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the dangers of psychedelics
#22178318 - 09/02/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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For me the dangers of psychedelics are the way you can start being delusional and believe in nonsense like sungazin, orgonites, ormus and all that kind of bullshit....
Damn why does this even happen... isnt it supposed that psychedelics make you smarter?
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: AIRDOG]
#22178325 - 09/02/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Generally the opposite is assumed, but naw, I think they can help people who are smart anyway. They won't increase your intelligence directly.
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: AIRDOG] 1
#22178335 - 09/02/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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happens when we forget that even though we are supposedly seeing all this truth and glory, we are still under the influence of a drug.
I think its sort of a right of passage though, learning the ropes of tripping so to speak.
Now I can have +5 trip without freaking out. I've learned how to swim.
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: hTx]
#22178379 - 09/02/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The most important thing to remember when you are in the throes of an epic dose and don't like it is that it will be over soon.
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: AIRDOG]
#22178417 - 09/02/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Question everything, especially the 'insights' psychedelics offer. Occam's razor is a very useful concept to keep with you at all time. The denizens of this site could do well to follow its guidelines more in general.
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: zappaisgod]
#22178420 - 09/02/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think the biggest danger of the classical psychedelics is impaired judgement, and doing something stupid or poorly coordinated under the influence because of it.
Not saying there are any direct dangers, especially for people with preexisting disorders, but blundering under the influence is a serious risk.
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: zappaisgod] 4
#22178434 - 09/02/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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2pm today,3g in chocolates
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: zappaisgod]
#22178438 - 09/02/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't worry, it will all be over... in ONLY 10 hours from now!
OH SHIT!
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: Bigfeely123] 3
#22178447 - 09/02/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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They can turn you into a glass of orange juice
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#22178481 - 09/02/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh no... mind as well jump off a roof before I turn into a glass of OJ.
My humble opinion, the greatest dangers of psychedelics... Going into fight or flight mode (because you think you're actually dying) & doing something that could really harm yourself when you're actually trying to save yourself.
OR...
committing suicide (like jumping off a roof) because you can't take the agonizing torture anymore & death seems like peace in that moment.
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: Asante]
#22178492 - 09/02/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Asante said: I think the biggest danger of the classical psychedelics is impaired judgement, and doing something stupid or poorly coordinated under the influence because of it.
Not saying there are any direct dangers, especially for people with preexisting disorders, but blundering under the influence is a serious risk.
That is why I tend to stay home. I've gone to concerts and Derbys on stuff before but I really eat a lot more these days than I did back then. No. Home is where I wanna be
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: zappaisgod]
#22178500 - 09/02/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It can be small things like choking on food or falling down stairs.
Yes staying home is the best.
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: Asante]
#22178553 - 09/02/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I got permanent HPPD from my first mushroom trip. It pisses me off that I have HPPD I wish I never tripped cause of it honestly.
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I had 9 years of HPPD too.. then one day it was just, gone.
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: Asante]
#22178579 - 09/02/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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HPPD is fucking gay man nobody warned me about it. There is an entire forum dedicated to HPPD sufferers but before my first trip nobody ever seemed to mention it as something that could happen. I got it on my first mushroom trip.
It isn't that bad but I think new people should be warned about it.
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IMHO hppd is just a part of waking up.
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Quote:
Bitter Cactus said: I got permanent HPPD from my first mushroom trip. It pisses me off that I have HPPD I wish I never tripped cause of it honestly.
Lol, wuss. Hppd is entertaining.
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: AIRDOG]
#22178637 - 09/02/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psychedelics make people smarter? The heavy psyche users I know are very slow in a lot of ways. They are often creative though.
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: Love_spirit]
#22178678 - 09/02/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Listening to music on LSD always shakes every fiber of my being, I don't just hear the music, I become the music
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: Love_spirit]
#22178898 - 09/02/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Love_spirit said: Psychedelics make people smarter? The heavy psyche users I know are very slow in a lot of ways. They are often creative though.
Lol...yeah....they understand "everything"....just can't explain it worth a shit.
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: zappaisgod]
#22178968 - 09/02/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: The most important thing to remember when you are in the throes of an epic dose and don't like it is that it will be over soon.
Little solace when the entire universe keeps looping every few seconds and a minute takes approx. 6 hours
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: twighead]
#22179102 - 09/02/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I understand what you are saying but it is a lifeline you can hold onto. If you can. If you can't you shouldn't be tripping at all.
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: zappaisgod]
#22179291 - 09/02/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Definitely true though, just the knowledge of knowing its not permanent when you're 'there' can really help.
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#22179356 - 09/02/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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OhMrJohnson said: Listening to music on LSD always shakes every fiber of my being, I don't just hear the music, I become the music
LSD and music is the best
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: twighead]
#22179371 - 09/02/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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twighead said: Definitely true though, just the knowledge of knowing its not permanent when you're 'there' can really help.
Sure, although getting to a place of waiting for it to be over can tend to sour things
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I've gone to concerts on acid and wandered around on acid. I've been to Kentucky Derbys on 'shrooms and the Leonard/Hearns closed circuit at Rupp arena. I do not trip like that any more. Either home or in an isolated space. I have exactly zero interest in dealing with anybody who is not also faceless or knows what facelessness is..
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: vinsue] 1
#22179827 - 09/02/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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vinsue said: 2pm today,3g in chocolates
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...and I'm back, didn't have any dangers. first trip in about 7 years and first time ever without alcohol. good times(at home) They came on quicker than I remembered though(noticeable at 30 min)
Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen_persisting_perception_disorder#Symptoms I didn't know it even had a name. I still get that and have for years.. Used to treat it with 
I always thought that was part of the territory...seeing halos, floaters, and shit when not tripping.(also hearing thangs.) I wasn't sure how I'd feel again, tripping,whatever, but like zig says it was fun. I see more trips in the very near future...
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: vinsue]
#22179869 - 09/02/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Woo hoo welcome home, traveler.
I too get some occasional residual silliness. They only manifest themselves when I close my eyes and relax and they aren't much in any case. Kind of a slight warpage. Meh.
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: vinsue]
#22179891 - 09/02/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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By the way, I also was taken aback by the rapidity of onset the last time I left earth. I felt shit in 15 minutes and within 60 I was borderline unconscious. I did not recall it being that fast. It certainly never was with acid for me
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: zappaisgod]
#22179977 - 09/02/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm glad i got this little test trip out of the way. I've been very apprehensive all week about tripping again.
Now I can plan accordingly for the next few journeys, maybe invite the wife, if she cares to. I've actually never tripped with her, it might not be such a good idea after all...
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: zappaisgod]
#22180156 - 09/02/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh its a good idea alright
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: twighead]
#22180243 - 09/02/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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A while back I remember reading a thread someone posted saying that they wanted to trip with their wife. Well it turns out things went pretty bad for his wife & afterwards she wanted the drugs banned from the house. Her wanting the drugs out of the house was based solely on her bad trip. Personally, I think the cons outweight the pros. (The only pro being that you have a good experience together.)
Obviously vinsue & anyone else knows more about their significant other then someone on the internet though.
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22180286 - 09/02/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psychedlics mimic a lot of symptoms that people with mental illness have.
Maybe they're just enlightened.
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: vinsue]
#22181021 - 09/02/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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vinsue said: I'm glad i got this little test trip out of the way. I've been very apprehensive all week about tripping again.
Now I can plan accordingly for the next few journeys, maybe invite the wife, if she cares to. I've actually never tripped with her, it might not be such a good idea after all...
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tripped with my SO a few weeks ago..twas her first trip and she loved it.
we had a great time and learned a lot.
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Re: the dangers of psychedelics [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#22181218 - 09/02/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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OhMrJohnson said: Listening to music on LSD always shakes every fiber of my being, I don't just hear the music, I become the music
That's what I'm saying. The musical Enhancement on LSD surpass the musical enhancement on mushrooms IME
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