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OfflineFindingnewlight
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Seeking help - Bad trip
    #22179164 - 09/02/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hi xxx,

I am currently seeking help for my situation. I had a “bad trip” during the last time I took them. Just to put things into context. This was the third time that I took hallucinogens.
The first time that I took, it was mush ( 1g ) and the experience was blissful. Loved the experience, had a great time and left me very positive. A month after that, I took LSD for the first time. I took a bit too much and I had a serious bad trip. For two hours or so, I believed that I was dyeing and that it was the end for me. 5-6 hours after the bad trip started, I was calming down and I had a feeling of rebirth. The next days were actually very positive and gave me more strength. Felt like I could go through bigger challenges because I overcame that bad trip. A year has passed, and last weekend I decided to tae some mushroom with 3 of my friends. We took ( 1.5g ). After drinking it, 40 mins after the trip started, I got all of the same symptoms of panic attack. It took me about 2 hours to calm down and again I felt this “rebirth feeling” and I was ecstatic that I was still alive.
The very next day, I felt all right. Towards the end of the day, I smoke a small joint of pot. I smoke almost on a daily basis but for the past two months I stopped smoking during the weekdays. A bit after I was done smoking, I had a flashback. A panic started in me but I was able to calm it down after 20-30 mins. Slept fairly well. The next day, I woke up with a lot of anxiety. Not sure what was going on. I thought that I had some permanent damage from the mush. Went to work and once I arrived to the office, I had a full blown panic attack. Asked to go home, and I was able to calm myself down. As the evening progressed, my mood was better and I felt overall better. The very next morning, same situation happened as the day before. I got an anxiety/panic attack. Spoke to my family members about what has occurred and it made me feel better. As the day progressed, I felt better and better. That evening, I felt like I came back 100% to my old self. This morning I wake up, same thing happened. Anxiety and panic attack. I was wondering if this could be physical or purely psychological? Could this be PTSD? I am becoming desperate for help because I am afraid of loosing my job. I can’t be fully functional.

Thank you for any advice.


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Re: Seeking help - Bad trip [Re: Findingnewlight]
    #22179221 - 09/02/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

well... this looks shit man... like me in 2009 when it all started...

i suggest you to stop using any kind of drugs, mush smoking shit for a good time.

You know.... drugs..... attract bad entity.......



stay clean for a while....


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Re: Seeking help - Bad trip [Re: micropoint]
    #22179303 - 09/02/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

How long did it take you to come back to your own self?


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Re: Seeking help - Bad trip [Re: Findingnewlight]
    #22179354 - 09/02/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

lol.... i still seing thing right now... it started in 2009 we are in 2015.... hppd man x)

took mush only 15 times and ...... i got free hallucinations..

For sure its better now, but .... there is something more then those hallucinations, as i write it here on another post.....

i have some capacity, i am a medium person......


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Re: Seeking help - Bad trip [Re: micropoint]
    #22179457 - 09/02/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

correct me if im wrong but you dont look like youre abusing that much, so stopping everything wont change that much ,dealing with anxiety in trip is the ultimate first step. you need to learn how to swim if you want to go further in the pool.

sounds more like PTSD , and the thing with self drug induced PTSD is that its a constant circle of mental self evaluation and repression of yourself when actually there is nothing.its like looking for a black cat in a dark room, when there is not neccesrly a cat in the room. its a constant fixation to know if youre fully back or if things looks like it was before.

it will surely be different because before you were not paying that much attention,

the thing is getting confidence into trip , and letting go, some people likes to belive in spiritualism to help them cope with the trip. some people likes to have a benzo on hand and keep it for emergency only just to feel safer. lots of thing can help you with the anxiety, some people play music , I personally like to talk and pet my animals when things go a bit off track.

and most important dont trust yourself when youre high. youre high, you will come back normal.

edit: weed only made your PTSD more apparent since weed makes people much more self aware , and weed is kinda anxiolitic too and is a psychedelic so it even relate to your PTSD


Edited by Jean-guy Masta (09/02/15 06:33 PM)


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Re: Seeking help - Bad trip [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22179491 - 09/02/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

y'a pas que question de substance mon gars, y'a aussi les entités du bas astral, les drogues t’attirent vers le bas, et avec les mushs c'est l'enfer une fois que tu commences à bader sans arrét..

en reprendre ne ferait que aggraver a mort....


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Re: Seeking help - Bad trip [Re: micropoint]
    #22180354 - 09/02/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

You know.... drugs..... attract bad entity.......




They feed off of the anxiety/panic and ruin lives/relationships for fun or judgment.


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Re: Seeking help - Bad trip [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #22180436 - 09/02/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

you have to be content with yourself before diving into the dark depths of the mind


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Re: Seeking help - Bad trip [Re: Findingnewlight]
    #22181581 - 09/03/15 02:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Low blood sugar can trigger panic attacks. The body puts out adrenaline when the blood sugar goes too low. That you're feeling anxious in the morning, when you haven't eaten in awhile, points to blood sugar.

Staying away from carbs, (sugar and starch) helps to keep the blood sugar up -- and eating good protein foods.

Lacto/ovo vegetarian (milk, eggs, and veggies) is the best type of diet.


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Re: Seeking help - Bad trip [Re: endogenous]
    #22182162 - 09/03/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you all for your input! Yesterday night I was feeling a bit better and decided smoke a very small spliff and take a walk in a park where I feel very confortable. At first anxiety creeped it but I was able to shake it off while I was walking. Then as I walked, for a small moment I felt like myself again for a short amount of time. I was able to think about the badtrip because it's extremely vivid in my head and it didn't panic me. I was even able to smile. I continued for another hour doing some psychoterapy with my own self and I was only feeling better and better.

This morning I woke up with some mild anxiety. Breathing was a bit difficult but no PANIC ATTACK! I was still in a good mood, realized that this will take some time but big progress has been made. Tonight, I am going to for a walk again with a smalll spliff. It feels like it mellows me out in a good way and removes that fear factor and ups my mood considerably. Maybe not everyone reacts to pot the same way but that one attempt helped me tremendously.


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Re: Seeking help - Bad trip [Re: Findingnewlight]
    #22184252 - 09/03/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I will keep this somewhat of a journal. When I had my first panic attack after this event, I was looking all over the place to find how people were progressing and couldn't find. I am going to go on my walk with a joint, in my peaceful place and curious to see how I react. Yesterday night was a major success. I had an anxiety attack about 40 mins ago, a bit tense and dark minded. Let's see how it goes.


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Re: Seeking help - Bad trip [Re: Findingnewlight]
    #22184276 - 09/03/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

arrête de fumer, tu ne va que empirer la chose je suis passer par la x)

c'est finit pour toi les substances, enfin pour le moment oui. à voir comment ton cas évolue .....
C'est peut étre juste passager et je te le souhaite, par contre si tu vires comme je l'a fait avant.. t'es dans la merde + arréte de toutes substances oblige, par contre continue si tu veut finir chez les fous.. 


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Re: Seeking help - Bad trip [Re: micropoint]
    #22184386 - 09/03/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

relax, your eyes have been opened...you are just feeling the overwhelming anxiety brought about by the realization that most things you have been taught are incorrect. You are self aware, and now you need to take responsibility for yourself and your actions. You have become a complete person.


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Re: Seeking help - Bad trip [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #22184634 - 09/03/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Keep pushing and going! Dont give up and keep a positive attitude, and look at your fears in the face and set it in your mind that you're going to get free and eventually you will. Keep kicking ass man!


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Re: Seeking help - Bad trip [Re: Findingnewlight]
    #22184984 - 09/03/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Have any you went through a similar experience? If so, have you guys smoked weed to help you go through this. Yesterday, I felt at peace and amazing. Today was a bit rougher. I just feel that when I smoke up, I can have that conversation with myself that will set things clear.


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Re: Seeking help - Bad trip [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22191364 - 09/05/15 03:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Rebelutionsssss said:
you have to be content with yourself before diving into the dark depths of the mind




This is the ABSOLUTE truth. No doubt. However...I know that I, like most people, am not totally content with myself. So I keep doses relatively small nowadays. An 8th of mushies at most. Maybe this new season I will go big. But yeah.....bad trips can happen for multiple reasons. You are usually learning new things or having very emotional revelations about yourself and it can be scary. That is why you have to be comfortable with who you are as a person.


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Re: Seeking help - Bad trip [Re: FryersQuest]
    #22191900 - 09/05/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yesterday was a day of blessing! Woke up with some severe anxiety but went to work and from that point on I started feeling better and better. I am extremely lucky to be surrounded by wonderful friends and family. Had amazing walks and talks with closed ones and at night I had the best cure that can be. Hung out with a couple of friends, smoked up and all we did is laugh. Laughter is the best cure for whatever I had.
This is the first morning that I have no panic nor anxiety attack, nothing but a smile. This has been a very difficult journey with many lessons that are learned.


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