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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22175397 - 09/01/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

ripper is a gangster


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: TNK]
    #22175401 - 09/01/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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TheNatureKid said:
I agree, it is a sad state of affairs when somebody may kill themselves off of the opinion of anonymous internet posters, at least with the original topic (the guy and girl) the two knew each other in person, and had numerous physical interactions.

I am worried about people who let anonymous internet users get to them so deeply, it speaks volumes for their self esteem and self worth.

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Bassfreak said it once and barely knew her, so his words had little merit. This lady actually wanted the dude to die, and tried really hard to make it happen




Exactly, so in the context of the Shroomery, It's disturbing to think someone would let Bassfreak's opinion have a serious impact on the decision for if they should end their own life. It is absurd.



Viva did not kill herself and is alive and well.  Multiple memnbers egged Ripper on.  Now please tell me why this woman is being chsrged.  Is it a crime if i tell you to kill yourself?  Is it only a crime if you do kill yourself.  If you tell the bitch to fuck off did she commit a crime?


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22175420 - 09/01/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think so Zappa, I don't want to live in a world where that is a crime.

Like I have previously said, I would not encourage suicide and have been in a similar situation as the OP story, and encouraged them to seek help.

If I post on a YouTube Video saying

"This is a terrible video, you are a terrible person,
You should end yourself"

And the mother fucker does, am I responsible?

I don't know, it is hard to say, these two knew each other for a long length of time, It is not stated in the link you shared, but the other day I read an article about this story that had the text conversation between the two, and you can tell how far she was egging him to go on.

I'll look for it and post it.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22175446 - 09/01/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

This probably constitutes a flagrant violation of her first amendment right to free speech.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22175453 - 09/01/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Do you all think the Shroomery was complicit in Ripper's suicide?





Ripper was that guy that overdosed on camera taking enormous quantities of benzos and other prescription drugs right? I'm garbage with names.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: TNK]
    #22175474 - 09/01/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

This wasn't an isolated incident of someone trolling on Youtube on the internet.. This was her boyfriend.

I don't think speech between two private parties should be protected in these type of situations..

What if someone tells you that they are going to go on a murder spree before they actually do and you choose not to alarm anyone - doesn't that make you partly responsible?


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: Cj-B]
    #22175477 - 09/01/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Do you all think the Shroomery was complicit in Ripper's suicide?





Ripper was that guy that overdosed on camera taking enormous quantities of benzos and other prescription drugs right? I'm garbage with names.




Yes while some people encouraged it.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: Cj-B]
    #22175486 - 09/01/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know about the video thing.  It predates my membership.  It is how I found out about the site.  I read about Ripper in the nwspaper.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: Detached]
    #22175488 - 09/01/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Following the text messages. Carter and Conrad spoke on the phone for almost an hour. During the phone call Conrad had decided that he no longer wanted to kill himself and got out of the car……But Michelle instructed him to get back in the car and “just do it”.




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Here are the text messages that were exchange between Conrad and Michelle.

The morning of July 12, at 4: 19 AM

CARTER: You can’t think about it. You just have to do it. You said you were gonna do it. Like I don’t get why you aren’t.

CONRAD: I don’t get it either. I don’t know.

CARTER: So I guess you aren’t gonna do it then. All that for nothing. I’m just confused. Like you were so ready and determined.

CONRAD: I am gonna eventually. I really don’t know what I’m waiting for but I have everything lined up.

CARTER: No, you’re not, Conrad. Last night was it. You kept pushing it off and you say you’ll do it, but you never do. It’s always gonna be that way if you don’t take action. You’re just making it harder on yourself by pushing it off. You just have to do it. Do you want to do it now?

CONRAD: Is it too late? I don’t know. It’s already light outside. I’m gonna go back too sleep. Love you. I’ll text you tomorrow.

CARTER: No. It’s probably the best time now because everyone is sleeping. Just go somewhere in your truck and no one is really out there right now because it’s an awkward time. If you don’t do it now you’re never gonna do it, and you can say you’ll do it tomorrow, but you probably won’t. Tonight? Love you.

CONRAD: Thank you.

CARTER: For what. Are you awake?

CONRAD: Yes.

CARTER: Are you gonna do it today?

CONRAD: Yes.

CARTER: Like in the day time?

CONRAD: Should I?

CARTER: Yeah, it’s less suspicious. You won’t think about it as much and you’ll get it over with instead of wait until the night.

CONRAD: Yeah then I will. Like where? Like I could go in any enclosed area.

CARTER: Go in your truck and drive in a parking lot somewhere, to a park or something. Do it like early. Do it now, like early.

CONRAD: Didn’t we say this was suspicious?

CARTER: No. I think night is more suspicious, a kid sitting in his car turning on the radio. Just do it. It wouldn’t be suspicious and it won’t take long.

CONRAD: Okay. I’m taking Holly for a walk.

CARTER: Okay.

CONRAD: I don’t know why I’m like this.

CARTER: Sometimes things happen and we never have the answers why.

CONRAD: Like, why am I so hesitant lately. Like two weeks ago I was willing to try everything and now I’m worse, really bad, and I’m LOL not following through. It’s eating me inside.

CARTER: You’re so hesitant because you keeping over thinking it and keep pushing it off. You just need to do it, Conrad. The more you push it off, the more it will eat at you. You’re ready and prepared. All you have to do is tum the generator on and you will be free and happy. No more pushing it off. No more waiting.

CONRAD: You’re right.

CARTER: If you want it as bad as you say you do it’s time to do it today.

CONRAD: Yup. No more waiting.

CARTER: Okay. I’m serious. Like you can’t even wait ’till tonight. You have to do it when you get back from your walk.

CONRAD: Thank you.

CARTER: For what?

CONRAD: Still being here.

CARTER: I would never leave you. You’re the love of my life, my boyfriend. You are my heart. I’d never leave you.

CONRAD: Aw.

CARTER: I love you.

CONRAD: Love you, too.

CARTER: When will you be back from your walk?

CONRAD: Like, five minutes.

CARTER: Okay. So you gonna do it?

CONRAD: I guess.

CARTER: Well, I want you to be ready and sure. What does that mean?

CONRAD: I don’t know. I’m freaking out again. I’m over thinking.

CARTER: I thought you wanted to do this. This time is right and you’re ready. You just need to do it. You can’t keep living this way. You just need to do it like you did the last time and not think about it and just do it, babe. You can’t keep doing this every day.

CONRAD: I do want to but I’m like freaking for my family I guess. I don’t know.

CARTER: Conrad, I told you I’ll take care of them. Everyone will take care of them to make sure they won’t be alone and people will help them get through it. We talked about this and they will be okay and accept it. People who commit suicide don’t think this much. They just could do it.

CONRAD: I know. I know. LOL. Thinking just drives me more crazy.

CARTER: You just need to do it, Conrad, or I’m gonna get you help. You can’t keep doing this everyday.

CONRAD: Okay. I’m gonna do it today.

CARTER: You promise?

CONRAD: I promise, babe. I have to now.

CARTER: Like right now?

CONRAD: Where do I go?

CARTER: And you can’t break a promise. And just go in a quiet parking lot or something.

CONRAD: Okay.

CARTER: Go somewhere you know you won’t get caught. You can find a place. I now you can. Are you doing it now?

Later that afternoon, the conversation continued

CONRAD: I’m determined.

CARTER: I’m happy to hear that.

CONRAD: I’m ready.

CARTER: Good because it’s time, babe. You know that. When you get back from the beach you’ve gotta go do it. You’re ready. You’re determined. It’s the best time to do it.

CONRAD: Okay, I will.

CARTER: Are you back?

CONRAD: No more thinking.

CARTER: Yes. No more thinking. You need to just do it. No more waiting.

CONRAD: On way back. I know where to go now.

CARTER: Where?

CONRAD: A parking lot. There is going to be no cars there at 9:00. So that’s when I’ll be found.

CARTER: Okay, perfect. When will you be home?

CONRAD: Ten minutes. Ha ha, that’s perfect.

CARTER: Okay. And, well, yeah, I don’t know.

CONRAD: Like, I don’t want to kill anyone else with me.

CARTER: You won’t.

CONRAD: When they open the door they won’t know it’s odorless and colorless.

CARTER: You’re over thinking. They will see the generator and realize you breathed in CO too.

CONRAD: So should I keep it in the back seat or front?

CARTER: In the front. You could write on a piece of paper and tape it on saying carbon monoxide or something if you’re scared.

CONRAD: I was thinking that but someone might see it before it actually happens.

CARTER: Well, wait, the generator is gonna be on because you’ll be passed out, so they’ll know you used carbon monoxide. Dead. It’s not loud is it?

CONRAD: Not really, LMAO.

CARTER: Okay, good. Are you gonna do it now?

5:08 PM, Conrad returned from the beach and wanted to back out

CONRAD: I’m home.

CARTER: Okay.

CONRAD: Ah.

CARTER: What?

CONRAD: I don’t know. I’m stressing.

CARTER: You’re fine. It’s gonna be okay. You just gotta do it, babe. You can’t think about it.

CONRAD: Okay. Okay. I got this.

CARTER: Yes, you do. I believe in you. Did you delete the messages?

CONRAD: Yes. But you’re going to keep messaging me.

CARTER: I will until you turn on the generator.

CONRAD: Okay. Well, I’m bringing my sisters for ice cream.

CARTER: So will you do it when you get back?

CONRAD: Yup, I’ll go right there.

CARTER: Okay.

CONRAD: Love you.

CARTER: I love so much.

CONRAD: (Smiley face).

CARTER: 33.

CONRAD: Ha ha. What are you doing?

CARTER: Nothing really. Just resting.

CONRAD: Okay. Ha, ha I’m procrastinating.

CARTER: Yeah, ha ha, I know. Are you back?

CONRAD: Yup.

CARTER: So it’s time?

CONRAD: Oh, it’s been time.

CARTER: Are you gonna do it now?

CONRAD: I just don’t know how to leave them, you know.

CARTER: Say you’re gonna go the store or something.

CONRAD: Like, I want them to know that I love them.

CARTER: They know. That’s one thing they definitely know. You’re over thinking.

CONRAD: I know I’m over thinking. I’ve been over thinking for a while now.

CARTER: I know. You just have to do it like you said. Are you gonna do it now?

CONRAD: I still haven’t left yet, ha ha.

CARTER: Why?

CONRAD: Leaving now.

CARTER: Okay. You can do this.

CONRAD: Okay. I’m almost there.

6:25 PM, the last message was sen




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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: TNK]
    #22175506 - 09/01/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:feelssadman:

That is completely horrifying.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: Detached]
    #22175519 - 09/01/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah it is pretty twisted to think someone could act and say things like this.

The real question is though, is she criminally liable?

I think that there is a premise for a civil suit, not so sure about a criminal charge though.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: TNK]
    #22175522 - 09/01/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

No, thank you for the long quote. 

If she gets convicted for this it is a very bad precedent.  They could go back after everybody who egged Ripper on since there is no statute of limitations on murder.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22175534 - 09/01/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If it does set precedent, hypothetically speaking if somebody we're to kill them self, and left a note saying..

"I'm killing myself because of all the people who called me fat"

They could theoretically charge anyone who posted on their facebook with a remark / comment insinuating that they we're fat.

I know it is a stretch, but you get the premise of the idea.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22175537 - 09/01/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The people who egged Ripper on should be convicted in my eyes, if they knew he was taking lethal doses :shrug:


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: TNK] * 1
    #22175564 - 09/01/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

TheNatureKid said:
If it does set precedent, hypothetically speaking if somebody we're to kill them self, and left a note saying..

"I'm killing myself because of all the people who called me fat"

They could theoretically charge anyone who posted on their facebook with a remark / comment insinuating that they we're fat.

I know it is a stretch, but you get the premise of the idea.



I don't think it's a stretch.  I think it is precisely the slippery slope they are going down here.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: Sheekle] * 1
    #22175570 - 09/01/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Sheekle said:
The people who egged Ripper on should be convicted in my eyes, if they knew he was taking lethal doses :shrug:



I don't think anybody believed him but that is irrelevant.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: zappaisgod] * 3
    #22175595 - 09/01/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Don't tell me zappa is actually right about something for a change? Is there nothing we can count on anymore?

I think bass' ban had a lot more to do with his other infractions and the fact that he was kind of a pain in the ass to staff. The last was just the final straw.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22175608 - 09/01/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:


If she gets convicted for this it is a very bad precedent.




can you at least agree that this woman is horrible person? or do you actually think that her behavior is normal or something? because thats the idea i get from your posts in this thread


i hope she is harrassed for the rest of her life, until she kills herself.
that is fair justice


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: Adolin] * 2
    #22175635 - 09/01/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Being an asshole is not a criminal offense.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22175645 - 09/01/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

How bout being a horrid asshole?


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