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Thoughts on lab grown vs. wild
    #22179148 - 09/02/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So I used to "fry" every Friday about 7 or 8 years ago. Then I went a long span where I didn't do them at all. In the last year I have done them about 4 times I think. 3 of the times were with my very own wild P. Stuntzii. The other time were with lab grown Cubes.

I experienced a mild amount of pain with the Stuntzii....as if my nerves were just overreacting. If I were to guess I would say it is a little bit like what fibromyalgia would feel like. With the lab grown Cubes I had a lot more euphoria and I don't recall having any pain.

Does anybody have any experience with this at all? What are your thoughts on lab grown mushrooms vs. ones picked in the wild?


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Re: Thoughts on lab grown vs. wild [Re: FryersQuest]
    #22179709 - 09/02/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Some people get muscle pain, stiffness and even temporary paralysis from woodloving psilocybe.  Never happened to me.  Guess everybody is different but I've found quite the opposite of what you've said- that cultivated cubensis are an uncomfortable, unpleasant time and wild woodlovers are a wonderful, euphoric and joyous experience.  Never tried stunzii though, cyans and ovoids are the woodlovers I have experience with.  The great thing about psilocybe is that every species has a little bit different personality based on potency and relative levels of indoles and there's something for everybody.  I particularly enjoy living in an area where I can hunt for a dozens different species to enjoy them all.  :lol:


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Re: Thoughts on lab grown vs. wild [Re: FryersQuest]
    #22181495 - 09/03/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ive noticed with ps. cyans there is a lott of unpleasant physical side effects.

Ive had stunzii, never had any bad physical side effects. Stunziis are my fav and are pictured in my avatar. Theey are a rare and special species to me :heart:

Ive also had home-grown (which i assume u mean by "lab grown") and home growns are the most cleanest shroom ive had, aside from wild pan cyans.

I believe its the wood substrate that determines the toxcity of the shroom.


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Re: Thoughts on lab grown vs. wild [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22181505 - 09/03/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ever try doing tea and discarding the mushrooms?  I find 90% of the discomfort is eliminated when you do tea.  I can take 2-3g dried cyans, trip bawls with visuals like LSD and an orgasmic roll-like bodyfeel like an empathogen and very little bodyload beyond being too far in hyperspace to stand up.  :lol:


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Re: Thoughts on lab grown vs. wild [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22181562 - 09/03/15 01:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

How do you make your tea? I read that the chemicals start losing potency at 100F but I know that some people just make normal hot tea and still trip.


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Re: Thoughts on lab grown vs. wild [Re: FryersQuest]
    #22182182 - 09/03/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Put dry mushrooms in 1/4 cup lemon or orange juice, let it sit for 5 minutes, add 1 cup of water and throw in a pot of water on the stove.  Let it come to a boil, stirring.  When the indoles are in an acidic solution they are very thermostable, you will not lose any potency.  Add some grated ginger, chamomile and let sit for 5 minutes, then strain and squeeze out every last drop.  Add some pom juice or whatever to cool it down and help with taste and get the volume back to one cup.  Drink.  Sit back and you will be tripping balls within 30-40 minutes.  It will hit hard, you will be peaking within the hour, past your peak within 2-3 hours, and coming down after 4.  By 6 the trip will be over.


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Re: Thoughts on lab grown vs. wild [Re: FryersQuest]
    #22182225 - 09/03/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I have found the opposite to be true with ovoids vs. cubes....I much prefer the ovoid trip. Problem is....sometimes those wood-lovers can kick your ass, even on a small dose.


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Re: Thoughts on lab grown vs. wild [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22182949 - 09/03/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Dude....thanks. that is awesome? Do you trip harder than normal?


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Re: Thoughts on lab grown vs. wild [Re: FryersQuest]
    #22183605 - 09/03/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

When doing tea vs. eating them you get the same amount of chemicals, it's just that tea gives you all of the dose at once whereas eating them takes longer to digest, metabolize etc. so it's a slow release.  Your peak will come faster and stronger, but be shorter and the whole trip will be about 3 hours less long.


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Re: Thoughts on lab grown vs. wild [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22183907 - 09/03/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Lab grown cubes? Whaaa?


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Re: Thoughts on lab grown vs. wild [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22184264 - 09/03/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So I would presume a smaller dosage would be necessary when doing this with a first timer?


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Re: Thoughts on lab grown vs. wild [Re: FryersQuest]
    #22184286 - 09/03/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I find woodloving mushrooms give off paralysis, as lab grown seem to be milder than wild mushrooms.. but thats just me.


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