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TedTheHighlighter
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misting and fanning questions
#22175845 - 09/01/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hope to be able to mist and fan my cakes (using pf tek) about 2-3 times a day. Will this be enough? I also plan on using a shotgun fruiting chamber and perlite Another question I have is should I fan then mist or mist then fan Any info on misting and fanning, or growing in general would be appreciated
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iSmkGrnBud
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Always mist then fan. Unless you can see visible moisture on pins, then just fan. No mist. Evaporating moisture is a major pinning trigger. That plus FAE causes growth in the fruit bodies.
Misting and fanning as much as possible is best imo, but you dont want to over due it either. 2-3 daily would be ideal with use of SGFC, like you said.
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Re: misting and fanning questions [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
#22175894 - 09/01/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Glad to hear it and thanks for the feedback
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Re: misting and fanning questions [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
#22175934 - 09/01/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im a new grower, (so with a grain of salt, like any newbie) but IME, over misting can be almost detrimental. How much you need to mist THEN fan depends slightly on what the ambient RH is in your area. Where i live, (rh is very high) my cakes Turn out beautifully when i just leave it to one mist a day, and a few fans.
But as far as cakes go, SGFC is the way to go. And i reccomend making sure You get coarse grade perilite. It provides humidity and fae more effectively; again, IME.
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Re: misting and fanning questions [Re: bodhisatta]
#22176252 - 09/01/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its personal preferance cos I have always misted first with no problems Quote:
bodhisatta said: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19279962
THIS. nice write up bodhisatta
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fanning is optional, it's riddled with holes
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Re: misting and fanning questions [Re: cronicr]
#22176518 - 09/01/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said: fanning is optional, it's riddled with holes
I never fan my hybrid monotub shotguns. Those things have plenty of FAE.
RR said he designed the SGFC around only being able to mist it once a day if I'm not mistaken, maybe twice.
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Machiavelliavore said:
I never fan my hybrid monotub shotguns. Those things have plenty of FAE.
We do not fan for fae..........
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Re: misting and fanning questions [Re: PussyFart]
#22176644 - 09/02/15 12:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The mist evaporates just fine without fanning. They don't get waterlogged. They don't build up CO2.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
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Mist your cake as many times a day as needed to keep the cake glistening with water. I see post after post with cakes dryer than a popcorn fart. Not sure what that means, but always wanted to say it.
Why is there an order in which to fan and mist. Why does it matter?
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Re: misting and fanning questions [Re: tahoe]
#22177399 - 09/02/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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tahoe said: Why is there an order in which to fan and mist. Why does it matter?
We fan out the chamber after mining for a drop in RH, so there is more room in the air for evaporation to take place....it is not needed in a proper SGFC, but that is the reason we do it....not for FAE, not for a drop in co2.....
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Re: misting and fanning questions [Re: PussyFart]
#23756999 - 10/21/16 05:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am new to this, but when you say that the reason for fanning is to drop the Relative Humidity in order to stimulate pinning, the order to start with misting before fanning craps it up, so should be the other way around. Or have I misunderstood and do you mean something different by RH? Even if done in reversed order, the humidity drop would have the a very short duration: the interval between fanning&misting and I can't imagine this is relevant. At other places people say fanning is to decrease CO2 because that stimulates fruitbody growth. Maybe contaminations are less likely to infect the mycelium when misting is done first?
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Re: misting and fanning questions [Re: maanvin]
#23757047 - 10/21/16 05:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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maanvin said: I am new to this, but when you say that the reason for fanning is to drop the Relative Humidity in order to stimulate pinning, the order to start with misting before fanning craps it up, so should be the other way around. Or have I misunderstood and do you mean something different by RH? Even if done in reversed order, the humidity drop would have the a very short duration: the interval between fanning&misting and I can't imagine this is relevant. At other places people say fanning is to decrease CO2 because that stimulates fruitbody growth. Maybe contaminations are less likely to infect the mycelium when misting is done first?
You mist to keep the substrate at an optimal moisture and you fan it to promote evaporation.. Water evaporating off the substrate is a pinning trigger..
If it's getting 'crapped up' from misting you are likely misting too heavily.. You want the sub to be glistening but you do not want pooling water..
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Think about it this way, YOU live in a sauna, you need evaporation off your skin to grow. The RH in your sauna gets insane so when anyone opens the door to the sauna there is a rush of cool air into the sauna removing a large part of the RH and the moisture on your skin can evaporate. Your skin doesn't evaporate moisture well when the water content in the air is near or equal to the moisture content on your skin. Get it?
Remove the RH so better evaporation can take place. We mist then fan to partially saturate and then promote evap.
Not to derail/jack but how are your trays space?
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Edited by PortabellaFella 1 (10/21/16 06:15 AM)
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Quote:
PortabellaFella 1 said:
Not to derail/jack but how are your trays space?
This was a year old thread that guy bumped I wouldn't worry about it lol..
They're doing good.. At one point the myc seemed to slow down at about 95% colonization and I conferred with a friend of mine who deduced through pics that the sub was too dry.. I misted to correct the problem, put the lids back on and continued to wait.. Checked yesterday and the trays were knotty with some primordia, so I went ahead and put em in fruiting conditions..
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Oh Jesus, I didn't even look at the fookin time stamp lol Awlright man good shit, bump your thread with some pin porn
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TedTheHighlighter
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Lol, didn't expect to see this thread have some new comments
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I am also new to growing and am not sure if I’m doing it right. I’ve reached the fruiting stage and this is 2 days after I cut my all in one grow bag




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Re: misting and fanning questions [Re: Micoameicu]
#28069397 - 11/25/22 07:51 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Micoameicu said: I am also new to growing and am not sure if I’m doing it right.
no - bumping 6 year old threads is not 'doing it right'
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Re: misting and fanning questions [Re: Micoameicu]
#28069466 - 11/25/22 08:45 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Cut that foil down to roughly the size of your cake.
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