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OfflineDr.Wongburger
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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22188751 - 09/04/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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If they catch them at the border they can throw them right back.  If they overstay their visa they can throw them right out.




So if they find that they have overstayed their visa they are found guilty.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-happens-when-undocumented-immigrant-is-caught.html

Placement Into Removal Proceedings
"Once an undocumented immigrant is taken into custody, the deportation officer will make an initial determination as to whether to place the person into removal proceedings and, if so, how to charge the person. Most often, the charge will be unlawful entry into the U.S., overstaying a nonimmigrant visa, or one of various criminal grounds, if you were previously arrested and convicted of a crime.
In order to initiate removal proceedings, the deportation officer will serve you and the Immigration Court with a Notice to Appear (NTA). The Notice to Appear lists the charges against you. You then have the right to see an Immigration Judge.
If you do not agree with the charges, you can fight them. Even if the charges are correct, you may still be eligible for relief from removal. For a discussion of possible defenses, see “Possible Defenses to Deportation of an Undocumented Alien.”
Removal proceedings can be lengthy, sometimes taking years to complete. As long as you do not have a prior order of removal, nor sign agreement to your deportation or accept voluntary departure, you will not be immediately deported just because you are caught."

If you are caught in the act of crossing the boarder :

https://cirblog.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/how-illegal-immigrants-are-processed/

"Normally, illegal immigrants caught by the Border Patrol are eligible for “voluntary departure,” which means they are put on a bus once they pass a criminal background check and returned to Mexico without charges.

When an area sees a steep increase or excessive illegal immigration problems, however, the Border Patrol sets up a designated “no tolerance” zone. Illegal immigrants caught there can be sent to federal court for misdemeanor charges of entry without inspection and then face a trial and deportation. They could face felony charges and jail time if they are caught trying to cross a second time.

The maximum penalty is six months in jail and removal from the U.S. Those convicted are then barred from legal reentry for five years and 20 years for a second removal."

"Most are transported by vehicles to a processing center for identification and classification. There they are read their rights, which are similar to the Miranda rights read to U.S. citizens.

They are notified of their right to an attorney, to remain silent and are asked if they understand their rights as explained, Ramos said."


Definition of Voluntary departure :

http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/litigation/voluntary-departure

"A grant of voluntary departure means that a person is permitted to depart the United States voluntarily, and typically at his own expense, in lieu of being deported. The LAC has been involved in litigation and advocacy involving the interplay between voluntary departure and the right to file a motion to reopen, and has issued several practice advisories addressing various aspects of voluntary departure."

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/voluntary-departure-who-is-eligible.html

"Pre-hearing voluntary departure is not available to a non-citizen who is stopped at the U.S. border. Also, aggravated felons and noncitizens engaged in terrorist activities are ineligible for pre-hearing voluntary departure."

"However, if you believe that you may qualify for immigration relief, such as political asylum, cancellation of removal, or adjustment of status, you might be better off waiting until you can see an immigration judge to present your full case. At that time, you will (assuming you meet the eligibility requirements described below) have additional chances to ask for voluntary departure."

Innocent until proven guilty.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22188754 - 09/04/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So why don't u go back to Europe? :ohwell:


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22188762 - 09/04/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I am actually part native.  Passamaquoddy, to be precise.  But that is an argument made by idiots.  Even the natives are invaders.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22188767 - 09/04/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

They're technically not since there was no one here before them but I still see what you are saying


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22188829 - 09/04/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Mammoths were here and they wiped them out.  Are you some kind of speciesist?


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22188838 - 09/04/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Have you ever had use of the services of illegal immigrants Zappa? Professionally or privately?


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Asante]
    #22188860 - 09/04/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm pretty sure Zappas has fucked a few chola hookers here in there.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Asante]
    #22188886 - 09/04/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Have you ever had use of the services of illegal immigrants Zappa? Professionally or privately?




I have never hired any but I suspect restaurants I have gone to have.  My landscaper is a citizen.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Asante]
    #22188893 - 09/04/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Asante said:
Have you ever had use of the services of illegal immigrants Zappa? Professionally or privately?




Ahhh... Nothing like drinking a cup of coffee and discussing illegal immigrants.  :laugh2:


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22188898 - 09/04/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Asante said:
Have you ever had use of the services of illegal immigrants Zappa? Professionally or privately?




I have never hired any but I suspect restaurants I have gone to have.  My landscaper is a citizen.




I guess they just cant get rid of them right away. :grin:


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22188909 - 09/04/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Why not?


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22188924 - 09/04/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You like italian food? Chinese? Indian?  All of these restaurants house immigrants as well as American Citizens.....


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22188929 - 09/04/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Why not?






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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: InfiniteToker]
    #22189028 - 09/04/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You like italian food? Chinese? Indian?  All of these restaurants house immigrants as well as American Citizens.....




What part of illegal vs legal do you not understand?


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22189060 - 09/04/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I understand both parts.  Just stating that most of the workers in our favorite eatery's are illegal....


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: InfiniteToker]
    #22189069 - 09/04/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I doubt there are any illegal Italians, Indian, or Chinese immigrants these days.

If you are referring to the fact that there places house illegal Mexican immigrants then that's a different story


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22189076 - 09/04/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I actually was...Specifically Mexican.:raisemyglass:


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: InfiniteToker]
    #22189094 - 09/04/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I actually was...Specifically Mexican.:raisemyglass:




You know what.. come to think about.. legit hardcore mexican food is probably best made by Mexicans fresh from Mexico. mmmm I need to check out a Ponchos some time soon here.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22190297 - 09/04/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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If you're a US citizen, I don't think there will be anything to worry about, in fact most Americans would be welling to sacrifice a small inconvenience for the effort to remove these illegals.

The real tyranny is being invaded in your own country, their removal will be liberating both economically and culturally.

I really wouldn't get caught up in the logistics, it's not going to take detective work to find them. :lol:




I'm not willing to give up any of my Liberty or rights for this cause. Logistics or management of the supplies and transport required for this operation is very on spot and important in relation to this issue. The handling of this operation would be major in importance if it will cause you to have loss of rights or liberty's.

After all, the definition of liberty is as follows - Personal freedom from servitude, confinement or oppression. - freedom from arbitrary or despotic control

Why would I want to allow my Government to oppress me more than it has?

I'm not sure why any one would want to enable despotic control upon the people.

It would be arbitrary to allow such means: Based on or subject to individual discretion or preference or sometimes impulse or caprice.<<<<




"It would be arbitrary to allow such means"

Nope, simple logic would work.

"subject to individual discretion or preference"

God forbid someone used commonsense and discretion. :facepalm:


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22190577 - 09/04/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Dr.Wongburger said:
Quote:

InfiniteToker said:
I actually was...Specifically Mexican.:raisemyglass:




You know what.. come to think about.. legit hardcore mexican food is probably best made by Mexicans fresh from Mexico. mmmm I need to check out a Ponchos some time soon here.




I think most wouldn't have a problem with sacrificing a few ethnic food joints for the good of our country. Although placing a side order of an eight ball with your burrito dinner would be a thing of the past. :sad:


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