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    #22179584 - 09/02/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Habitat:
Where does it grow? Eg. woods, pasture, state, province, country, altitude, etc. What does it grow on? Eg. soil, dung, wood (dead, living, what kind of wood?), etc.
In pine straw mulch dirt combo ,
Gills:
Color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc.
Gills brown
Stem:
Length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc.
Stems about 3 inch off white then bruised very blue kind of hollow
Cap:
Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc.
About 2 inchs oval darker brown then bruise blue as well
Spore print color:  in process
Very important!

Bruising:
Color that the mushroom bruises, if any.
Vivd blue
Other information:
Scent of the mushroom, anything else you think is important, large close-up pictures showing stem, cap and gills.


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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: Mrcharlie86]
    #22179685 - 09/02/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

What color are the gills?

Have you taken a spore print?


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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: dormiens_vagila]
    #22179729 - 09/02/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If bluing is what your basing the activeness on, all Psilocybin mushrooms bruise blue, but there are also poisonous mushrooms that bruise blue! Other compounds oxidize blue too!!


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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: antity]
    #22179734 - 09/02/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Also the area in which you live and more clear pictures are helpful in identifying the mushroom.


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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: dormiens_vagila]
    #22179761 - 09/02/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Psilocybe subaeruginosa is one of my guesses, but its hard to derive information from your pictures


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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: dormiens_vagila]
    #22179772 - 09/02/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Lactarius indigo is blue due to (7-isopropenyl-4-methylazulen-1-yl)methyl stearate

Polypores blue for other reasons than psilocybin oxidation, its enzamatic, but polypores and boletes have a sponge like mass in place of gills

What poison mushrooms bruise blue?


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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: antity]
    #22179783 - 09/02/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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antity said:
If bluing is what your basing the activeness on, all Psilocybin mushrooms bruise blue, but there are also poisonous mushrooms that bruise blue! Other compounds oxidize blue too!!




My last post was in respond to this one, I forgot to quote it in my last  post, sorry


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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: dormiens_vagila]
    #22179797 - 09/02/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like some beefy caerulescens, where you located OP?


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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: doctorghosty]
    #22179850 - 09/02/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Psilocybe caerulescens is a great guess, though its more common in Mexico, sometimes in the southern United States...

I guess Psilocybe subaeruginosa is an austrailian common species...so that was a bad guess

Psilocybe cyanescens was another guess of mine because it grows in the United States in urban areas and somewhat fits the description of the habitat described...

There's not enough information provided to.say anything for sure


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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: dormiens_vagila] * 1
    #22180331 - 09/02/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't guess, baby, those are some caerulescens. Now we're just waiting for OP to confirm with a cromulent location


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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: doctorghosty]
    #22181177 - 09/02/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't guess, baby, those are some caerulescens. Now we're just waiting for OP to confirm with a cromulent location



I like this guy, he knows his shit. "I don't guess" lol. Bad ass, with a TI tag to back it up.


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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: SkagitHunter]
    #22181967 - 09/03/15 07:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Those where found in north GA 99% sure they are wiley eye  . Please see the info I filled out in post regarding qualities


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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: Mrcharlie86]
    #22181998 - 09/03/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Psilocybe weilii actually looks exactly like what you have, provided your in the section of Georgia they grow in...


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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: doctorghosty]
    #22182016 - 09/03/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't guess, baby, those are some caerulescens. Now we're just waiting for OP to confirm with a cromulent location




In general I don't guess, but what can you do with such sparse information?

It would be dishonest of me if I were to say "I know what you have" without the region provided, a picture of the gills and a spore print provided, so I guess until the information is in.

If you do have Psilocybe weilii, and it looks like you do, you should consider yourself lucky, that's not a common mushroom, and most mycology enthusiasts never see one.


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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: dormiens_vagila]
    #22182043 - 09/03/15 08:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Though I did hold back on some guesses...the pointy little cap reminds me of Psilocybe hoogshagenii, but that's a Mexican mushroom, and they are smaller and more fragile than what you have...

Psilocybe weilii is most likely your mushroom...


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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: dormiens_vagila]
    #22182059 - 09/03/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Psilocybe weilii is a psilocybin mushroom having psilocybin and/or psilocin as main active compounds. Originally mistaken for Psilocybe caerulescens var. caerulescens, it is named after Andrew Weil, the integrative medicine physician...


So, Psilocybe caerulescens was a good ID considering nobody knew the sample came from GA.

-E. Borodin


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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum] * 1
    #22182092 - 09/03/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Weilii are caerulescens


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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: doctorghosty]
    #22182097 - 09/03/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't guess, baby, those are some caerulescens. Now we're just waiting for OP to confirm with a cromulent location




There's a little too much cromulence around here if you ask me.


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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: Bud Fuggins]
    #22182590 - 09/03/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I guess your right, though it's said that Psilocybe weilii only grows in northern Georgia, which I thought some how would have made it distinct from the Psilocybe caerulescens var. caerulescens that grows in Mexico, as well as Alabama, south Carolina, etc...

Preferred Synonym(s): Psilocybe caerulescens Murrill

Deprecated Synonym(s): Psilocybe weilii Guzmán, Stamets & F. Tapia, Weilii, Psilocybe caerulescens var. albida R. Heim, Psilocybe mazatecorum R. Heim, Psilocybe caerulescens var. nigripes R. Heim, Psilocybe caribaea Guzmán, T.J. Baroni & Tapia

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Re: Defiantly active , super blue , still need firm I'd [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22182703 - 09/03/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

They were only differentiated by a microscopy mistake that has now been elucidated. I still call them weilii too, as that's what I grew up calling them


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