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Brown Coloring on Stems
    #22177937 - 09/02/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Looking at some mushrooms that are about to pop veil and a couple have brown areas that kind of look like waves(best way I can describe it) on the bottom of the stem near the substrate that becomes more minimal as they go up the stem and eventually fade away to the normal white of the stem. They go up about a half inch. Never seen it before on mushrooms. Honestly, it looks natural to me but just curious what it is.

No pics.

Anyone have an idea or anyone ever seen this before?

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Re: Brown Coloring on Stems [Re: Digitizer]
    #22177944 - 09/02/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Should have added: The brown color is just on the texture of the stem. There is nothing noticeable growing on the stem. The stem just appears to be colored brown a bit.


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Re: Brown Coloring on Stems [Re: Digitizer]
    #22177984 - 09/02/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)


Like this?


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Re: Brown Coloring on Stems [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22178098 - 09/02/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thats it alright.


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Re: Brown Coloring on Stems [Re: Digitizer]
    #22178124 - 09/02/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)


Or.more like this?
Bacterial contamination


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Re: Brown Coloring on Stems [Re: Digitizer]
    #22178556 - 09/02/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hmmmmmm.... I would say it looks more like LocN9ne more. But it looks similar to you bodhisatta pic too.

Some have the vert stripes that I have seen before. But the other stuff looks a bit different.

Lets say it is a bac contam. Then what? Not edible? Will it be ok once its dry? Should I keep that cake going after the pull with another dunk and roll? ps... I am never gonna grow in this spot ever again as we are moving in another month.

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Re: Brown Coloring on Stems [Re: Digitizer]
    #22178577 - 09/02/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Looking at it closer I would say that some have the LocN9ne brown and two have the bac contam.


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Re: Brown Coloring on Stems [Re: Digitizer]
    #22178810 - 09/02/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The ones I posted were bacterial contamination. Most people would call it verticillium  which is now known as (lecanicillium fungicola)

http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Rasoul_Zare/publication/5351586_A_revision_of_the_Verticillium_fungicola_species_complex_and_its_affinity_with_the_genus_Lecanicillium/links/0c96051c57a6285137000000.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verticillium_dry_bubble

but after doing microscopy and some other things to investigate the ailment in my mushrooms

thread about my mushroom infection

and found out it was actually 100% solely a bacterial problem.


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Re: Brown Coloring on Stems [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22178878 - 09/02/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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LocN9ne said:

Like this?




Looks like verticillium in your pic. See how the mushroom is bent to one side and the stem is fucked up? Classic vert. Brown streaks on the stem are a telltale sign too.


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Re: Brown Coloring on Stems [Re: NumeroEno]
    #22178883 - 09/02/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't be so sure until you do microscopy

A suggestion is to harvest a fruit and put it into a plastic baggie and wait a few days if it becomes over grown with cubensis mycelium great, if it becomes over grown with vert then...


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Re: Brown Coloring on Stems [Re: bodhisatta]
    #22178897 - 09/02/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think vert is becoming the catch-all here for any infection that causes anything brown, whether it be spots or streaks,  and ANY kind of cap malformation.

Everyone is saying everything is vert now.  Where was all this vert a few years ago?


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Re: Brown Coloring on Stems [Re: Inocuole]
    #22178934 - 09/02/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Looks 100% bacterial to me.  I don't see any evidence of anything else.  Perhaps lower temps would favor the mushroom over the bacteria.

People like to put names on things, but those names often don't hold up to scrutiny.  For example what people like to call Trichoderma often turns out to be Penicillium if you sequence the DNA.




this was in regards to my "Vert" and the results of the micrographs I took.


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Re: Brown Coloring on Stems [Re: bodhisatta]
    #22179788 - 09/02/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Bodhisatta... thanks a bunch for all the info. Checked it out and it was very helpful.

So...... can I eat these things er not? hehe


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Re: Brown Coloring on Stems [Re: Digitizer]
    #22179802 - 09/02/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Without pics, nobody's gonna want to say definitively if you should eat a mushroom.  Generally though, yes, just run it through the dehydrator to kill whatever it is first.


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Re: Brown Coloring on Stems [Re: Inocuole]
    #22179854 - 09/02/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So, been reading around a bit. And from what I understand is..... if you dry out the yield they are safe to eat.

1) Do you guys agree?

Also, the cake I am referring to is the last one of the bunch. It was the first flush and was quite a bit bigger flush than any of the other cakes we did. Big full nice mushrooms the size of my index finger(I am a big dude). I know I can flush more off of it and as stated previously... this is our last grow in this spot as we are moving soon.

2) Should I dunk and Roll and give it another go?

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Re: Brown Coloring on Stems [Re: Digitizer]
    #22179863 - 09/02/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Inoculole.... thanks!


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