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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22183502 - 09/03/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Everyone gtfo.

I belong here as I was born here. That's what the last guy thought a while back as well. Doesn't always work out.




The idea is if some one was born and raised here, deportation is a insane idea because it would be like sending a person to a foreign nation. This is took into account. A Libertarian view would not stand for that idea- deporting a person who might of even came here at 5 or 6 years old and was raised here.




That's really the fault of their parents, they entered the US illegally and gave birth, a anchor child is going to be striped of their citizenship and deported, just like what every developed nation does today.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: qman]
    #22183519 - 09/03/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

We'll the parents usually anchor themselves down in the country through marriage and then a keep a nukka in the country baby if they know what's good for them.

It's standard procedure.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #22183534 - 09/03/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Eliminate the jobs for illegals and they will deport themselves. Those who don't, can be rounded up. I don't expect all to be gone in one year but the more the laws are enforced the better. As it is now under the idiot in the white house, there are more coming over every day.

We can reverse the flow, elect trump, he is the only one who will do it. Jeb won't do it, the bitch won't do it and biden or sanders won't do it. Only trump has the guts to do it.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22183545 - 09/03/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Trump will tan your ass after he tans all the immigrant's asses.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22183546 - 09/03/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Eliminate the jobs for illegals and they will deport themselves. Those who don't, can be rounded up. I don't expect all to be gone in one year but the more the laws are enforced the better. As it is now under the idiot in the white house, there are more coming over every day.

We can reverse the flow, elect trump, he is the only one who will do it. Jeb won't do it, the bitch won't do it and biden or sanders won't do it. Only trump has the guts to do it.




This would require a green card for every one with verification. The Government would be going door to door. I think the idea is just impossible. If any one thinks the whats going on is crazy with the drug war?! Wait until they see Government start busting into houses under the suspicions that some one is housing a illegal immigrant!


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22183584 - 09/03/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

There is no excuse for the inability of the government record keepers to verify the description of the people using fraudulent IDs.  They are incompetent tools.  When Reagan signed the amnesty bullshit in the 80s there were supposed to be huge penalties for employers who cheated.  Yeah.  Didn't happen. 

Here is who profits.  Politicians.  Cheating business owners.  Illegal scum.

Here is who loses.  American workers.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22183615 - 09/03/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

hmmm.. I never thought of that, in the sense of they should be catching the fraudulent information while its processed. That would definitely help things.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22183631 - 09/03/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The incompetence is disgraceful


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22183634 - 09/03/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Eliminate the jobs for illegals and they will deport themselves. Those who don't, can be rounded up. I don't expect all to be gone in one year but the more the laws are enforced the better. As it is now under the idiot in the white house, there are more coming over every day.

We can reverse the flow, elect trump, he is the only one who will do it. Jeb won't do it, the bitch won't do it and biden or sanders won't do it. Only trump has the guts to do it.




This would require a green card for every one with verification. The Government would be going door to door. I think the idea is just impossible. If any one thinks the whats going on is crazy with the drug war?! Wait until they see Government start busting into houses under the suspicions that some one is housing a illegal immigrant!




The legals already have a green card or are citizens. You hire someone with no proof of citizenship, no green card and no valid ss number, you the employer should get big fines. Its not rocket science, its pretty easy. Cut off the employment and they deport themselves. The few who don't get rounded up and put in jail. No more limo rides to the border, hard jail time then they are deported to a destination of our choosing.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22183643 - 09/03/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I am very much in favor of sending the South Americans to Tierra del Fuego and the Europeans to Siberia regardless of country of origin.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22183664 - 09/03/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
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Dr.Wongburger said:
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Stonehenge said:
Eliminate the jobs for illegals and they will deport themselves. Those who don't, can be rounded up. I don't expect all to be gone in one year but the more the laws are enforced the better. As it is now under the idiot in the white house, there are more coming over every day.

We can reverse the flow, elect trump, he is the only one who will do it. Jeb won't do it, the bitch won't do it and biden or sanders won't do it. Only trump has the guts to do it.




This would require a green card for every one with verification. The Government would be going door to door. I think the idea is just impossible. If any one thinks the whats going on is crazy with the drug war?! Wait until they see Government start busting into houses under the suspicions that some one is housing a illegal immigrant!




The legals already have a green card or are citizens. You hire someone with no proof of citizenship, no green card and no valid ss number, you the employer should get big fines. Its not rocket science, its pretty easy. Cut off the employment and they deport themselves. The few who don't get rounded up and put in jail. No more limo rides to the border, hard jail time then they are deported to a destination of our choosing.




Rounding them all up- 15 million people just does not seem plausible. How many people where rounded up in the holocaust, something like 16-20 million? How did they do that, didn't they go door to door using guns demanding every one to come out so they could get the Jews out from amongst them?


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22183819 - 09/03/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

>Rounding them all up- 15 million people just does not seem plausible

If you had read my post you would see the answer is to stop them from getting employment. Then they round themselves up and leave.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22184803 - 09/03/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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>Rounding them all up- 15 million people just does not seem plausible

If you had read my post you would see the answer is to stop them from getting employment. Then they round themselves up and leave.




Ahahaha.

You still think its possible tho. I feel like that would just push many of them into doing other means for gaining money or what ever they do for work would just become illegal if not already. It will still exists. There are citizens here who make money threw illegal means with out a job. Some times for many decades with out getting caught, even with a warrant out for their arrests. What would lead a person to assume that a illegal immigrant who has learned English would not be able to do the same?

What is your supposed number of people who would be estimated to be left over? Is there a estimation of how many of those millions of people would leave on their own?
Does Trump have sources for his estimations, or did they just make up some numbers?


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22184834 - 09/03/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Dr.Wongburger said:
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Stonehenge said:
>Rounding them all up- 15 million people just does not seem plausible

If you had read my post you would see the answer is to stop them from getting employment. Then they round themselves up and leave.




Ahahaha.

You still think its possible tho. I feel like that would just push many of them into doing other means for gaining money or what ever they do for work would just become illegal if not already. It will still exists. There are citizens here who make money threw illegal means with out a job. Some times for many decades with out getting caught, even with a warrant out for their arrests. What would lead a person to assume that a illegal immigrant who has learned English would not be able to do the same?

What is your supposed number of people who would be estimated to be left over? Is there a estimation of how many of those millions of people would leave on their own?
Does Trump have sources for his estimations, or did they just make up some numbers?




Take away their illegal employment, take away their freebies (health care, education, food stamps, welfare, public housing, ect.), and take away the anchor baby policy and they will leave on their own.

The one's that don't leave will be deported, it's really not that complicated.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: qman]
    #22184852 - 09/03/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The anchor babies are constitutionally protected.  Their parents are not.  Out.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22184864 - 09/03/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The anchor babies are constitutionally protected. 




That can be fixed, the rest of the developed world did it, so can the US.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: qman]
    #22184902 - 09/03/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Do you have any idea how hard it is to amend the Constitution?


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22184998 - 09/03/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It still needs to be done.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: D.M.T]
    #22185049 - 09/03/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'd love to see it but it aint happening Don Quixote.


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Re: Every one wants to get rid of the illegal immigrants [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22185100 - 09/03/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm more Sancho, but thank you.


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