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Kasty12345
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Is it possible to trip when not on drugs?
#22181180 - 09/02/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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hey guys this s my first post, first let me give you some background. I have been pretty big into physcadelics and others drugs for majority of my life, and recently I had a family member pas away from od and this has inspired me to quit. I have been clean for about 3-4 weeks now and. And recently some pretty strange stuff has happened. I have begun starting to trip while not under the influence of anything. I get strong hallucinogen effects similar to that of like shrooms, and this has been happening randomly, it starts with a light headache and becomes quite intense , and I enter a period of 10-15 minutes of about a stage 2 trip of shrooms. This happens at random times and severely cripples me during work Obviously the trip is nothing like shrooms but of all the substances I have taken it resembles shrooms the most. I am scared that this will elevate and begin to give me saliva or dmt sequel l trips. I'm not sure if this is even possible or just my imagination trying to make me think I'm tripping to get me back on drugs. Any help relating to something like this would be greatly appreciated
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Re: Is it possible to trip when not on drugs? [Re: Kasty12345]
#22181214 - 09/02/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Essentially, Yes. I'm not too familiar with the topic but could possibly be HPPD.
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Re: Is it possible to trip when not on drugs? [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22181242 - 09/02/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have flashbacks occasionally. It's like a mini-trip, of sorts.
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Re: Is it possible to trip when not on drugs? [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
#22181372 - 09/03/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I find that if I dont space out my trips and let me receptors full down regulate I will get visuals for months after my last trip subtle, mostly peripheral but distracting non the less. especially at workk thats why I cant binge on cannabis after strong trips
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Kasty12345
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Alright this makes me think I'm not going crazy, but is there a chance that these "trips" will get more intense?
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Re: Is it possible to trip when not on drugs? [Re: Kasty12345]
#22183349 - 09/03/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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hppd, 3 years so yes its possible x)
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micropoint
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Re: Is it possible to trip when not on drugs? [Re: micropoint]
#22183375 - 09/03/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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but is there a chance that these "trips" will get more intense?
well you just dont want this to be more intense trust me. And yes.. there is a chance btw..
when am was on hppd... people told me come on man enjoy it, your tripping for free, all the fokin time.
lel ok .... tripping + mind pain + body pain + spiritual pain + lot of shitty sensation feling cold hot for no reason, sweat with no raisons.
feeling like a wash machine in your fokin head your view start to turn and you feel like your body is going in the sky, your like wtf was that, what just happen right now ?
and more and more and more stuff i can describe during that time....
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Edited by micropoint (09/03/15 03:24 PM)
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Re: Is it possible to trip when not on drugs? [Re: micropoint]
#22186478 - 09/04/15 05:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea, I dont have HPPD but I certainly dont want it
I would lay off the pyschs see if it helps
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Re: Is it possible to trip when not on drugs? [Re: mushpunx]
#22186496 - 09/04/15 05:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I get flashbacks every so often... Nothing major jus floor starts movin sorta shit... What's this hppd?
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Re: Is it possible to trip when not on drugs? [Re: micropoint]
#22186512 - 09/04/15 06:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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its just your brain knowing the way of fractal and tripping, i think its fairly normal. plus our brain never is a 100 % accurate machine. if you start looking at thing to look if its different , it probably will since you wernt paying that much attention before
if you start lossing total control ,or have episode where you lose touch with reality. you should seek a doctor and with med youll be back to normal but i doubt you have that
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micropoint said: but is there a chance that these "trips" will get more intense?
well you just dont want this to be more intense trust me. And yes.. there is a chance btw..
when am was on hppd... people told me come on man enjoy it, your tripping for free, all the fokin time.
lel ok .... tripping + mind pain + body pain + spiritual pain + lot of shitty sensation feling cold hot for no reason, sweat with no raisons.
feeling like a wash machine in your fokin head your view start to turn and you feel like your body is going in the sky, your like wtf was that, what just happen right now ?
and more and more and more stuff i can describe during that time....
this is obviously a loss of touch with reality, psychotic episodes (psychosis), not HPPD
OP probably dont have that
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Edited by Jean-guy Masta (09/04/15 06:07 AM)
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Re: Is it possible to trip when not on drugs? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#22186516 - 09/04/15 06:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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hppd man, no psychotic shit in my family.
stop with psychiatry thing, well i know hppd also came fro psy shit, but anyway it describe well what ive got in the past...
if am was psychotic, explain why am totally normal today so ? x) x)
if am was psychotic, i will be psychotic right now, if am was schizopren, i will have time to time ( or every day .. depend... ) any symptom right ?
so explain why am back to normal ?
During my hppd time, i know what i see was only hallucination and not real.
schizoprenic people cant told you if what they see are real or not.
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Edited by micropoint (09/04/15 06:13 AM)
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Re: Is it possible to trip when not on drugs? [Re: micropoint]
#22186532 - 09/04/15 06:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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HPPD is seeing things moving a bit ALL THE TIME some only sees white snow, small deformation ,ITS NOT LIKE A TRIP ,ITS ONLY VISUAL and its a CONSTANT thing
if you feel a change in perception and losing touch with reality from nowhere its a psychotic episode, they are known to come out of nowhere, you should read the stories of some users about their psychotics breaks. Its really a fuckin trip just like youre describing.
Seeing spirits when you are off drugs for 3 years is a obvious sign of skizofrenia. THIS IS NOT HPPD
edit: skizofrenic people can be really normal almost their entire life , some people only get 1 or 2 episodes in their life.
skizofrenic people are not retarded living in another world 24/7 dude, and yes most of them KNOWS its not real
Edited by Jean-guy Masta (09/04/15 06:25 AM)
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Re: Is it possible to trip when not on drugs? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#22186562 - 09/04/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So hppd is the "perma-trip" shit they fed us in high school
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Re: Is it possible to trip when not on drugs? [Re: tbarbeast]
#22186597 - 09/04/15 07:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yea pretty much , but its not permanent, most users get diminished symptoms after 1-2 months off drugs . and its not like a constant tripping feeling ,its just seeing mild hallucinations like visual snow.
if i remember well a user named gottaloveacid has real HPPD from binging alot of Acid and abusing frequently for a good period of time (i know his name is ironic ), if you have question towards HPPD you should probably ask him in PM
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micropoint
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Re: Is it possible to trip when not on drugs? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#22187027 - 09/04/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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HPPD is seeing things moving a bit ALL THE TIME some only sees white snow, small deformation ,ITS NOT LIKE A TRIP ,ITS ONLY VISUAL and its a CONSTANT thing
it was all the time and for 3 years stop bulshit now thanks.
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Re: Is it possible to trip when not on drugs? [Re: micropoint]
#22187237 - 09/04/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Is it possible to trip when not on drugs? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#22187290 - 09/04/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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bon aller mec enjoy ma liste de retarded people.
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Re: Is it possible to trip when not on drugs? [Re: micropoint]
#22187304 - 09/04/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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do you ever think you're a glass of orange juice that is just right on the edge of spilling over?
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Re: Is it possible to trip when not on drugs? [Re: lurkmode]
#22188565 - 09/04/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just don't toss it out the window. 
OP you might just be hypersuggestive about this. If it was me I'd just tough it out for a while, maybe write down the occurances, and see which way it's going. If you end up seeking medical help you're gonna need that journal anyway. 
OTOH you could have some sort of condition, the headache at the onset is suspicious. Are you getting ocular migrane auras? (Lovely scintillating patterns that grow - I've had them while straight and a few times while tripping) They can mess up the way your brain works for a while just like the ocular migranes mess up your vision. If it gets suddenly worse go to an ER as it could be serious shit.
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Re: Is it possible to trip when not on drugs? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#22188984 - 09/04/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm pretty certain I have HPPD. I'm able to stare at something (walls, floors, whatever) for 10 seconds and "go into it" just like on acid. Though, my kettle won't turn into a rocket ship like it would on acid, but it will certainly start warping and waving a bit. When I smoke weed I get v. trippy, to the point that object can start morphing and changing.
I've read about HPPD somewhat but I've never read anything like you;re suggesting (just tripping out of the blue) mine is always triggered by something (other drug use) so I would definitely advise laying off the drugs and for some people this does involve alcohol use as well - stone cold sober. I've noticed that the weeks where I didn't smoke weed or drink alcohol (IN ANY VOLUME/AMOUNT) my HPPD became much more mild and barely noticeable. Also, another thing I've noticed, it because worse when I worry about it.. also when I am tired/stressed it becomes much more enhanced.
I've had what has already been said "hey dud it's a free trip, enjoy it". 100% agree it isn't as simple as that and that it can become uncomfortable, and no matter how much of an experienced "tripper" you are it can be unfamiliar and scary to a degree.
Yeah, my advise, lay off the drugs. Granted you said you have been sober for 3 weeks, I'd probably continue down that path.
Also, I would like to note, I didn't notice my HPPD until 3-4 weeks after my last acid trip... so yeah, there's a commonality worth noting.
Safe man, take it easy! Much love
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