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Online drug dealer betrayed by poor opsec pleads guilty to importing molly
#22180047 - 09/02/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/09/online-drug-dealer-betrayed-by-poor-opsec-pleads-guilty-to-importing-molly/
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A Massachusetts drug vendor who bought methylone (also known as "molly") from China and was busted by the digital trail he left on the USPS tracking website has pleaded guilty to four drug-related charges.
Harold Bates was charged back in March 2014 with conspiracy to import methylone, importation of methylone, and possession with intent to distribute methylone, among other crimes.
According to a Tuesday court filing, Bates admitted to the top three charges, including the primary accusation of importing methylone, and one count of possession by an inmate in prison of a prohibited object.
In April 2015, the judge in the case ruled against Bates in his attempt to suppress evidence seized in those packages.
The judge’s memorandum and order explains that postal investigators found 500 grams of a substance that turned out to be methylone in a package to be delivered in Hollywood, Florida. That statement could suggest that investigators found the suspicious package first and then manually checked IP logs to see if anyone had been searching for tracking information. Once they located Bates’ IP address, they may have checked to see if it had been used to search for other packages.
But in the January 2015 affidavit, United States Postal inspector Stephen Dowd seems to imply that this link happened in a more automated fashion.
As he wrote, "The USPS database reflected that an individual using a computer or other device with IP address 75.67.6.214 accessed the USPS Track 'n Confirm website to track the progress of both the Florida Parcel and Bates Parcel #1."
Bates faces up to 20 years on each of the three methylone charges, and 10 years for the possession charge, but he likely will serve substantially less.
He will be sentenced in federal court in Boston on December 10
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Re: Online drug dealer betrayed by poor opsec pleads guilty to importing molly [Re: xpl0de]
#22180320 - 09/02/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's a shitty coincidence.
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Re: Online drug dealer betrayed by poor opsec pleads guilty to importing molly [Re: Detached]
#22180430 - 09/02/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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its like the only thing they can prove so uhmm yeaaaah
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Re: Online drug dealer betrayed by poor opsec pleads guilty to importing molly [Re: Konyap]
#22181270 - 09/02/15 11:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So don't check your tracking number. He didn't buy 500 grams of methylone for himself. He is part of the fake XTC problem, I hope he rots. He sold this as "molly" as no one ever sells it as methylone.
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Re: Online drug dealer betrayed by poor opsec pleads guilty to importing molly [Re: my3rdeye]
#22182309 - 09/03/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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^^Actually if he was going deep web he'd be getting real MDMA anywhere between $8-$13 (especially at that bulk) a gram that's purer than most anything we get here in the states.
But you're right, most likely he needed to be caught
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Re: Online drug dealer betrayed by poor opsec pleads guilty to importing molly [Re: my3rdeye] 1
#22182696 - 09/03/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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my3rdeye said: So don't check your tracking number. He didn't buy 500 grams of methylone for himself. He is part of the fake XTC problem, I hope he rots. He sold this as "molly" as no one ever sells it as methylone.
People definitely do sell methylone as methylone. I know LOTS of people who prefer methylone to MDMA. You can't just assume that anyone with methylone is a liar.
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Re: Online drug dealer betrayed by poor opsec pleads guilty to importing molly [Re: LSDylan]
#22183130 - 09/03/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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LSDylan said:
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my3rdeye said: So don't check your tracking number. He didn't buy 500 grams of methylone for himself. He is part of the fake XTC problem, I hope he rots. He sold this as "molly" as no one ever sells it as methylone.
People definitely do sell methylone as methylone. I know LOTS of people who prefer methylone to MDMA. You can't just assume that anyone with methylone is a liar.
For real. Some people do like rcs. Its not always an inability of finding the parent compounds. We dont know what this guy was actually selling it as so lets not shit all over him until we do know.
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Re: Online drug dealer betrayed by poor opsec pleads guilty to importing molly [Re: morbiddoctor]
#22183159 - 09/03/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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He was reselling it online as methylone.
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Re: Online drug dealer betrayed by poor opsec pleads guilty to importing molly [Re: D.M.T]
#22186205 - 09/04/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So what? Dont track packages?
Most people do use tracking it seems. Esp if its an overseas thing
Ive actually always thought about this though. If they just trace IP just because you wanna see where your package is. Never thought it would actually happen to someone in that kind of super manual paranoid nightmare way.
Wouldnt have found him if he just stayed away from the USPS tracking lol
Edited by Fractal420 (09/04/15 01:37 AM)
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Re: Online drug dealer betrayed by poor opsec pleads guilty to importing molly [Re: Fractal420]
#22186952 - 09/04/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Depends on the size/country. But hey, if you really want to/need to, use Tails OS with McDonald's WiFi. Otherwise be patient and check it if it's late by a day or two.
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Re: Online drug dealer betrayed by poor opsec pleads guilty to importing molly [Re: Atrium]
#22187083 - 09/04/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I always looked at it like if your package doesn't make it to you there's a reason and you don't wanna be checking on it at that point
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Re: Online drug dealer betrayed by poor opsec pleads guilty to importing molly [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22187374 - 09/04/15 10:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rebelutionsssss said: I always looked at it like if your package doesn't make it to you there's a reason and you don't wanna be checking on it at that point
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Re: Online drug dealer betrayed by poor opsec pleads guilty to importing molly [Re: Fractal420]
#22190317 - 09/04/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fractal420 said: Wouldnt have found him if he just stayed away from the USPS tracking lol
It says they found the suspicious package first. So they could still have done a controlled delivery. 500g is quite a lot. Maybe they wouldn't haven bothered for a few grams.
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Re: Online drug dealer betrayed by poor opsec pleads guilty to importing molly [Re: roquet]
#22191407 - 09/05/15 04:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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True. ^
i kinda really dont like methylone but the truth is, since its schedule 1 just like mdma now (even though some places still ship to the US really cheap...) i think scheduling or controlling a chemical is always a bad idea, but i guess the upside of this is that real MDMA is returning to the streets as a side effect as they are now equally risky to import. With methylone maybe even being more dangerous in the sense that it is sometimes called a "bath salt".
And apparently based on this article, just the title alone, they want it to be synonymous with "Molly"?
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Re: Online drug dealer betrayed by poor opsec pleads guilty to importing molly [Re: Fractal420]
#22205957 - 09/08/15 07:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Up to 20 years in prison for importing 500 grams of methylone? Jesus christ! Why aren't chomos being put away that long?
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Re: Online drug dealer betrayed by poor opsec pleads guilty to importing molly [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#22208724 - 09/08/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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A lot of shady online vendors do not release tracking info partly for this reason. Checking the tracking on a suspicious package means you can't really deny knowing about it anymore. I've had molly from darknet that tested to be completely free of organic impurities at least by the method used to test it (no, not reagent test). Some people do seek out methylone and I personally like it and think it has its place in any real psychonauts stash. Selling as MDMA definitely makes you a dick though.
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