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Re: #blacklivesmatter calls for murder of white people and cops, the race war discussion [Re: ReposadoXochipilli] * 1
    #22183101 - 09/03/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I have said it before and I will say it again.  Why do you want to grant the media a monopoly on messaging?  You have a mind of your own.  Use it.


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Re: #blacklivesmatter calls for murder of white people and cops, the race war discussion [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22183707 - 09/03/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If nobody reported on #blacklivesmatter, then would it be such a big thing?

I agree that the media seems to fuel these radicals with their incessant fear-mongering.


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Re: #blacklivesmatter calls for murder of white people and cops, the race war discussion [Re: OysterKing]
    #22183716 - 09/03/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

They exist solely because those assholes pay attention to them.  If they had to pay for the press they get they would be gone in a heartbeat.


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Re: #blacklivesmatter calls for murder of white people and cops, the race war discussion [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22183815 - 09/03/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Eliminate campaign donations, and other forms of bribery, stop outside groups from buying ads and the problem will be much smaller.


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Re: #blacklivesmatter calls for murder of white people and cops, the race war discussion [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22183841 - 09/03/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So you would grant the overwhelmingly liberal media a monopoly on messaging?


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Re: #blacklivesmatter calls for murder of white people and cops, the race war discussion [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22183857 - 09/03/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

They already have a near monopoly. We have to clean up the cesspool somehow and whining about how a solution isn't perfect keeps us in that cesspool.

Some regulation of the media would be good like for example exposing conflicts of interest.


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Re: #blacklivesmatter calls for murder of white people and cops, the race war discussion [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #22184006 - 09/03/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

No.  The only regulation that should be imposed on them is that they cannot refuse ads based on political content


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Re: #blacklivesmatter calls for murder of white people and cops, the race war discussion [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22184074 - 09/03/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

We need to expose their conflicts of interest. Being allowed to broadcast or publish their rags means they are like a utility in some ways. Let them say what they want, not being able to refuse ads as long as they aren't obscene or otherwise objectionable to community standards is a good idea. But when they push something like obumble care or whatever it may be, people want to know that they have accepted lots of cash from those business or political interests.

We also have to stop foreigners from buying ads to influence the elections. Why the hell should some rich chump in Saudi Arabia be able to put a few hundred million into a close race and pick the winner? That is a form of bribery too because the beneficiary of the ads is getting a contribution under the table.


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