" has a cannabinoid profile consistently around 1% cannabidiol (CBD) with THC less than 0.1%.[34]
Extraction can be done with olive oil, ethanol, or CO2, and other nonpolar to semipolar solvents." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol#Industrial_hemp
Maybe they just use a shit ton of it since its so cheap in Europe.
The thing is there is such little information on the different strains of hemp, who knows maybe they have strains containing higher levels of CBD and still low levels of THC. Its grown all over the place! Most of the vendors do how ever guarantee you a low level (they tell the % on their sites usually) of THC in their products.
reason for edit - added information.
Edited by Dr.Wongburger (09/03/15 01:50 PM)
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Dest said: I'm a little skeptical of this stuff actually being a commercially available substance at all. Hemp contains very little detectable THC at all so why would it have CBD? I'm again just not seeing very much evidence here.
Even the high CBD strains that I have worked with trimming have got atleast 10-12% THC along with 3-12% CBD. Seperating the two cannabanoids would be difficult; but not impossible, requiring a significant amount.
Avidekel is a strain that purportedly has 1% THC and 15-17% CBD, but its only available from a Israeli pharmaceutical style cannabis company.
That is why its hemp oil fortified w/ CBD. I do not think hemp on its own necessarily has CBD oil in, hence "fortified" meaning adding too.
Someone correct me if I am wrong here.
Hemp has CBD in it. Very little. Wiki says -
"Several industrial hemp varieties can be legally cultivated in western Europe. A variety such as "Fedora 17" has a cannabinoid profile consistently around 1% cannabidiol (CBD) with THC less than 0.1%.[34]
Extraction can be done with olive oil, ethanol, or CO2, and other nonpolar to semipolar solvents." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol#Industrial_hemp
Maybe they just use a shit ton of it since its so cheap in Europe.
Does this mean fortified products have more than just the regular low concentration typically found in hemp?
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Re: the thread about CBD oil [Re: Pariahprose]
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I was looking for seeds and can't find anything that has no thc but
charolettes web is made in colorado and if you shop around on amazon you can find the company that grows it
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Re: the thread about CBD oil [Re: Pariahprose]
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Dest said: I'm a little skeptical of this stuff actually being a commercially available substance at all. Hemp contains very little detectable THC at all so why would it have CBD? I'm again just not seeing very much evidence here.
Even the high CBD strains that I have worked with trimming have got atleast 10-12% THC along with 3-12% CBD. Seperating the two cannabanoids would be difficult; but not impossible, requiring a significant amount.
Avidekel is a strain that purportedly has 1% THC and 15-17% CBD, but its only available from a Israeli pharmaceutical style cannabis company.
That is why its hemp oil fortified w/ CBD. I do not think hemp on its own necessarily has CBD oil in, hence "fortified" meaning adding too.
Someone correct me if I am wrong here.
Hemp has CBD in it. Very little. Wiki says - "Several industrial hemp varieties can be legally cultivated in western Europe. A variety such as "Fedora 17" has a cannabinoid profile consistently around 1% cannabidiol (CBD) with THC less than 0.1%.[34]
Extraction can be done with olive oil, ethanol, or CO2, and other nonpolar to semipolar solvents." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol#Industrial_hemp
Maybe they just use a shit ton of it since its so cheap in Europe.
Does this mean fortified products have more than just the regular low concentration typically found in hemp?
If the product is made from marijuana I cant say. If its made from hemp/CBD from hemp I can say if you are talking about THC it depends on the strain of hemp that was used. Check out this info from wiki -
"A total of 26 varieties of hemp with low levels of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) are certified by the European Union (EU).[55] They have, unlike other types, a very high fiber content of 30-40%. In contrast to cannabis for medical use, varieties grown for fiber and seed have less than 0.2% THC and they are unsuitable for producing hashish and marijuana.[56] The most important cannabinoid in industrial hemp is cannabidiol (CBD) with a proportion of 1 to 5%."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp#Cultivars
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Re: the thread about CBD oil [Re: Konyap]
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Konyap said: http://www.leafscience.com/2014/02/23/5-must-know-facts-cannabidiol-cbd/
There's so many websites selling CBD made from hemp its crazy if its truly illegal. I guess thats that gray area. I have also read that CBD does not get you high or does anything with in recreational means many times. The CBD products made from hemp seem to cause a effect tho, which leads me to believe its adulterated or other cannabinoids are responsible.
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