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OfflineCrentistTheBensis
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Question regarding the randomness of MS
    #22175460 - 09/01/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hello everyone,

I recently harvested a flush from a monotub and a bulk cake, both from the same MS syringe. I understand that every jar (and possibly every mushroom) *correct me if I'm wrong* will have different genetics and therefore will vary in many aspects, including potency. I have sampled the tubs fruits and they are pretty underwhelming (lesson learned, I'm switching to agar) but not yet the cakes fruits. My question is two part,
A) is there a chance that the cakes fruits will be altogether a different situation in terms of potency seeing as it was spawned from a separate jar than the 4 I used in the tub?

B) The second flush is coming through in the tub, can I expect the same low potency, or due to it being MS will this flush be it's own story all together?

Sorry for the novel, I wouldn't have even asked if I could find something relatively similar in the search.

I appreciate any guidance you all can offer.


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Re: Question regarding the randomness of MS [Re: CrentistTheBensis]
    #22175546 - 09/01/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Each and every mushroom may contain different levels of actives, as well as different characteristics, such as height, weight, shape, ect.
Which is why people isolate/clone genetics; To obtain mushrooms of the same phenotype.


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Re: Question regarding the randomness of MS [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22175593 - 09/01/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

the short and easy answer is that its MS.  variation will occur, within flush, btw flushes, btw substrates, etc.

make sure u are drying them completely and storing them correctly. 


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Re: Question regarding the randomness of MS [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22175613 - 09/01/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

How do you recommend storing?


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Re: Question regarding the randomness of MS [Re: CrentistTheBensis]
    #22175625 - 09/01/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks guys, I appreciate the clarification. Ive got some agar on the way because isolates sound really interesting and rather rewarding as well. As for drying I have a Nesco food dehydrator that I run at 145 until cracker dry. I keep the dried fruits in a mason jar and they don't stick around long enough to do much in terms of degradation. Thanks again, you guys are rad.


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Re: Question regarding the randomness of MS [Re: CrentistTheBensis]
    #22175651 - 09/01/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

They'll last longer in that mason jar if you get one of those hand pumps to vacuum seal the jar.


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Re: Question regarding the randomness of MS [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22175665 - 09/01/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

YaMoonSun said:
They'll last longer in that mason jar if you get one of those hand pumps to vacuum seal the jar.




Could you just place a silica packet in there? Asking because I will be at that stage soon hopefully.


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Re: Question regarding the randomness of MS [Re: PoIIo]
    #22175692 - 09/01/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think people do that as well. I prefer the air tight seal, but whatever floats your boat. :goodluck:


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Re: Question regarding the randomness of MS [Re: PoIIo]
    #22175705 - 09/01/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I heard desiccant packs (silica, etc) are the way to go for long term storage. I'm not sure on the tek for that, nor have I ever tried it, but something tells me a food saver bag and a desiccant pack is a step or two in the right direction. Here is a link on the subject, I'm going to do a little research of my own on it, now that it's been brought up. Good luck man!

http://www.shroomery.org/10615/Desiccants-and-drying


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Re: Question regarding the randomness of MS [Re: CrentistTheBensis]
    #22175724 - 09/01/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So the link I posted is mainly about desiccant drying, but I does mention that a silica pack in an airtight container is good for maintaining dryness. I don't think it's a bad idea.


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