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cronicr



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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: tahoe]
#22178382 - 09/02/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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there's no need to click any mushroom, that's an old wives tale i didnt' even watch the vid , i never do lol!
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: cronicr]
#22178466 - 09/02/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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They're not cyans, they're Albino A+ psilocybin cupidous mushrooms!
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: stareatclouds]
#22178527 - 09/02/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I twist and pull whenever I can because I don't like to leave stumps of cut mushrooms to possibly get rotten. If your going to rip half the top of your pf cake off trying to pull it then get a knife. if it's going to leave a divot in your substrate like a drunken golfer with an overly aggressive 9 iron. Then you should cut it off. it's a judgement call. that's why you get diffrent answers from diffrent people.
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: hago hongo]
#22178600 - 09/02/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've never had cut stumps go rotten on me, but I don't mist my tubs with fresh cuts exposed. I give them a few days to fuzz over. When I do a twist and pull, on occasion, and too much sub comes along with the mushroom, I feel as though the mycellial network, close by, is disrupted, slowing the growth of the neighboring fruits. Of course, as my grows are slowly transitioning from MS > Clone > Isolate, mass harvesting may change my opinion.
I have 3 harvesting knives. Super cheap dollar store serrated steak knives, heated, and bent, so that there is a 2" cutting edge, parallel to the substrait. One for cutting from the left, one for cutting from the right, and one straight knife for the occasional side pin...
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: tahoe]
#22178658 - 09/02/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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tahoe said: See, I thinking cutting gets old when there are a lot of mushrooms. I didn't know that the video showed cyans. Those are a different story. Cyans are sensitive to multiple flushes. They also grab onto the wood chips with dear life. People also flick the caps to let spores loose. There is no need to do that with cubes
The video does not show Psilocybe cyanescens and flicking the cap to let spores loose is pointless, because the mushrooms naturally drop spores...
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: tahoe]
#22180230 - 09/02/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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tahoe said: See, I thinking cutting gets old when there are a lot of mushrooms.
Try it with scissors. You'll be slicing through them like nothing.
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: Kizzle]
#22180294 - 09/02/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I could the the hedge trimmers and take them all out in one pass. Do you try to cut real low ava get as much stem as possible when using scissors? That would take to long in my book. Our do you leave a stump in there.
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: tahoe]
#22180351 - 09/02/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just cut as low as I can at the base of a cluster most of the time. I like to cut it so the cluster is still together, but as far down as I can get it, yeah. If I don't give a fuck I'll twist and pull them all.
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: Inocuole]
#22180374 - 09/02/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I remember talking to pasty about this and we both noticed a trend. The craters left by ripping subs rarely contaminate. The stumps seem to be trich magnets. Not sure why . Other than that there's no difference. Both stumps and trenches can develop knots and pins for subsequent flushes.
Also yeah besides contamination, stumps won't rot. Mushrooms are rot .
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: Mad Season]
#22180390 - 09/02/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I did notice the stumps being kinda gross after a while. Still better than ripping out all the pinning surface. Call me old fashioned but I still like my second and third flushes if they're apt to grow.
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: Inocuole]
#22181189 - 09/02/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stumps do get gross. Just like large aborts. That is why I yank them all.
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: tahoe]
#22181243 - 09/02/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yep, I much prefer, twist and pull. Or knock them over then twist and pull.
I'd rather have a torn up substrate then stumps. Both have potential for contamination on a second flush anyway.
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PussyFart
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: GreenRabbit]
#22181323 - 09/03/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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GreenRabbit said: Yep, I much prefer, twist and pull. Or knock them over then twist and pull.
I'd rather have a torn up substrate then stumps. Both have potential for contamination on a second flush anyway.
A stump will not contaminate any more quickly than bare colonized substrate.....a divot ripped in the substrate will......
The stump may turn greenish blue, but that does not mean its contaminated....they often turn back into mycellium and pins form on them....
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: PussyFart]
#22181363 - 09/03/15 12:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Accurate. No argument. I still don't like cutting them down with a blade though. I prefer single flush tubs if I have the spawn ready.
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Inocuole
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: GreenRabbit]
#22181367 - 09/03/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've had my stumps grow mold on them but I've also had decent second flushes come in depending on the variety and spawn ratio. It's really hard for me to justify yanking them. I hate seeing the craters a good cluster leaves behind, and the fact that I'm probably gonna cut it anyway to get the sub off... If anything I just advocate cutting really fucking close to the substrate.
That or my shears were contaminated.
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: Inocuole]
#22181380 - 09/03/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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What is your 2nd flush to 1st flush yield ratio? Mine is 25% of first flush at best.
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PussyFart
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: GreenRabbit]
#22181389 - 09/03/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I usually get about 35-50% of my first flush on the 2nd....then I usually toss.
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: PussyFart]
#22181392 - 09/03/15 12:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ghost0420 said: Why do two trusted cultivators have to say contradicting things?
If they all said the same thing, there wouldn't be a point to having more than one...
I just realized we're talking about cakes here. I definitely wouldn't leave stumps on cakes, they are so dense by harvest time that pulling fruits off won't leave a pit
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: GreenRabbit]
#22181396 - 09/03/15 12:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Depends, with some varieties like APE I end up getting about 60-70% of the first flush amount in the second, and then another 40-50% of that in the third. Or at least with that clone anyway..
Often enough, I don't get much at all, but typically that's because I've managed to coax the majority out in the first.
Oh and yeah, always twist and pull with cakes. 
Lower spawn ratios seems to come out to more flushes, with less during the first than usual.
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Re: Is this how you harvest cultivated Psilocybe cubensis? [Re: Inocuole]
#22181403 - 09/03/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Depends, with some varieties like APE I end up getting about 60-70% of the first flush amount in the second
So your saying not to twist and pull your penis?
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