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Offlinezappaisgod
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Apropos to the bassfreak ban * 2
    #22175147 - 09/01/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/09/01/its-now-or-never-teen-girl-facing-manslaughter-charge-after-egging-boyfriend-on-to-kill-himself/


This is one of the most disgusting prosecutions I have ever seen brought.  She did nothing to physically facilitate his demise.  This is a momstrous imposition of state power.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22175194 - 09/01/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

lol, if it was a man who coerced a woman to kill herself, most peoples opinions would be opposite and this would be a national story on every station. but alas, the victim is a man and and that makes this hardly newsworthy



but i dont agree that she did nothing to facilitate his demise, there is very clear evidence that she egged him on and tried to get him to kill himself.

as far as i'm concerned, i hope this stupid cunt goes to prison just because shes obviously an extremely evil person.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: zappaisgod] * 3
    #22175196 - 09/01/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: zappaisgod] * 4
    #22175205 - 09/01/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

give that bitch the electric chair, she's a terrible piece of shit cunt. do you think she's a sweetheart?


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22175212 - 09/01/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Wow - that is pretty sad. I'm pretty sure the bitch also started some kind of memorial fundraiser or something too before these charges were ever pressed. Fucked up.

Too bad bassfreak doesn't get to see this thread :sad:


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: Sheekle]
    #22175214 - 09/01/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Encouraging suicide and murder aren't even in the same ball park.

Though the story is fucked up, and that girl is obviously psychotic.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: TNK]
    #22175223 - 09/01/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

TheNatureKid said:
Encouraging suicide and murder aren't even in the same ball park.

Though the story is fucked up, and that girl is obviously psychotic.





yeah. murder is usually a spur-of-the-moment type thing. meticulously convincing someone to kill themselves over the course of months is way, way more evil.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: Adolin]
    #22175232 - 09/01/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Did you read the end of the conversation?

Apparently he backed out, and left his car, and she encouraged him to return to the car and off himself.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: Adolin] * 1
    #22175237 - 09/01/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Do you all think the Shroomery was complicit in Ripper's suicide?


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22175265 - 09/01/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Do you all think the Shroomery was complicit in Ripper's suicide?





peopled egged him on to do drugs, sure. and those members may be partially complicit. but i doubt they actually wanted that dude to kill himself



that isnt the same as trying to convince someone to kill themselves over the course of months.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: Adolin]
    #22175287 - 09/01/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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All she did was talk to him. Ultimately it was his decision to do it or not.




As shitty as it is for anyone to kill themselves, the quoted statement is pretty accurate.

Quote:

she’s claiming that her messages with Roy were speech protected by the First Amendment and that the charges should be thrown out.




What do you all make of this? I am inclined to agree, though it is shitty and malicious, it is up to the person.
I would never seriously encourage suicide, but the argument is valid in her defense.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: Adolin]
    #22175295 - 09/01/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That evil cunt should rot in jail for the rest of her pathetic life

Sadly I don't think she will because she didn't actually kill him.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: TNK] * 1
    #22175307 - 09/01/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Speech should be protected by the First Amendment when it comes to public domain (it was originally intended to protect freedom of protest really)

You can't just say anything you want in real life without consequences hence slander


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: Detached]
    #22175317 - 09/01/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well in the context, it was a private conversation on privately owned devices.

He could have blocked her, ignored her, reported her for harassment, etc, yet none of that was done.

I'm not defending her, she is a terrible human being.
I am simply playing devil's advocate for the desire for an intellectual conversation on the state of Freedom of Speech.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: TNK] * 2
    #22175329 - 09/01/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

TheNatureKid said:
Quote:

All she did was talk to him. Ultimately it was his decision to do it or not.




As shitty as it is for anyone to kill themselves, the quoted statement is pretty accurate.

Quote:

she’s claiming that her messages with Roy were speech protected by the First Amendment and that the charges should be thrown out.




What do you all make of this? I am inclined to agree, though it is shitty and malicious, it is up to the person.
I would never seriously encourage suicide, but the argument is valid in her defense.




Bassfreak suggested that Viva should kill herself.  He got banned but should he be prosecuted criminally?  Numerous members here encouraged Ripper.  Where is the line drawn? 

This is a very dangerous prosecution.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: zappaisgod] * 2
    #22175339 - 09/01/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Bassfreak said it once and barely knew her, so his words had little merit. This lady actually wanted the dude to die, and tried really hard to make it happen


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22175359 - 09/01/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I agree, it is a sad state of affairs when somebody may kill themselves off of the opinion of anonymous internet posters, at least with the original topic (the guy and girl) the two knew each other in person, and had numerous physical interactions.

I am worried about people who let anonymous internet users get to them so deeply, it speaks volumes for their self esteem and self worth.

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Bassfreak said it once and barely knew her, so his words had little merit. This lady actually wanted the dude to die, and tried really hard to make it happen




Exactly, so in the context of the Shroomery, It's disturbing to think someone would let Bassfreak's opinion have a serious impact on the decision for if they should end their own life. It is absurd.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: Sheekle]
    #22175371 - 09/01/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

She didn't hire anybody.  All she did was talk.  This is very bad.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: TNK]
    #22175373 - 09/01/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Viva said she didn't really care that Bassfreak said it to her and didn't expect him to be perma'd.


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Re: Apropos to the bassfreak ban [Re: Sheekle]
    #22175385 - 09/01/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
She didn't hire anybody.  All she did was talk.  This is very bad.




Too bad people won't defend her because of the situation, Yeah she is a terrible person, but is she truely responsible for his death? She didn't put a gun to his head, all she did was say do it.


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Sheekle said:
Viva said she didn't really care that Bassfreak said it to her and didn't expect him to be perma'd.




I don't know her, I've talked to her literally one time.

But all hell broke lose shortly after that incident, if they are related or a coincidence, I don't know.
Like any Mod will say, his ban was due to regular malicious behavior, "unshroomery" behavior.


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