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Something is Gone Wrong ? Cakes and shrooms turning blue at the base ? *DELETED*
    #22174983 - 09/01/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: FIRST ATTEMPT NOOB GROW TIPS COMMENTS ? [Re: grimshaman]
    #22175019 - 09/01/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You're not getting any fresh air exchange, and your mycelium is gasping for air. Fan more frequently, after you mist preferably.


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Re: FIRST ATTEMPT NOOB GROW TIPS COMMENTS ? [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22175037 - 09/01/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

those poor cakes. get them out of that fucking thing before you ruin them

fanning does not provide FAE


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Re: FIRST ATTEMPT NOOB GROW TIPS COMMENTS ? [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22175038 - 09/01/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Havent been misting been faning for 1 min 4 times aday maybe 5


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Re: FIRST ATTEMPT NOOB GROW TIPS COMMENTS ? [Re: grimshaman]
    #22175047 - 09/01/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah man every one, including me is going to say build a shot gun fruiting chamber.


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Re: FIRST ATTEMPT NOOB GROW TIPS COMMENTS ? [Re: T-Funkadelic]
    #22175056 - 09/01/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

always mist your cakes, i'd rather treat that like an open air grow then see them suffer:sad:


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Re: FIRST ATTEMPT NOOB GROW TIPS COMMENTS ? [Re: cronicr]
    #22175073 - 09/01/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i don't have any other equipment what should i do with this


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Re: FIRST ATTEMPT NOOB GROW TIPS COMMENTS ? [Re: grimshaman]
    #22175092 - 09/01/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i would leave some space in the lid for air to come in and go out and mist a few times a day, you're not going to like that set up...people hated it ten years ago


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Re: FIRST ATTEMPT NOOB GROW TIPS COMMENTS ? [Re: cronicr]
    #22175110 - 09/01/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

thank you after this grow i will switch to the shotgun monotub


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IS THIS CONTAMINATED ? [Re: grimshaman]
    #22188877 - 09/04/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

REV 1.1

Update I have Changed my setup to promote more FAE and increase RH%

However there is some bluish maybe grey bruising on the cakes i think its just the normal blue bruising that happened from the transfers Is this Contaminated


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Re: IS THIS CONTAMINATED ? [Re: grimshaman]
    #22188895 - 09/04/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Did you just rename this thread and edit the hell out of it instead of just posting a new one?


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Re: IS THIS CONTAMINATED ? [Re: Fungitarianism]
    #22188945 - 09/04/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

yes i thought you weren't supposed to start new threads


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Re: IS THIS CONTAMINATED ? [Re: grimshaman]
    #22189290 - 09/04/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I appreciate your edit. Keepin' everything in one place is a good idea.

The cake isn't contaminated. Its just bruising. The little air pump doesn't really provide much fresh air either.

Is it really too much for you to go out and spend the $9 on a 66qt plastic tub? Your mushrooms will love you for it.


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Re: IS THIS CONTAMINATED ? [Re: grimshaman]
    #22189402 - 09/04/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

This reminds me of my first FC which grew exactly ONE mature mushroom and a small one at that. YMMV. Hope your efforts to improve FAE help but definitely SGFC ASAP it'll pay for itself with the first flush.:mushroom2:


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Re: IS THIS CONTAMINATED ? [Re: Dr. Baker]
    #22189648 - 09/04/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

seems like the only worth while way to grow mushies is with a SGFC however i am unable to acquire said plastic tub untill maybe 2nd flush just wondering how to best fruit these until i get my SGFC setup

!! CAN I USE A SOLID ONE AND ADD A CLEAR PLEXI GLASS WINDOW FOR LIGHT


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Re: IS THIS CONTAMINATED ? [Re: grimshaman]
    #22189680 - 09/04/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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seems like the only worth while way to grow mushies is with a SGFC however i am unable to acquire said plastic tub untill maybe 2nd flush just wondering how to best fruit these until i get my SGFC setup




Get something that is about the same size. Clear. Something that can hold wet perlite, and have dozens of holes drilled in it. Basically anything you can McGyver together that would serve the same purpose. Hell you could make a SGFC out of a cardboard box if you seran wrapped windows in it for lighting and kept that perlite damp and moist.


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Re: IS THIS CONTAMINATED ? [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
    #22189687 - 09/04/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

CAN I USE A SOLID TOTE WITH A PLEXIGLASS WINDOW


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Re: IS THIS CONTAMINATED ? [Re: grimshaman]
    #22189725 - 09/04/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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CAN I USE A SOLID TOTE WITH A PLEXIGLASS WINDOW




Yes. Make sure light is entering the window to give the entire tub ambient light. "Ambient light" you dont want to use direct light on a window like that unless you know your light doesnt put off ANY source of heat. CFL should be fine at a small distance.


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Re: IS THIS CONTAMINATED ? [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
    #22189739 - 09/04/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i am using led bulbs and i have drilled tons of holes in a solid tote i will post the setup in 5-10 mins to see if u think it will work


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WILL THIS WORK [Re: grimshaman]
    #22189881 - 09/04/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

REV 1.2
Now this is what i have will this work more holes ? less holes ? i dont have PL used VERM will it still work ?



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Re: WILL THIS WORK [Re: grimshaman]
    #22190065 - 09/04/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

A lot better than what you had before. You need holes on the bottom and top as well, holes on all 6 sides. I would say ditch the plexiglass, and put in  seran wrap, that way you can at least put holes in it. I would go out and get perlite like asap. Like right now. That verm will hold moisture, but I dont think it would be enough to keep a high enough RH. Idk though, never seen anyone trying verm instead of perlite.


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Re: WILL THIS WORK [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
    #22190800 - 09/04/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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A lot better than what you had before. You need holes on the bottom and top as well, holes on all 6 sides. I would say ditch the plexiglass, and put in  seran wrap, that way you can at least put holes in it. I would go out and get perlite like asap. Like right now. That verm will hold moisture, but I dont think it would be enough to keep a high enough RH. Idk though, never seen anyone trying verm instead of perlite.





The Humidity is there i just checked the box and it was all fogged up im thinking i need more holes for less moisture the bottom and sides all have holes thinking just the top now that needs more holes


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A lot better than what you had before. You need holes on the bottom and top as well, holes on all 6 sides. I would say ditch the plexiglass, and put in  seran wrap, that way you can at least put holes in it. I would go out and get perlite like asap. Like right now. That verm will hold moisture, but I dont think it would be enough to keep a high enough RH. Idk though, never seen anyone trying verm instead of perlite.




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Re: WILL THIS WORK [Re: grimshaman]
    #22190900 - 09/04/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The Humidity is there i just checked the box and it was all fogged up



That's condensation, not humidity.

You cannot see humidity.


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Re: WILL THIS WORK [Re: PussyFart]
    #22191018 - 09/04/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

my rh meter shows 99% humidity


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Re: WILL THIS WORK [Re: grimshaman]
    #22191056 - 09/05/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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my rh meter shows 99% humidity



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Re: WILL THIS WORK [Re: grimshaman]
    #22191083 - 09/05/15 12:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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my rh meter shows 99% humidity



shitty


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Re: WILL THIS WORK [Re: cronicr]
    #22191278 - 09/05/15 02:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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my rh meter shows 99% humidity



shitty



yes my shitty meter


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Re: WILL THIS WORK [Re: grimshaman]
    #22191535 - 09/05/15 06:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: WILL THIS WORK [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22191725 - 09/05/15 08:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

No it wont Work With verm


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Re: WILL THIS WORK [Re: kiksen]
    #22192921 - 09/05/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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No it wont Work With verm




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Re: WILL THIS WORK [Re: grimshaman]
    #22196544 - 09/06/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

ok i saw my first sign of pins underneath i suspect poor moisture from transfering so i flipped my cakes doused them in water and threw some verm on them misted the verm and placed them directly on the damp verm for better evaporation to trigger more pins



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Re: WILL THIS WORK [Re: grimshaman]
    #22196585 - 09/06/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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ok i saw my first sign of pins underneath i suspect poor moisture from transfering so i flipped my cakes doused them in water and threw some verm on them misted the verm and placed them directly on the damp verm for better evaporation to trigger more pins






they are supposed to be on perlite, not vermiculite


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Re: WILL THIS WORK [Re: Munchauzen]
    #22196595 - 09/06/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

yes i know i cant get that at the moment but im trying to make this work have any suggestions other than get perlite ( not that i dont respect the proper way to do things i am lacking funds at the moment )


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Re: WILL THIS WORK [Re: grimshaman]
    #22196605 - 09/06/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Higher Res Images of Pinning



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Re: WILL THIS WORK [Re: grimshaman]
    #22196615 - 09/06/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: WILL THIS WORK [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22196626 - 09/06/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

uh well at least separate the cakes from the verm base with a circle of foil. so the cakes won't grow into the ground :lol:


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Re: WILL THIS WORK [Re: Munchauzen]
    #22196628 - 09/06/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

consider it done ya ya ya ... ya ya ya


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OK PINS UPDATE GROWING STRONG ANY SUGGESTIONS TIPS? [Re: grimshaman]
    #22201314 - 09/07/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

REV 1.4

This is my progress as of 9/7



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Re: OK PINS UPDATE GROWING STRONG ANY SUGGESTIONS TIPS? [Re: grimshaman]
    #22201454 - 09/07/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: OK PINS UPDATE GROWING STRONG ANY SUGGESTIONS TIPS? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22202254 - 09/07/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I was told this is the proper way to use digital hydrometers


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Re: OK PINS UPDATE GROWING STRONG ANY SUGGESTIONS TIPS? [Re: grimshaman]
    #22202377 - 09/07/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Nah, the proper way is to monitor the humidity of the trash can....lol....

Was this the same person that told you to put verm in the bottom of your FC?


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Re: OK PINS UPDATE GROWING STRONG ANY SUGGESTIONS TIPS? [Re: PussyFart]
    #22202391 - 09/07/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

no my wallet told me to put the verm in there , i would love to put perlite in there im just broke at the moment


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Re: OK PINS UPDATE GROWING STRONG ANY SUGGESTIONS TIPS? [Re: grimshaman]
    #22202406 - 09/07/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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im just broke at the moment



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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: grimshaman]
    #22206203 - 09/08/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Rev 1.5

Ok so two are pinning others not so much




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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: grimshaman]
    #22206307 - 09/08/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Verm and perlite cost roughly the same...its like 4 dollars. IME if you want good results you have to be willing to do it right the first time or spend extra money learning by screwing up a lot. Been there...done that..


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: grimshaman]
    #22206342 - 09/08/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Dude..I would just recommend tossing everything out and starting again since it seems like you are only trying to make a shitty situation a tad less shitty. Just do a SGFC with a clear tote, put perlite in it, fan and mist regularly. That would be so much more efficient than whatever this is. It seems like you didnt even bother looking up a tek on this at all. Good vibes are being sent your way but if you are unwilling to make the necessary changes, then I would say us here on shroomery cannot help you since your not going to listen anyway dude..

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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: EntheoGod]
    #22206455 - 09/08/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Dude..I would just recommend tossing everything out and starting again since it seems like you are only trying to make a shitty situation a tad less shitty. Just do a SGFC with a clear tote, put perlite in it, fan and mist regularly. That would be so much more efficient than whatever this is. It seems like you didnt even bother looking up a tek on this at all. Good vibes are being sent your way but if you are unwilling to make the necessary changes, then I would say us here on shroomery cannot help you since your not going to listen anyway dude..

Good luck.




This is by far the most worthless comment ive gotten and people have literally left just random laughing picture heads


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: grimshaman]
    #22206469 - 09/08/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

congrats on getting mad because someone told you it was being done wrong :thumbup: Everyone on here will tell you that by doing what you are doing its just asking for something to mess up. I was only telling you that if you want the best results then u need to do it the way that is described in several of the teks. Still sending good vibes your way dude.


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: grimshaman]
    #22206471 - 09/08/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Dude..I would just recommend tossing everything out and starting again since it seems like you are only trying to make a shitty situation a tad less shitty. Just do a SGFC with a clear tote, put perlite in it, fan and mist regularly. That would be so much more efficient than whatever this is. It seems like you didnt even bother looking up a tek on this at all. Good vibes are being sent your way but if you are unwilling to make the necessary changes, then I would say us here on shroomery cannot help you since your not going to listen anyway dude..

Good luck.




This is by far the most worthless comment ive gotten and people have literally left just random laughing picture heads



I disagree......these are changes that should be made to your "IMPROVISED CHAMBER".....you improvised a fruiting chamber without even knowing how a real one works, or what the mushies even need......and it seems you are too stubborn to make any of the necessary changes...

I think the comment was spot on....


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    #22206494 - 09/08/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:

That being said my first "chamber" was a bag i punched holes into and used verm for humidity. It ended in a disaster :lol:. The cake turned brown, and it spread into the vermiculite contaminating everything. Lesson learned. Don't use verm.


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: PussyFart]
    #22206509 - 09/08/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Verm and perlite cost roughly the same...its like 4 dollars. IME if you want good results you have to be willing to do it right the first time or spend extra money learning by screwing up a lot. Been there...done that..




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Dude..I would just recommend tossing everything out and starting again since it seems like you are only trying to make a shitty situation a tad less shitty. Just do a SGFC with a clear tote, put perlite in it, fan and mist regularly. That would be so much more efficient than whatever this is. It seems like you didnt even bother looking up a tek on this at all. Good vibes are being sent your way but if you are unwilling to make the necessary changes, then I would say us here on shroomery cannot help you since your not going to listen anyway dude..

Good luck.




This is by far the most worthless comment ive gotten and people have literally left just random laughing picture heads



I disagree......these are changes that should be made to your "IMPROVISED CHAMBER".....you improvised a fruiting chamber without even knowing how a real one works, or what the mushies even need......and it seems you are too stubborn to make any of the necessary changes...

I think the comment was spot on....




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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: grimshaman]
    #22206524 - 09/08/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Oh are you? I really hope you do.

But do note that the pics in my sig are only there because i felt they were unique not because they were of a better quality than any other of the ones grown in fact the first pic on the left in my sig was only put there because the cap grew out of itself. Not like I'm trying to show it off for being super large or something.

I am sorry you are out to offend me or hurt my feelings perhaps you should ask yourself why you are so mad at me for giving you the advice you asked for.. I am only trying to help you and when I gave you an answer you didn't like you turn to hostility. Whenever you calm down perhaps you should take a second look on here at all the teks on how to do this. While you are stuck feeling so hated on you probably wont enjoy reading about how wrong you're doing it.


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: grimshaman]
    #22206527 - 09/08/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

On the next run, I would for sure invest in every item listed in a TEK before ever considering innoc in the first place.
... Then, follow the TEK.

The "necessary changes" are PERLITE for starters. I thought that was already made clear.


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: grimshaman]
    #22206532 - 09/08/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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what exactly are the "necessary changes"



Build a SGFC out of a clear plastic tote....glass aquariums suck at dissipating gasses......

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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: EntheoGod]
    #22206533 - 09/08/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's because you told him to trash his first born fruiting chamber. He was going to hold a chamber shower and invite all his friends to celebrate.


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: EntheoGod]
    #22206538 - 09/08/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Oh are you? I really hope you do.

But do note that the pics in my sig are only there because i felt they were unique not because they were of a better quality than any other of the ones grown in fact the first pic on the left in my sig was only put there because the cap grew out of itself. Not like I'm trying to show it off for being super large or something.

I am sorry you are out to offend me or hurt my feelings perhaps you should ask yourself why you are so mad at me for giving you the advice you asked for.. I am only trying to help you and when I gave you an answer you didn't like you turn to hostility. Whenever you calm down perhaps you should take a second look on here at all the teks on how to do this. While you are stuck feeling so hated on you probably wont enjoy reading about how wrong you're doing it.





Yes i understand that i have not done the SGFC correctly as you will see i started with a different chamber that is now "outdated " from the advice i constructed a makeshift SGFC which is obviously not up to the standards of the SGFC tek however if you have read i am absolutely broke and cannot acquire the materials to construct a proper chamber it has nothing to do with stubbornness and i am not offended more frustrated being in this type of situation where i have done everything right up until fruiting


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: grimshaman]
    #22206555 - 09/08/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

No. You failed at the beginning. You see TEKs have this convenient list of materials needed, and those are listed right at the beginning. You failed to gather the appropriate materials needed to see your project through.

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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: Spiracha]
    #22206559 - 09/08/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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No. You failed at the beginning. You see TEKs have this convenient list of materials needed, and those are listed right at the beginning. You failed to gather the appropriate materials needed to see your project through.




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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: grimshaman]
    #22206561 - 09/08/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Now were making progress. Dude I wasnt trying to offend you I was really giving you the best advice I can give you. If you dont have the money right now then you dont have the money. Maybe you should just wait until you have the money to invest in doing it right so that you wont be upset when it turns out to not work as you expected it to. The verm in that can get colonized by your cakes. The verm will not hold the humidity that is needed. I understand you want to get results and you want good results. Everyone does but theres this cliche saying that I believe holds true in this case

"Dont try to re invent the wheel"

The SGFC has worked for a while and will continue to do so until someone discovers a more efficient way of doing it which is not what you are doing. The mechanics behind how the SGFC works are not being replicated by what you are doing.


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: EntheoGod]
    #22206571 - 09/08/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Now were making progress. Dude I wasnt trying to offend you I was really giving you the best advice I can give you. If you dont have the money right now then you dont have the money. Maybe you should just wait until you have the money to invest in doing it right so that you wont be upset when it turns out to not work as you expected it to. The verm in that can get colonized by your cakes. The verm will not hold the humidity that is needed. I understand you want to get results and you want good results. Everyone does but theres this cliche saying that I believe holds true in this case

"Dont try to re invent the wheel"

The SGFC has worked for a while and will continue to do so until someone discovers a more efficient way of doing it which is not what you are doing. The mechanics behind how the SGFC are not being replicated by what you are doing.





i have been trying to manually replicate what the sgfc does by adding water to the verm every 3 hours almost saturating it and misting heavily while also
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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: grimshaman]
    #22206580 - 09/08/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You do realize all you need is $20 to make a sgfc right? That's like 2 days if you smoke weed like I do. Back when I didn't work i found tons of ways to make money.. I'd offer to mow neighbors lawns for $5. I'd return bottles.. there's also stuff I did I'm not so proud of.. like steal coins from fountains, or sneak some cash out from bartenders tip jars.. whenever I made $5, I'd hit up the casino and play roulette. I'd put it on red.. lots of times I was able to easily walk out with enough cash to get my weed fix, and eat supper that night. Back when I lived with my parents... those were the days :lol:


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: grimshaman]
    #22206587 - 09/08/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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i have been trying to manually replicate what the sgfc does by adding water to the verm every 3 hours almost saturating it and misting heavily while also
fanning



:facepalm:    http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek ;   Please read the page......it explains what the chamber does.......then u might figure out it doesn't need all that moisture....it needs FAE......


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: PussyFart]
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i have been trying to manually replicate what the sgfc does by adding water to the verm every 3 hours almost saturating it and misting heavily while also
fanning



:facepalm:    http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek ;    Please read the page......it explains what the chamber does.......then u might figure out it doesn't need all that moisture....it needs FAE......




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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: grimshaman]
    #22206600 - 09/08/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think that would only simulate the correct humidity for a brief amount of time, the amount of time you are fanning and spraying. It cant recreate the environment a SGFC will maintain all day long with little assistance from you by fanning and spraying regularly.

What I am trying to say is the SGFC does what you are doing by fanning and misting the verm like crazy but it does it throughout the day continuously.


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: grimshaman]
    #22206606 - 09/08/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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i have been trying to manually replicate what the sgfc does by adding water to the verm every 3 hours almost saturating it and misting heavily while also
fanning



:facepalm:    http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek ;    Please read the page......it explains what the chamber does.......then u might figure out it doesn't need all that moisture....it needs FAE......




this page does not exist



Sorry    http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Terrarium-Tek


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: grimshaman]
    #22206608 - 09/08/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i understand it is a machine that works on air density and surface area


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    #22206609 - 09/08/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If given the proper airflow, yes.


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: EntheoGod]
    #22206610 - 09/08/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Rogerrabbit is absolutely right man. Listen to him. Pussyfart is right about the FAE, it is very key and you cannot simulate that as well as the SGFC can because of its design.


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: PussyFart]
    #22206631 - 09/08/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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i have been trying to manually replicate what the sgfc does by adding water to the verm every 3 hours almost saturating it and misting heavily while also
fanning



:facepalm:    http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek ;    Please read the page......it explains what the chamber does.......then u might figure out it doesn't need all that moisture....it needs FAE......




this page does not exist



Sorry    http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Terrarium-Tek





Ok That i am fully aware of the proper way to make a SGFC what are alternative ways to fruit mushrooms that will also work almost as good ive seen people using plastic bags ?


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: grimshaman]
    #22206637 - 09/08/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If you are only doing a single cake you can get by with a bucket and a plastic bag but more than one cake and you basically either need to do bulk grows or a SGFC.


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: EntheoGod]
    #22206642 - 09/08/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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If you are only doing a single cake you can get by with a bucket and a plastic bag but more than one cake and you basically either need to do bulk grows or a SGFC.




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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: grimshaman]
    #22206643 - 09/08/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

just steal a bag of perlite then, buy it on credit, ask a friend to borrow 5 bucks,
all those options are easier than what you're trying to do. what you got against proper fruiting chambers?


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: spacechildo]
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just steal a bag of perlite then, buy it on credit, ask a friend to borrow 5 bucks,
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    #22206646 - 09/08/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The results wouldnt be optimal but you could do it.


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just steal a bag of perlite then, buy it on credit, ask a friend to borrow 5 bucks,
all those options are easier than what you're trying to do. what you got against proper fruiting chambers?




no money




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just steal a bag of perlite then, buy it on credit, ask a friend to borrow 5 bucks,
all those options are easier than what you're trying to do. what you got against proper fruiting chambers?




no money




stealing or borrowing doesnt require any.




yeah ill just run out of home depot with a 50lb bag of perlite and than walk it to my house 3miles away lol as the cops chase me


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    #22206689 - 09/08/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

you dont need 50 lbs dude,and perlite doesnt weigh shit.
if you dont wanna steal borrow a fiver then.. anythings better than what you're doing now :shrug:


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    #22211953 - 09/09/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: grimshaman]
    #22212003 - 09/09/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

looks much better but you still need to elevate it, you're covering a lot of holes this way it seems.
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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: spacechildo]
    #22212008 - 09/09/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

it is elevated you dont see but the black thing is a 2x4 ill post pics


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    #22212013 - 09/09/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

yeah I can see that, its covering 2 whole rowes of holes!


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    #22212033 - 09/09/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I like to use empty beer cans on the 4 corners. Just saying


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    #22212063 - 09/09/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i have it now proped so it covers no holes do u think the solid lid will effect it and how should i be misting this ive been pouring water into verm and misting my cakes directly with a mister like 10 sprays each and the walls


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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: grimshaman]
    #22212073 - 09/09/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

how can it not be covering any holes? did you forget to make them?
mist the cakes and perlite, walls doesnt matter.


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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: spacechildo]
    #22212108 - 09/09/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

it is proped right next to the last row of holes so it holds the bin but no holes are blocked


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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: spacechildo]
    #22212181 - 09/09/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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how can it not be covering any holes? did you forget to make them?
mist the cakes and perlite, walls doesnt matter.



How much mist do i mist how often with this chamber setup


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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: grimshaman]
    #22212185 - 09/09/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

mist until the cakes glisten with moisture, then mist again when they no longer glisten with moisture.


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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: spacechildo]
    #22212218 - 09/09/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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mist until the cakes glisten with moisture, then mist again when they no longer glisten with moisture.




can you define glisten with moisture like water on top or what


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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: grimshaman]
    #22212297 - 09/09/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

glistening means little beads of water that makes the cake look shiny.


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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: spacechildo]
    #22212307 - 09/09/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

But no pooling water. There is such a thing as too wet too.


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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: Mad Season]
    #22212347 - 09/09/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

yeah :whathesaid:
beads = tiny drops of water, and just enough that makes it sparkle/glisten/shine when light hits it.


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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: spacechildo]
    #22212415 - 09/09/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

do you think the top being solid will effect anything


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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: grimshaman]
    #22212440 - 09/09/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

the top of what is solid how? sorry I dont understand..


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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: spacechildo]
    #22212461 - 09/09/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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the top of what is solid how? sorry I dont understand..



TOP OF BIN SOLID WHITE


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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: grimshaman]
    #22212466 - 09/09/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

LIGHT IT FROM THE SIDE


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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: cronicr]
    #22212490 - 09/09/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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LIGHT IT FROM THE SIDE



ive been lighting it from side so im guessing its fine


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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: grimshaman]
    #22212502 - 09/09/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:lol::thumbup:


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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: spacechildo]
    #22212796 - 09/09/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::laugh::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:


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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: grimshaman]
    #22213621 - 09/09/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

They started turning blue cakes and the base of the fruits

one of the fruits the biggest one fell off during transport of the tub so i ate it





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Re: OK I GOT IT [Re: grimshaman]
    #22213665 - 09/09/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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one of the fruits the biggest one fell off during transport of the tub so i ate it



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Re: Something is Gone Wrong ? Cakes and shrooms turning blue at the base ? [Re: grimshaman]
    #22213793 - 09/09/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

ANY IDEA WHY THE CAKES ARE TURNING BLUE AND THE BASE OF THE SHROOMS


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Re: Other cakes not pinning so well [Re: grimshaman]
    #22213884 - 09/09/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Verm and perlite cost roughly the same...its like 4 dollars. IME if you want good results you have to be willing to do it right the first time or spend extra money learning by screwing up a lot. Been there...done that..




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Re: Something is Gone Wrong ? Cakes and shrooms turning blue at the base ? [Re: grimshaman]
    #22214030 - 09/09/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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ANY IDEA WHY THE CAKES ARE TURNING BLUE AND THE BASE OF THE SHROOMS



BECAUSE YOU MISTED FUZZY FEET


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Re: Something is Gone Wrong ? Cakes and shrooms turning blue at the base ? [Re: cronicr]
    #22214124 - 09/09/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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ANY IDEA WHY THE CAKES ARE TURNING BLUE AND THE BASE OF THE SHROOMS



BECAUSE YOU MISTED FUZZY FEET




Do you also yell in your head when you type in caps?  :lol:

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Re: Something is Gone Wrong ? Cakes and shrooms turning blue at the base ? [Re: cronicr]
    #22214972 - 09/09/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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ANY IDEA WHY THE CAKES ARE TURNING BLUE AND THE BASE OF THE SHROOMS



BECAUSE YOU MISTED FUZZY FEET




i donot  understand should i not mist fuzzy feet


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Re: Something is Gone Wrong ? Cakes and shrooms turning blue at the base ? [Re: grimshaman]
    #22214993 - 09/09/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

no mist all you want, a little bluing never hurt nothing


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Re: Something is Gone Wrong ? Cakes and shrooms turning blue at the base ? [Re: cronicr]
    #22214998 - 09/09/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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no mist all you want, a little bluing never hurt nothing




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Re: Something is Gone Wrong ? Cakes and shrooms turning blue at the base ? [Re: grimshaman]
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they really like it in the sgfc




As they should, proper conditions make for proper fruits :thumbup:


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Re: Something is Gone Wrong ? Cakes and shrooms turning blue at the base ? [Re: grimshaman]
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they really like it in the sgfc



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