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OfflineMachineElf1.618
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Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!!
    #22175298 - 09/01/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

After today I'm so done with this religious bible thumping bullshit. This guy at work came up to me randomly and said he is praying for me and he hopes I read the bible and find salvation because the path I'm taking is leading to hell. I felt so offended and I really wanted to just slap the shit out of him and scream at him to wake the fuck up and stop believing in fairy tales.

I know this will sound arrogant but I'm 26 very educated and a successful scientist. I have never prayed to a god for anything even when times where tough and I feel like I've done something good with my life. I've never stolen anything, cheated, been in trouble with the police, and I respect all people no matter how different they are from me. But because I don't believe in an imaginary being I'm destined to burn for eternity. Yet most of these assholes are horrible hateful people and they get paradise?

Anyway I responded in a scientific manner. I asked him if he knew how old the universe was. Obviously he didn't know the answer. I said time is infinite but the universe is 14 billion years and the earth 4 billion. You didn't exist until about 20 years ago. You saw 14 billion years plus infinity of complete nothingness no consciousness just darkness, and when you die you will go back to that prior state of darkness for eternity. So stop reading a single book that's over 2,000 years old and pick up one of millions of science books that explain how the world and life actually works.

My tone wasn't very nice either so I feel bad about it and I think I'll probably apologize even though I don't want to. Sorry for the rant but I needed to take it out somewhere.


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #22175308 - 09/01/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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and I respect all people no matter how different they are from me.




Yet you bashed your co-workers beliefs.

You should have simply responded with a polite thank you and avoided the entire situation.


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: TNK]
    #22175315 - 09/01/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

dont feel bad, you were much nicer then many people are to them, they should not approach people like that imo


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #22175335 - 09/01/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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and when you die you will go back to that prior state of darkness for eternity




I used to think like that when I was younger. Now I know better.


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: TNK] * 2
    #22175343 - 09/01/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

At it's simplest a prayer can mean the person has you specifically in their thoughts in a positive manner. I'd be cool with that. No one really knows what happens after death, to say it'll just be infinite darkness is just as stupid as the heaven hell idea. No one knows, maybe there is a multiverse and dying allows people to traverse the multiverse. Anyway, someone saying they'll pray for you is an act of kindness based off their belief. It's a gesture of kindness man


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #22175375 - 09/01/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thinking Science has the answers for the after life is as ignorant as thinking Religion does.

Simply put, no one fucking knows.


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #22175387 - 09/01/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Guy deserves to have his beliefs bashed if he's gonna force them onto other people
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Sagescruffy said:
At it's simplest a prayer can mean the person has you specifically in their thoughts in a positive manner. I'd be cool with that. Anyway, someone saying they'll pray for you is an act of kindness based off their belief. It's a gesture of kindness man



He told him he was going to hell for living the way he is, he didn't just say "praying for you"


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #22175389 - 09/01/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i prefer animal sacrifice over prayer


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: Love_spirit]
    #22175418 - 09/01/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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TheNatureKid said:
Quote:

and I respect all people no matter how different they are from me.




Yet you bashed your co-workers beliefs.

You should have simply responded with a polite thank you and avoided the entire situation.




No I didn't I simply told him what I think happens after death. Bashing him would be me saying god doesn't exist he is stupid for his beliefs and his whole life is a lie.
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Love_spirit said:

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and when you die you will go back to that prior state of darkness for eternity




I used to think like that when I was younger. Now I know better.



I'm curious what your belief is. Mind sharing?


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: wrestler_az]
    #22175431 - 09/01/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

People can pray for me all they want and I will thank them kindly. Tell me I am going to hell and you can eat a dick, I feel no compunction to show tolerance for some rude idiot who would ever tell another such a thing.

The whole "trying to save your soul" part is absolute bullshit too. They are pridefully seeking to stoke their own egos while holding others in judgement - something reserved for GOD, according to their book.

I have found many of this type of "Christian" don't even know the bible very well, and they clearly pick and chose what to believe and ignore. I have known and do know many a great Christian but this particular type get under my skin.


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: TNK]
    #22175440 - 09/01/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't like being talked to like that as much as the next guy but a sarcastic "oh gee, thanks" with maybe an eye roll would have sufficed.  And fact of the matter is you don't know for sure what happens either.  Passing that off as truth is ignorant.  In my opinion anyone who believes they are 100 percent certain in what happens after you die is an ignoramus. Whether they believe in an afterlife or nothingness or a flying dick saucer that collects souls, or whatever.

Get over yourself. Once you realize you don't know everything you become much more intelligent in my book.


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: Void_Hawk] * 1
    #22175443 - 09/01/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Just know that you will be in my prayers tonight.  :hug:


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: TNK]
    #22175461 - 09/01/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Sagescruffy said:
At it's simplest a prayer can mean the person has you specifically in their thoughts in a positive manner. I'd be cool with that. No one really knows what happens after death, to say it'll just be infinite darkness is just as stupid as the heaven hell idea. No one knows, maybe there is a multiverse and dying allows people to traverse the multiverse. Anyway, someone saying they'll pray for you is an act of kindness based off their belief. It's a gesture of kindness man



It is kindness when someone in the family is sick or dying or you are going through hard times. It is not kind to tell someone you are praying for them because their path in life is leading to hell. That is not cool at all.

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TheNatureKid said:
Thinking Science has the answers for the after life is as ignorant as thinking Religion does.

Simply put, no one fucking knows.



I never said science explains the afterlife because it doesn't. I used an anecdote to explain. To me and I'm pretty sure everyone else in the world everything was dark before you were born (unless you are one of those people claiming to have been reincarnated or whatever.) Science tells us the universe in billions of years old and it makes my head hurt thinking that an infinite time has passed until I became a conscious being.


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: Void_Hawk]
    #22175464 - 09/01/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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No I didn't I simply told him what I think happens after death. Bashing him would be me saying god doesn't exist he is stupid for his beliefs and his whole life is a lie.




Okay, maybe I jumped the gun a tad but this sounds a bit like bashing to me.

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So stop reading a single book that's over 2,000 years old and pick up one of millions of science books that explain how the world and life actually works.




That is implying that he cannot learn anything from the Bible because it is 2,000 years old.
Most of our scientific books are less than a decade old, some are older but a lot of the stuff coming out is new theory's and relatively new.

Before you think that I am some bible thumping christian, for the record I am non religious.
The bible can be used as a philosophy for life and can lead people to go on to commit many great acts of kindness, just as it has to go on to lead to many violent and evil acts.

I'm just stating it sounds like belittling his beliefs.


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: wrestler_az]
    #22175471 - 09/01/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

When he said you're going to Hell you should've been like, "It's cool bro I already know that, I actually just got back from a poker game with the devil, he sends his regards"


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: Detached]
    #22175476 - 09/01/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Just throw up the horns and say I am the god damn devil bitch. Welcome to hell.


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: chaka333]
    #22175485 - 09/01/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Don't worry. You'll be in my prayers too.


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: Detached]
    #22175507 - 09/01/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Detached said:
Just know that you will be in my prayers tonight.  :hug:




(if reply is correct, or even if not)
As will you be in mine :hug:

Hope you don't mind being in my pagan prayer to the ultra-hyperspace pagan super-God thing.


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: MachineElf1.618] * 2
    #22175523 - 09/01/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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mtlmike90 said:
and when you die you will go back to that prior state of darkness for eternity.





Looks like you believe in fairy-tales just as much as him.

Bro..just because you know how old the damn universe is don't try and act better than people. You KNOW his intentions meant well...so what the fuck? The dude has his beliefs and you have yours. Like another poster said, you should have thanked him and moved on with your life.

science is hilarious. It defines "nothingness" as :everything" and "everything" as "nothingness".

science is changing its story by the freaking day. Its attempt to figure out the earth/universe is respectable, yet laughable.


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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Stop telling peope you are praying for them!!!!! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22175526 - 09/01/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Bill O'Reilly is still out on science.


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