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Mrcharlie86
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Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd
#22179584 - 09/02/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Habitat: Where does it grow? Eg. woods, pasture, state, province, country, altitude, etc. What does it grow on? Eg. soil, dung, wood (dead, living, what kind of wood?), etc. In pine straw mulch dirt combo , Gills: Color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc. Gills brown Stem: Length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc. Stems about 3 inch off white then bruised very blue kind of hollow Cap: Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc. About 2 inchs oval darker brown then bruise blue as well Spore print color: in process Very important! 
Bruising: Color that the mushroom bruises, if any. Vivd blue Other information: Scent of the mushroom, anything else you think is important, large close-up pictures showing stem, cap and gills.
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dormiens_vagila
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: Mrcharlie86]
#22179685 - 09/02/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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What color are the gills?
Have you taken a spore print?
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: dormiens_vagila]
#22179729 - 09/02/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If bluing is what your basing the activeness on, all Psilocybin mushrooms bruise blue, but there are also poisonous mushrooms that bruise blue! Other compounds oxidize blue too!!
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: antity]
#22179734 - 09/02/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also the area in which you live and more clear pictures are helpful in identifying the mushroom.
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dormiens_vagila
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: dormiens_vagila]
#22179761 - 09/02/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psilocybe subaeruginosa is one of my guesses, but its hard to derive information from your pictures
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dormiens_vagila
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: dormiens_vagila]
#22179772 - 09/02/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lactarius indigo is blue due to (7-isopropenyl-4-methylazulen-1-yl)methyl stearate
Polypores blue for other reasons than psilocybin oxidation, its enzamatic, but polypores and boletes have a sponge like mass in place of gills
What poison mushrooms bruise blue?
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dormiens_vagila
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: antity]
#22179783 - 09/02/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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antity said: If bluing is what your basing the activeness on, all Psilocybin mushrooms bruise blue, but there are also poisonous mushrooms that bruise blue! Other compounds oxidize blue too!!
My last post was in respond to this one, I forgot to quote it in my last post, sorry
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doctorghosty
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: dormiens_vagila]
#22179797 - 09/02/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks like some beefy caerulescens, where you located OP?
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dormiens_vagila
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: doctorghosty]
#22179850 - 09/02/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psilocybe caerulescens is a great guess, though its more common in Mexico, sometimes in the southern United States...
I guess Psilocybe subaeruginosa is an austrailian common species...so that was a bad guess
Psilocybe cyanescens was another guess of mine because it grows in the United States in urban areas and somewhat fits the description of the habitat described...
There's not enough information provided to.say anything for sure
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: dormiens_vagila] 1
#22180331 - 09/02/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't guess, baby, those are some caerulescens. Now we're just waiting for OP to confirm with a cromulent location
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: doctorghosty]
#22181177 - 09/02/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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doctorghosty said: I don't guess, baby, those are some caerulescens. Now we're just waiting for OP to confirm with a cromulent location
I like this guy, he knows his shit. "I don't guess" lol. Bad ass, with a TI tag to back it up.
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Mrcharlie86
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: SkagitHunter]
#22181967 - 09/03/15 07:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those where found in north GA 99% sure they are wiley eye . Please see the info I filled out in post regarding qualities
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dormiens_vagila
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: Mrcharlie86]
#22181998 - 09/03/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psilocybe weilii actually looks exactly like what you have, provided your in the section of Georgia they grow in...
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dormiens_vagila
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: doctorghosty]
#22182016 - 09/03/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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doctorghosty said: I don't guess, baby, those are some caerulescens. Now we're just waiting for OP to confirm with a cromulent location
In general I don't guess, but what can you do with such sparse information?
It would be dishonest of me if I were to say "I know what you have" without the region provided, a picture of the gills and a spore print provided, so I guess until the information is in.
If you do have Psilocybe weilii, and it looks like you do, you should consider yourself lucky, that's not a common mushroom, and most mycology enthusiasts never see one.
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dormiens_vagila
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: dormiens_vagila]
#22182043 - 09/03/15 08:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Though I did hold back on some guesses...the pointy little cap reminds me of Psilocybe hoogshagenii, but that's a Mexican mushroom, and they are smaller and more fragile than what you have...
Psilocybe weilii is most likely your mushroom...
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: dormiens_vagila]
#22182059 - 09/03/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psilocybe weilii is a psilocybin mushroom having psilocybin and/or psilocin as main active compounds. Originally mistaken for Psilocybe caerulescens var. caerulescens, it is named after Andrew Weil, the integrative medicine physician...
So, Psilocybe caerulescens was a good ID considering nobody knew the sample came from GA.
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doctorghosty
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Weilii are caerulescens
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: doctorghosty]
#22182097 - 09/03/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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doctorghosty said: I don't guess, baby, those are some caerulescens. Now we're just waiting for OP to confirm with a cromulent location
There's a little too much cromulence around here if you ask me.
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: Bud Fuggins]
#22182590 - 09/03/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I guess your right, though it's said that Psilocybe weilii only grows in northern Georgia, which I thought some how would have made it distinct from the Psilocybe caerulescens var. caerulescens that grows in Mexico, as well as Alabama, south Carolina, etc...
Preferred Synonym(s): Psilocybe caerulescens Murrill
Deprecated Synonym(s): Psilocybe weilii Guzmán, Stamets & F. Tapia, Weilii, Psilocybe caerulescens var. albida R. Heim, Psilocybe mazatecorum R. Heim, Psilocybe caerulescens var. nigripes R. Heim, Psilocybe caribaea Guzmán, T.J. Baroni & Tapia
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doctorghosty
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They were only differentiated by a microscopy mistake that has now been elucidated. I still call them weilii too, as that's what I grew up calling them
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doctorghosty said: Weilii are caerulescens
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: Psilocybe weilii is a psilocybin mushroom having psilocybin and/or psilocin as main active compounds. Originally mistaken for Psilocybe caerulescens var. caerulescens, it is named after Andrew Weil, the integrative medicine physician...
So, Psilocybe caerulescens was a good ID considering nobody knew the sample came from GA.
-E. Borodin
I don't think OP wants to satisfy our origin request the weillii may be caerulescens but caerulescens I don't think are specific to georgia alone (within the US I mean) I may be wrong here....
But it does seem weillii are pretty particular to what they want... They may be the landslide mushroom, but they still have weillii tendencies
I'm betting the Doc is right.
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: doctorghosty]
#22183018 - 09/03/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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doctorghosty said: They were only differentiated by a microscopy mistake that has now been elucidated. I still call them weilii too, as that's what I grew up calling them
That makes sense, thank you for the clarification.
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This is a picture of Psilocybe weilii from Georgia that I found online, beautiful fungi.
I still think the OP is very lucky, that's a very potent strain, and it's not common, good find!
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That is a very nice pick for him to compare
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: confuzzed]
#22185014 - 09/03/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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go Gophs
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#22185498 - 09/03/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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dormiens_vagila
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: Mrcharlie86]
#22186610 - 09/04/15 07:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mrcharlie86 said: More hunting today , even bigger find , defiantly Welilli field tested some on a co worker who had a great experience . I hope these pics are a little better , thank you to everyone that replied and has been patient , I'm from the west coast and unfamiliar with the SE region , but I knew I had a good find and there have been lots of stories of the Welli in this region . . Spore print finished a dark purple . 
Your lucky, that's an amazing find, be sure to leave a few left alone from where you harvest them so the will continue to return in that spot, unless they are plentiful enough where you would need not worry about that.
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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: dormiens_vagila]
#22186786 - 09/04/15 08:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Back to the same general area and doubled the score ! Provided 8 hours of a wonderful journey ! Spore print was light purple . Defiantly Welli . Thanks for the helpful responses and being patient with my OP. I am from out west and unfamiliar with hunting in GA but I knew I had a active find and have heard stories about the famed Weilli in this area . What a blessing ! Thanks again peace love and light
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