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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: qman]
    #22197586 - 09/06/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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People do leave their homes, it's only you who is insisting on warrants and stakeouts. :lol:

Again, take away the freebies, their illegal jobs, and the anchor baby policy and they will leave on their own. 

Why you have this vision of knocking down doors is your issue, unfortunately someone who looks Hispanic will have to deal with a few inconveniences, so be it.





You are ignoring the issue. You are the one who brought up the idea of "We know where they live". Again, I have never said 0% of them will leave if you take away the "freebies". Please quote me otherwise. I know you cant. I'm not sure why you would bring that issue up again.

How do you expect to catch them out side of their homes or place of stay when they leave it? Do you have a better solution than stake outs? Where are the resources going to come from? What do you do about it?

Really? You think its okay for Hispanics to deal with prejudices being enforced on a government level? Do you even know the pledge of allegiance?
Do you know what African Americans have gone threw? Look it up you will see what it would be like for Hispanics within where prejudices and racism is concerned. You are wrong on so many levels. Your taking a huge step back in society by holding that position. :facepalm:

If you are under the age of 18, do let me know so I can show some mercy on you, as others as well. I mean this in a serious manner. No offense intended.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22197820 - 09/06/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Wong, trumps platform has been posted in the political forum and discussed at length. At least he has a plan unlike the other dufus' running for office.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22197857 - 09/06/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You do not feel the need to emphasize on any specifics from it?


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22197903 - 09/06/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Illegal immigration?







There is nothing illegal about the immigration of Europeans to a country that didn't exist


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22197962 - 09/06/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I did not look into it, but I'm assuming he's talking about invading the Native Americans...mmm right?


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22197973 - 09/06/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22198000 - 09/06/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I know this sounds off topic however the exact same situation applies. Is it right? Is it wrong? Thats up to you.






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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22198037 - 09/06/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Power has to be on your side to maintain ownership or to own something.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22198237 - 09/06/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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There is nothing illegal about the immigration of Europeans to a country that didn't exist




:ohyou:




You image says "since 1492". Can you post your sources of which the claims are being made by? The "power" sort of to speak. Maybe some native governments or something? Can we consider that obsolete now? Maybe there are some Native American organizations that are claiming ownership with the lack of power?

I can see it as a possibility.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22198267 - 09/06/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Are Mexicans more European or more 'Native'? Im more in fear of what is happening in Europe, Mexicans are pretty ok for the most part.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22198272 - 09/06/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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336 said:
Quote:

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336 said:
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zappaisgod said:
There is nothing illegal about the immigration of Europeans to a country that didn't exist




:ohyou:




You image says "since 1492". Can you post your sources of which the claims are being made by? The "power" sort of to speak. Maybe some native governments or something? Can we consider that obsolete now? Maybe there are some Native American organizations that are claiming ownership with the lack of power?

I can see it as a possibility.




I lol at your bureaucracy.

Lol I swear history is ironic as it is ridiculous. One day humanity will look back on us with shock and disbelief how a group of people could conquer and all-but-exterminate a people and then a few hundred years claim that the descendants of the few survivors are "illegal immigrants"

It's fucking hilarious I swear.





those 'survivors' didnt originate there, they came from somewhere else

so guess what "illegal immigration since 12,000BC"


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22198302 - 09/06/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

qman said:

People do leave their homes, it's only you who is insisting on warrants and stakeouts. :lol:

Again, take away the freebies, their illegal jobs, and the anchor baby policy and they will leave on their own. 

Why you have this vision of knocking down doors is your issue, unfortunately someone who looks Hispanic will have to deal with a few inconveniences, so be it.





You are ignoring the issue. You are the one who brought up the idea of "We know where they live". Again, I have never said 0% of them will leave if you take away the "freebies". Please quote me otherwise. I know you cant. I'm not sure why you would bring that issue up again.

How do you expect to catch them out side of their homes or place of stay when they leave it? Do you have a better solution than stake outs? Where are the resources going to come from? What do you do about it?

Really? You think its okay for Hispanics to deal with prejudices being enforced on a government level? Do you even know the pledge of allegiance?
Do you know what African Americans have gone threw? Look it up you will see what it would be like for Hispanics within where prejudices and racism is concerned. You are wrong on so many levels. Your taking a huge step back in society by holding that position. :facepalm:

If you are under the age of 18, do let me know so I can show some mercy on you, as others as well. I mean this in a serious manner. No offense intended.




"where are the resources going to come from?"

The deportation of illegals has a great return of investment, keeping them here and pissing away tax money on their social services has many asking "where are the resources going to come from?".

"Do you know what African Americans have gone threw?" 

I do, yet I don't see any leaving for Africa.

"You are wrong on so many levels"

Nope, the vast majority of the American people want the enforcement of the current immigration laws, if that includes mass deportation they will also support that approach.

"If you are under the age of 18"

:lol: I most likely have double the time on this planet that you have had, but I could be wrong.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22198304 - 09/06/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
There is nothing illegal about the immigration of Europeans to a country that didn't exist




:ohyou:




Quote:

336 said:
I lol at your bureaucracy.

Lol I swear history is ironic as it is ridiculous. One day humanity will look back on us with shock and disbelief how a group of people could conquer and all-but-exterminate a people and then a few hundred years claim that the descendants of the few survivors are "illegal immigrants"

It's fucking hilarious I swear.





mmmm... hmmm... I thought I was fairly understandable. I'm not the one making the rules or Governments of the world. You can hold on to your stand point but that does not change how the world works.

I'm simply a viewer of the world. It's not my bureaucracy that you are speaking of. I do not control the complicated structures and regulations. I was simply looking for understanding however if you want more people to agree with you, that's not a good response, you have not caught my attention to come any were near the understanding that you might have of the situation and have failed to answer any of my questions regardless of how the world functions.

Regardless pris has a point: "those 'survivors' didnt originate there, they came from somewhere else

so guess what "illegal immigration since 12,000BC"


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22198319 - 09/06/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If there are no immigration laws how can there be illegal immigration?  Do you people even think at all?


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22198358 - 09/06/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I have no intention of respecting every fucking whackjob  creation theory.  They invaded from asia.  Later they got invaded from europe and africa.  Tough fucking shit.  They were no lesser assholes than the people who kicked their ignorant asses.  Romanticizing them and believing they lived a peaceful bucolic life is the height of ignorance


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22198382 - 09/06/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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336 said:
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I have no intention of respecting every fucking whackjob  creation theory.  They invaded from asia.  Later they got invaded from europe and africa.  Tough fucking shit.  They were no lesser assholes than the people who kicked their ignorant asses.  Romanticizing them and believing they lived a peaceful bucolic life is the height of ignorance




You're ideas are nothing but theories. You have no proof that the natives immigrated from anywhere. They just as easily could have originated in the Americas.

The only reason you repeat that line is because of the biased anthropological society who just a hundred or so years ago claimed that Africans where not even human beings...





I am not sure that I have seen a more stupid, ignorant and misinformed post in my entire time here.  And I have seen a bunch of Bill O'Reilly's and stonehenge's posts


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: qman]
    #22198393 - 09/06/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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"where are the resources going to come from?"

The deportation of illegals has a great return of investment, keeping them here and pissing away tax money on their social services has many asking "where are the resources going to come from?".

"Do you know what African Americans have gone threw?" 

I do, yet I don't see any leaving for Africa.

"You are wrong on so many levels"

Nope, the vast majority of the American people want the enforcement of the current immigration laws, if that includes mass deportation they will also support that approach.

"If you are under the age of 18"

:lol: I most likely have double the time on this planet that you have had, but I could be wrong.




Thank you for not taking any offense at my response. I feel I can converse with you with out guilt now since we are on level - adults.

"has a great return of investment" << Please post your sources of what that return will be. It also would not hurt for you to post how much money is used towards the illegal immigrants in comparison towards the general population.

I'm not sure why they would return to Africa. They have come a long way with their struggles. The point of that was to show you what your implications are - the want to burden amongst the Hispanic population with similar prejudices and conditions. 100% legal Hispanics/Mexican people. I'm still not sure why you would want to do that.

This is a Constitutional Republic we live in, not a pure democracy. You still can't violate rights legally such as searching a house with out a warrant or probable cause. You still have not explained on the means that will be took to catch the illegal immigrants legally. You also have not posted any sources yet. There will never be voting on this subject. There is going to be no more of a mass deportation as there is now in the sense of the process of deportation that takes place.



How do you expect to catch them out side of their homes or place of stay when they leave it? Do you have a better solution than stake outs? Where are the resources going to come from? What do you do about it?


It's clearly understood houses will not be searched with out probably cause or a warrant. A Hispanic being in a place of residence does not count as probably cause.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22198410 - 09/06/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Zap thinks its ok to steal land as long as you have the power to take it and keep it. That is the only law he respects. On the internet anyway, in real life anyone who steals from him will be reported to the cops and he will have a major fit.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22198412 - 09/06/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

In what sense are you talking of? 12,000BC? Or the invasion within regards towards the Native Americans?


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22198415 - 09/06/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Are you saying that homo sapiens, absent any other apes, evolved separately in the Americas and are a different species than those that evolved in Africa?


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