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wulyf
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Panic Attacks? Treatment?
#22181912 - 09/03/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Please help me with this, I'd appreciate it so much. For the past few months I've noticed I'm getting more and more panic attacks, a few months ago I done magic truffles and I've only just realised I had a panic attack on them, then whilst on a MDMA binge I had another and was put in hospital assuming it was something worse. Then 2 weeks later was in hospital again from a mephedrone binge. I had x rays and blood taken and they said my heart and everything is perfectly fine and the symptoms of everything were just panic attacks (sudden feeling of blood rushing to my feet, body jolting, dizziness, fear of death, headaches, heart pains & palpitations) I went to a festival at the weekend and was heavily drinking everyday (8-10 cans of beer a day roughly over 4 days, some vodka too) and on the last night done 2 lines of ketamine but thats all. On the train home I had a bad panic attack again that lasted around 8 hours due to being scared to fall asleep (body jolting a lot). But since I've come back I've had panic attacks everyday. My vision has got worse. I do have anxiety and I'm a massive worrier. I'm scared I'm going to always be like this, is it something that just passes? I'm going to see a doctor to discuss how I can treat it, but it's really ruining my life right now, being able to socialise and go out with friends is so hard because I'm worrying about when I'm going to have my next panic attack which is always everyday. I have no idea if it's just from what I put my body through at the festival that has made me worse, but I'm wondering if anyone else has been through panic attacks like this and got over them easy? I notice when I try and sleep too I seem to hallucinate slightly, like some shadows and areas in my room will turn green, or seem slightly underwater but this is not every time. Same when I close my eyes, I just see blue blobs that form shapes so it makes me more scared..
I think I should just stay away from drugs until I feel better, as I'm assuming every time I do drugs I'm going to have panic attacks now.. (also worrying that it could be something other than panic attacks but I know that's just my head worrying and playing games with myself and I'm probably 95% sure it's just panic attacks maybe just caused by a few years of drug use or years of having anxiety and never taking medication for it or having it treated, I don't know..)
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Re: Panic Attacks? Treatment? [Re: wulyf]
#22183474 - 09/03/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Panic attacks are brutal. Get a benzo prescription, it's better than traumatising yourself.
There are some methods that can help if it's not too neurological, if it's more psychological. For example, you can just let the panic attack take over in public, and after it subsides you will realise on a psychological level there's nothing to worry about. No one really cares that you're having a panic attack, some people find any sort of mental illness weird and may stare or smile, but that's just because they haven't had the life experience to know how to understand it. Everyone will just move on and forget about having seen you having your little panic in a short amount of time.
So aggravate it, is one method, just let it keep happening and keep reinforcing that there's nothing to worry about.
But it's a bit of a brutal method. You'll have a hell of a ride.
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Re: Panic Attacks? Treatment? [Re: wulyf]
#22183656 - 09/03/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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wulyf said: I think I should just stay away from drugs until I feel better
Good idea
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Re: Panic Attacks? Treatment? [Re: Hippocampus]
#22195416 - 09/06/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yea man def cut down on the drugs..
alcohol worsens ones anxiety as well, this is well known
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Re: Panic Attacks? Treatment? [Re: zZZz]
#22196822 - 09/06/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Breathing techniques can help. Stuff like breath in slow and deep for 4 seconds, then out slow for 4 seconds. Also learning to recognize it early on for what it is (panic attack, not you dieing) is helpful. The more you can be like 'oh im having a panic attack, I need to focus on breathing and remember that there is nothing wrong with me its only anxiety', the more manageable they become.
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Re: Panic Attacks? Treatment? [Re: Nova] 1
#22197424 - 09/06/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Benzos will make your anxiety worse in the long run. They will also ruin your life. Not worth it.
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Stop drinking heavily. Cutting back has helped my anxiety a lot. Granted, I still go overboard a little too often but I'm gonna pay for it for at least 3-4 days with horrible fucking anxiety. Its really not worth it most of the time
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Re: Panic Attacks? Treatment? [Re: wulyf]
#22208200 - 09/08/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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beta blockers
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Re: Panic Attacks? Treatment? [Re: sudly]
#22208309 - 09/08/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Are you prescribed them? I was thinking about looking into those as well
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Re: Panic Attacks? Treatment? [Re: wulyf]
#22208331 - 09/08/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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benzodiazapines
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Re: Panic Attacks? Treatment? [Re: sprinkles]
#22208339 - 09/08/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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when used as prescribed they are very helpful.
Abuse is another thing. Not everyone has an addictive personality and feels the need to abuse them.
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Yup, I told my gp I was having panic attacks and asked for beta blockers. They're usually used for speeches and such but are useful for any situation which may cause a panic attack.
Mentally you will still have anxiety but physically you show less symptoms so it becomes easier to deal with. People won't be able to hear your heartbeat anymore 
While you're there you may as well ask for some melatonin too, it helps with sleep.
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Re: Panic Attacks? Treatment? [Re: sprinkles]
#22208430 - 09/08/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I really disagree with those recomending medication. Meds are a last resort and i can not stress that enough. There are many lifestyle changes you can make and things you can do to learn to cope with anxiety and panic disorders.
Pills are not a cure. They do not permantly solve the problem they only mask it.
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Re: Panic Attacks? Treatment? [Re: Mental Taco] 1
#22208503 - 09/08/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Go eat a taco and don't complain about meds when we know how helpful they are, penicillin, antibiotics, cancer meds, pain meds etc. all of them have a purpose and they do it very well.
Meds like beta blockers are there for a reason and that is to reduce the physical symptoms of panic attacks. I doubt that he hasn't tried alternative methods like breathing and or meditation but they only go so far, often a boost is needed and that boost comes in the form of meds.
Beta blockers and melatonin are not dangerous, they are relatively cheap too. If someone where to eat a whole bottle of pills maybe things wouldn't work out but 1 pill can make huge difference to someones life if it is specified to help their problem.
If you know a lifestyle change that will cure or greatly help alleviate panic attacks then please share it. Panic attacks are a shitty thing to deal with, I've experienced my fair share, I tried for years to overcome them in an O'natural way but nothing came close to the effectiveness of a beta blocker.
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Re: Panic Attacks? Treatment? [Re: sudly]
#22208549 - 09/08/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I dont disagree with that. Meds can be extremely helpful. Alls im saying is that they are not as necessary as many believe them to be. Ive experienced daily debilitating panic attacks for years, after a great deal of research i have come up with a great deal of non-medicative means of dealing with them. I could write a damn book on it but the info is already out there...
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Re: Panic Attacks? Treatment? [Re: Mental Taco]
#22208563 - 09/08/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So you're gonna preach at us and then tell us to go look everything up?
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Re: Panic Attacks? Treatment? [Re: Mental Taco]
#22208624 - 09/08/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Panic Attacks? Treatment? [Re: Mental Taco]
#22209602 - 09/08/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i really disagree with people who think mental problems can be solved with a quick fix or some dumb ass magic wand or some other dumb bullshit.
Maybe if I just eat a bunch of that kratom and laxatives I'll shit and puke and all my problems will be cured...?
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Re: Panic Attacks? Treatment? [Re: sprinkles]
#22216778 - 09/10/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Definitely slow down on the substances. If you can, try the whole mind over matter thing. Analyze why you feel that way then use logic and talk yourself into calming down. Your brain has a great deal of potential, learn to control it, if you ask me. A benzo prescription may help but don't let it be a crutch. You need to train your brain for any long term relief.
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The thing about meds is that they give the user the experience of mind over matter and with that experience they can learn to overcome the feelings themselves. That's at least how I experienced it.
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Re: Panic Attacks? Treatment? [Re: sudly]
#22217496 - 09/10/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey, I mean if you can't obtain it on your own initially, I can totally see that. Good way to look at it. I just mean long term, if you can manage it without considerably losing any quality of life, then one should learn to reach that state of mind on their own.
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I guess the question then really is, do you want to spend the time doing it yourself? Or do you want to speed up the process with the aid of certain prescribed medications.
Some people don't like medications, some do. I am one of those who has benefited exceedingly well from certain medications. I use medications as a sort of emotional crutch, traumatising experiences are known to cause emotional damage. Sometimes people need help.
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