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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22175574 - 09/01/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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DTCharlieB said:
I don't like being talked to like that as much as the next guy but a sarcastic "oh gee, thanks" with maybe an eye roll would have sufficed.  And fact of the matter is you don't know for sure what happens either.  Passing that off as truth is ignorant.  In my opinion anyone who believes they are 100 percent certain in what happens after you die is an ignoramus. Whether they believe in an afterlife or nothingness or a flying dick saucer that collects souls, or whatever.

Get over yourself. Once you realize you don't know everything you become much more intelligent in my book.




C'mon man the brain is everything. The fact that we can even talk about a complex subject like existence or after death is a product of our sophisticated brain. When you cut brain functions you cease to exist. You ever been under a general anesthetic for hours and then wake up? That always tripped me out.

You didn't have a brain before birth therefore no sense of time or existence or nothing. Once your brain dies the same thing will happen. Its the same reason near death experiences are total bullshit. Those people still had a functioning brain under stress giving them these hallucinations.


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #22175627 - 09/01/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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mtlmike90 said:
I know this will sound arrogant but I'm 26 very educated and a successful scientist.





I'll pray for you, maybe you'll find salvation and get out of that hokey science cult you're involved in


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: Detached]
    #22175631 - 09/01/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Detached said:
Bill O'Reilly is still out on science.





Whats that supposed to mean?


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22175632 - 09/01/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

mtlmike90 said:
I know this will sound arrogant but I'm 26 very educated and a successful scientist.





I'll pray for you, maybe you'll find salvation and get out of that hokey science cult you're involved in





This. You tell em', pris


edit: perhaps OP can get in on a nice 3-way with Bill Nye and Richard Dawkins. They can have crazy sex and when they all are about to cum, instead of screaming "oh god oh god oh god" then can scream "OH FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER OH FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER OH FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!!"


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


Edited by Bill_Oreilly (09/01/15 08:27 PM)


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22175638 - 09/01/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
science is changing its story by the freaking day.





there's a reason for that bill, it's because we learn new things each day

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Its attempt to figure out the earth/universe is respectable, yet laughable.




and what has religion explained


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22175642 - 09/01/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
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mtlmike90 said:
I know this will sound arrogant but I'm 26 very educated and a successful scientist.





I'll pray for you, maybe you'll find salvation and get out of that hokey science cult you're involved in





This. You tell em', pris





would you stop trolling my trolling... it just aint right!


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22175663 - 09/01/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
science is changing its story by the freaking day.





there's a reason for that bill, it's because we learn new things each day

Quote:

Its attempt to figure out the earth/universe is respectable, yet laughable.




and what has religion explained





things are changing, yes, but they don't change that quick. The universe isn't much different now than it was 40 years ago. But according to science, its much different :lol:



and about religion...I never mentioned it. I was just talking about science.


--------------------
Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #22175678 - 09/01/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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mtlmike90 said:
Quote:

DTCharlieB said:
I don't like being talked to like that as much as the next guy but a sarcastic "oh gee, thanks" with maybe an eye roll would have sufficed.  And fact of the matter is you don't know for sure what happens either.  Passing that off as truth is ignorant.  In my opinion anyone who believes they are 100 percent certain in what happens after you die is an ignoramus. Whether they believe in an afterlife or nothingness or a flying dick saucer that collects souls, or whatever.

Get over yourself. Once you realize you don't know everything you become much more intelligent in my book.




C'mon man the brain is everything. The fact that we can even talk about a complex subject like existence or after death is a product of our sophisticated brain. When you cut brain functions you cease to exist. You ever been under a general anesthetic for hours and then wake up? That always tripped me out.

You didn't have a brain before birth therefore no sense of time or existence or nothing. Once your brain dies the same thing will happen. Its the same reason near death experiences are total bullshit. Those people still had a functioning brain under stress giving them these hallucinations.




Stop pushing your beliefs on me!

I never stated what I believes happens after death.  But I sure as hell don't know and I don't pretend to.


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22175685 - 09/01/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
science is changing its story by the freaking day.





there's a reason for that bill, it's because we learn new things each day

Quote:

Its attempt to figure out the earth/universe is respectable, yet laughable.




and what has religion explained





things are changing, yes, but they don't change that quick. The universe isn't much different now than it was 40 years ago. But according to science, its much different :lol:



and about religion...I never mentioned it. I was just talking about science.




I like the way you talk carl.

Mmmhmmm. Gonna go get me some French fries potaters now.


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22175700 - 09/01/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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mtlmike90 said:
and when you die you will go back to that prior state of darkness for eternity.





Looks like you believe in fairy-tales just as much as him.

Bro..just because you know how old the damn universe is don't try and act better than people. You KNOW his intentions meant well...so what the fuck? The dude has his beliefs and you have yours. Like another poster said, you should have thanked him and moved on with your life.

science is hilarious. It defines "nothingness" as :everything" and "everything" as "nothingness".

science is changing its story by the freaking day. Its attempt to figure out the earth/universe is respectable, yet laughable.




Bro... believing in darkness after death is not a fairy tale like the tooth fairy, santa, and god.

Actually there is no piece of science that says the universe was created from nothing. We don't know what happened before the big bang or if a "bang" even occurred. What we do know is that the universe is rapidly expanding as we have mathemetical and somewhat observable evidence that show all matter started from some kind of infinitely small singularity 14bya. This doesn't mean the universe come from nothing.

However the Net energy of the universe = 0 and I think that is where the confusion is. The law of conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed and this is fact. Frankly I don't want to go one with all this sci jargon so I suggest you also read more science books.


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22175710 - 09/01/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Bill_Oreilly said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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mtlmike90 said:
I know this will sound arrogant but I'm 26 very educated and a successful scientist.





I'll pray for you, maybe you'll find salvation and get out of that hokey science cult you're involved in





This. You tell em', pris





would you stop trolling my trolling... it just aint right!



Hahaha ok I was confused, first u say i'm in a science cult and then you start defending science.


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #22175716 - 09/01/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think the Big Bang theory attempts to explain that and by this post, I feel like you are in favor of religion which there is no science to support either.

Truth of the matter is that we really have no idea what the bigger picture is.. only speculation as been stated


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #22175721 - 09/01/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The Universe we live in is just one cell surrounded by trillions of other cells which together make up the body of a man living in his own Universe

This just goes on and on infinitely both backwards and forwards

We are each merely a collection of our own unique Universes


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Diminish the sub-principle and leave its toxic trace..
Once and for all!


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #22175726 - 09/01/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

see, you just had to add In the last "i suggest you read some science books".

Don't tell me what to do. I am satisfied with the direction of knowledge in which I am headed.


--------------------
Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #22175729 - 09/01/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It sounds like the theory that the universe is in the shape of an outline of a man. Anyone know what I'm talking about?


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: MachineElf1.618] * 1
    #22175749 - 09/01/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

yeah pris argues what he wants, when he wants. He doesn't believe anything he says and just plays devils advocate. I have been calling him out on this for years.

He loves to come off as this know-it-all but in the end, unfortunately, he doesn't know what he thinks. He just likes to show off to the shroomery that he can play any side he wants and come up with bullshit  "facts" to support whatever he pleases.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22175791 - 09/01/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think a strong knowledge  of history should accompany any scientific degree. It seems like people of science get caught up in perceiving theory  as fact.  So many times throughout history people have been laughed at for their stance on a certain subject and later was proven as accurate. Also it goes the other way many times have mass people believed a certain theory as fact later to be found out they were a bunch of dumbasses and dead wrong. Of course the world is flat blah blah.  And this is going on today.  Future people will look back on our time and laugh at how stupid we where because most people believed something to be true.  Maybe it will be global warming? Who the hell knows. All I know is that people have been wrong throughout history and we are not the exception.  We believe we are more intelligent and have better technology to be more certain of things. And we do, but we will be proved wrong on alot of things we perceive as fact.


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22175804 - 09/01/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:bender:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22175892 - 09/01/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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OhMrJohnson said:
The Universe we live in is just one cell surrounded by trillions of other cells which together make up the body of a man living in his own Universe

This just goes on and on infinitely both backwards and forwards

We are each merely a collection of our own unique Universes




I had the same thought on an acid trip many years ago.

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see, you just had to add In the last "i suggest you read some science books".

Don't tell me what to do. I am satisfied with the direction of knowledge in which I am headed.




Well its a helluva lot better than telling you to read one book that claims to have the answers to everything.


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  Future people will look back on our time and laugh at how stupid we where because most people believed something to be true.




I actually agree with your stance on history. I'm a pretty big on history. Which is why this quote probably goes to the idea of god. In the future people will laugh at us for believing in god just like we laugh at the Romans and Greeks for having all their ridiculous gods.

Science has giving us everything we have today, its the reason I'm able to type this to you and you can see it almost instantaneously and we don't even know each other. To say that people in the future are gonna look at our science and laugh is incorrect. Although they may laugh at how primitive our science is. Modern science is only almost 200 years old its still young. There is more to be discovered and I think eventually we may be able to bring someone dead back and then we will finally know. We already have cryo for the dead. Watch when we bring one back!

I bet all my money on total darkness.


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #22176234 - 09/01/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I never said they would look back on our science and laugh. They will probably  mark this time as one of great technological advances.  But some of the other crap we put out there may be laughed at.  I mean every year another  disease comes out and is supposed to kill everyone like swine flu and bird flu and what have you.  A lot of people believed all the hype when it was going on.  Now it looks foolish.  I know the media had a lot to do with that but the concept applies.  And again with you and this religious crap.  People at laugh at what we call a god but they will still believe in some sort of higher power.  Just like a few people think the Greeks had ridiculous gods but at thw same time they believe in a Christian god. 

It's not going away. You can't science god away. As much as you want it to be gone its not going to happen.  People always believed in a higher power and they always will.  Your fighting a battle you can't win.


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