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Lingering Effects from High Dose LSD Question
#22174947 - 09/01/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I recently found a reliable connection to LSD (finally! after, like, six fucking years!) and I tried some of his stronger paper.
The paper was said to be about ~200ug, which I can believe, because I only took half a hit and tripped pretty damn good. I can't imagine my dose being less than 100ug. The visuals were crisp, clear, some warping, (a doll that was laying around blinked at me - freaky!) colors were amazing, the mental effects exceeded expectations etc. Before I got this connection, I must have been taking RCs/analogues or something, because I've never had anything that felt like this stuff. I hadn't done LSD (or, you know, "LSD") in like three years, and boy it's good to be back.
I want to continue taking the occasional journey, but here's my concern:
When I took just 100ug, the effects lingered for like 2-3 days. Nothing like HPPD or anything, but I didn't sleep for two days and I had a lot of anxiety. I was back to normal after about a week when I caught up on my sleep and ate a decent diet. If I decide to work my way up to the higher doses, like 500-700ug, should I expect any lingering effects to last long enough that it would interfere with my life?
I strive to maintain the perfect set and setting, and tripping is not something I take lightly like I do with alcohol. I make sure I approach a trip with respect to the chemical and myself.
What are your experiences with taking high dose LSD trips? Were you "off" for a good period of time? If so, how long did it take until you "came back"? Did it ever mess with your work/school?
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Re: Lingering Effects from High Dose LSD Question [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
#22175027 - 09/01/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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its funny ... your speaking about hppd.....
Well.. Drugs just hack the communication system of the brain. In the brain you have dopamin, you have adrenalin, serotonin, 5HT1 and other..
Drugs Prevent the recapture of the neurone. well sorry my english am french and i dont eat frogs ok ? x)
What am trying to say is. when your on drugs, the brain does not recapture the neurone to one synapse to an other one, it block the recapture.
I guess, when you came back to the ground, your brain need time to work normally, like before, like before being hacked by a substance, you get me ?
Also carreful with hppd. If some days after tripping you have some white flash when you close your eyes, this is so shit man, stay clean for some time until this is gone. Also if some days after a trip you still have some small hallucinations, the ground start to morph, you feel shit in your head, strenge sensation, you better stay clean for a couple of time. Even smoking hash will fuck you up....
But you know.. Its not only about brain and neuron. You also have to take in consideration your mind.. Yeah your mind, also your body, each person will react differently on drugs, as i said on my post, 1grams of hawaiian mush will not make me trip hard, and other people will fly like hell with only half of a grams..
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i hope you get me....
last thing, you said.
>>> What are your experiences with taking high dose LSD trips? Were you "off" for a good period of time? If so, how long did it take until you "came back"? Did it ever mess with your work/school?
Well i will not tell you my story about mushroom but....
Ive got hppd for like 3 years. So yes it fucked up my life for 3 years, 3 years tripping day and night, and this fokin pain, in my eyes, head in my whole body.
i stop here its enough.
Carreful, dont take lsd every months.
Take a good one, then wait like 5 or more then 6 months. Trust me. Its because i like redstar, nothing like lsd for me.. You dont enter in something, you have some visual, your mind stay pretty clean, at end of the trip you can go sleep.
But this is how i reacted on red star... maybe other people will fly hard on stars....
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Edited by micropoint (09/01/15 06:29 PM)
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Re: Lingering Effects from High Dose LSD Question [Re: micropoint]
#22175079 - 09/01/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I found your post endearing
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Re: Lingering Effects from High Dose LSD Question [Re: Sagescruffy]
#22175213 - 09/01/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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well i know my english sux but i try my best to explain.
What i simply want to say here is.
For big dosage....
Avoid the idea to take big dosage every months or less...
After a big trip..... Your brain really need to be relax for a couple of time.....
Well for sure... i know some people in NL that take mushroom every weeks and get back on the ground without problem.
And i know some people that will took mushrooms only 15 times ( like me ) and got hppd for like 3 years .....
So i mean it. You did a big trip ? ^^ ok now let your brain relax.
The day you start to have some strong white flash eyes close, to have hallucinations without taking any substance, its too late.. welcome hppd.
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Re: Lingering Effects from High Dose LSD Question [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
#22175829 - 09/01/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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ONE OZ SLUG said: I recently found a reliable connection to LSD (finally! after, like, six fucking years!) and I tried some of his stronger paper.
The paper was said to be about ~200ug, which I can believe, because I only took half a hit and tripped pretty damn good. I can't imagine my dose being less than 100ug. The visuals were crisp, clear, some warping, (a doll that was laying around blinked at me - freaky!) colors were amazing, the mental effects exceeded expectations etc. Before I got this connection, I must have been taking RCs/analogues or something, because I've never had anything that felt like this stuff. I hadn't done LSD (or, you know, "LSD") in like three years, and boy it's good to be back.
I want to continue taking the occasional journey, but here's my concern:
When I took just 100ug, the effects lingered for like 2-3 days. Nothing like HPPD or anything, but I didn't sleep for two days and I had a lot of anxiety. I was back to normal after about a week when I caught up on my sleep and ate a decent diet. If I decide to work my way up to the higher doses, like 500-700ug, should I expect any lingering effects to last long enough that it would interfere with my life?
I strive to maintain the perfect set and setting, and tripping is not something I take lightly like I do with alcohol. I make sure I approach a trip with respect to the chemical and myself.
What are your experiences with taking high dose LSD trips? Were you "off" for a good period of time? If so, how long did it take until you "came back"? Did it ever mess with your work/school?
I experience similar things with LSD and its one of the reasons I no longer use it. THe natural psychedelics are so much easier on my brain.
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Re: Lingering Effects from High Dose LSD Question [Re: Deviate]
#22175859 - 09/01/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can eat the hell out of some mushrooms and won't have any kind of lingering effect when it's all done, but damn if I take so much as 100ug I am just totally out there for a long time.
Do you or anybody else have experience with 300ug+ doses? I want to experience a high dose at least once, but not if it's gonna throw me off to where I can't function at school for a month or two. I wouldn't high dose regularly or anything.
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The day you start to have some strong white flash eyes close, to have hallucinations without taking any substance, its too late.. welcome hppd.
I totally had that for like two days after I dosed but it's gone now. For a week mentally I was slow; I would think about something then totally forget twenty seconds later. Or I'll be driving down the road and I'll find myself so deep in thought that I forget where I am. It's much better now though. It's been two weeks since my last dose.
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Re: Lingering Effects from High Dose LSD Question [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
#22176562 - 09/01/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds like you got your dosage set pretty good. Watch out man, 600-700ug is a MASSIVE dose if that's the actual strength that you have. With a 700mic trip I was still tripping well into the morning of the next day.
I would say stick with 500ug if not less if you're looking to get reallyyyyy far out there. Make sure it's real LSD first with a test kit!!!! 5 tabs of nbome could kill you.
For me my high doses never interfered with anything in my day to day life as long as I left a full day to recover after my trip. But with that all said enjoy! It's truly something amazing watching your word disolve as you start to blend into the universe
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Re: Lingering Effects from High Dose LSD Question [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
#22176993 - 09/02/15 04:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I totally had that for like two days after I dosed but it's gone now. For a week mentally I was slow; I would think about something then totally forget twenty seconds later. Or I'll be driving down the road and I'll find myself so deep in thought that I forget where I am. It's much better now though. It's been two weeks since my last dose.
OK. so if you already ad those kind of thing for 2 days, you have to be carreful, cause you are maybe like me... subject to hppd ^^ ....
And this is what we really want to avoid, hppd...
ok... your not maybe subject to hppd.. lol well we all are if we do shit with substance...
it take some days months and more time to time to lsd to leave the body completely.. ^^
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Edited by micropoint (09/02/15 04:29 AM)
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Re: Lingering Effects from High Dose LSD Question [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22177053 - 09/02/15 05:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is how I'd explain it without thinking too far into it. My way of explaining the myriad of after-effects that high dose lsd brings about.
500-700 ugs wil make you trip extremely hard so try to know it's actually lsd as someone posted earlier. Don't know how you'd go about knowing that as a noob to lsd unless you're experienced with other things that come on paper hits. nboh's and nbomes can kill you when you take too much as you probably know. And if it's A dox you might be in for a scary ride thinking it was acid and dosed it "big" according to what little you actually know about your hits.
So as long as you can be sure it's lsd by whatever means. Have some way of knowing what you are taking when dosing big.
Also know that lsd can have very obvious after effects for weeks. That's a big ass dose(and your hits are probably 100-130 ugs anyway, and that's strong stuff). Most people will have an easy time with whatever inevitable after effects and nobody would think anything was wrong with you or anything in these weeks after.
But worst case: if you had a nasty reaction you might be all screwed up in the head and unable to act or think normally/comfortably even to the point of breakdown or a sort of ptsd however totally uncommon this is(I mean extreme lasting reactions to 500+ possibly including hospital visits and psych help etc). All in all, you can indeed be pretty spacy in the week/weeks after, but most acid heads think of it as fun because you certainly are not losing attention to detail or making yourself "less quick" or anything like that. You just basically have opened your third eye; might play guitar or your favorite instrument better than ever before, and though you come back into yourself, you still may have access to some very psychedelic states of mind which may or may not change the outcomes in your daily life. The butterfly effect sort of thing. The whole thing and everything is a fractal and you'd hope you have a common reaction and that fractal doesn't take a turn for the worse. You don't just come back to normal after taking 500+ ugs. You become one tripped out person for an unknown amount of time, which can both work to your advantage or your disadvantage. It's commonly quite neutral. These obvious after effects that few people DON'T have.
It can even interfere with how you react to stimuli or how enthused you are given whatever circumstance. Can change your motivations. Can effect your temperament in both good or bad ways. Etc etc etc etc etc. All that said, it works out fine for most people and they consider it normal after effects which they use to their advantage or even enjoy. But if you are worried that the complexity of the carpet on the floor being super interesting and distracting you during a meeting or something, acid totally can do that, and you don't have to call it hppd. It's natural. This sort of thing is entirely possible and even probable. For example, Years ago in highschool I missed quite a few drivers ed classes because I was mesmerized by the after effects of 500 ugs. I was in class, but not really there in most ways. Shit was just too trippy to pay good attention. If I had wanted to pay attention I could have. But I was altered for a week and then some, and that was with a young and virile nervous system/brain. It can fuck with your short and long term memory. But that typically just comes down to the information your mind has the energy or motivation to retain at the time. It mostly subsides after 3-4 weeks. The same amount of time it takes for your tolerance to be back to flat-normal again.
Acid is way too profound to not have really interesting after effects. Sometimes it weirds people out. Depends on the person. It's simple. Most people are normal during these days when the after effects are still strong. Life is just way more psychedelic than usual if it could be put most simply. How intense it is depends on the person.
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Edited by rajabrokes (09/02/15 05:28 AM)
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Re: Lingering Effects from High Dose LSD Question [Re: rajabrokes]
#22177111 - 09/02/15 05:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've never heard a dealer say anything but 200+ per hit. Isn't that funny. Unless they are in the know and can make a good guess or actually know how much per hit as a fact. 150 ugs is about the strongest stuff you will find ever. People tend to not know that 100 ugs produces full effects and can be mind blowing. Unless somebody makes a personal batch of gels or blots that are 200-250 mics, that sort of dose per hit is really unlikely. That's because one of those can make some people have a nervous breakdown, egos shattered, streaking etc. LOL. That's why people in good conscience don't lay them higher than 130-150. Almost never.
Still I bet those acid tests with the Grateful Dead back in the day must have been fun, because people were laying hits to be super duper effective at making real magic happen for all those involved. I doubt those hits or chugs from the community jars were normal by todays standards. I get a kick out of how you can almost see that in the footage, and I love how people seem to have remained comfortable for the most part as it was a group experience. When everyone is on it you would tend to let go and not have problems with feeling like your life was in danger due to being so completely altered. The grateful Dead is the best band ever. Crackling machine elves and insect parts. Anyone who doesn't like them even on a bad night is a philistine. End rant. Just felt like unfairly attacking people who can't hear what the Grateful Dead were doing during their jams, especially before they got really good at playing music. You gots to hear that. Some people don't know that they were T. McKenna's fav band. Go figure. He could hear them.
-------------------- Really though we are not living in a scientific or technological age. Today human life is dominated by a hateful and greedy form of stasis which stands in the way of a coming technological age. One where there is hope for the future for example, instead of fear.
Edited by rajabrokes (09/02/15 06:01 AM)
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Re: Lingering Effects from High Dose LSD Question [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
#22177277 - 09/02/15 07:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah man, I'd say you're flirting with disaster if yer talking about avoiding hppd. Unless you are present whilst the chemist distributes the doses, it's hard to know exactly how much yer taking, let alone how you'll emerge on the other side. I once took four hits and had an incredible experience- it was profound and extremely visual, and I came back in one piece.
The very next time, two months later, I "played it safe", taking only two hits, and found myself tripping waaaaaaaay harder. It was a really bad time. For a little more than two years following the experience, I had persistent trails and heightened anxiety, as well as bouts of psychosis. Nights filled me with dread and panic, as I could barely see in the dark. For about six months it was absolutely soul crushing, seeing movement everywhere all the time. But then I got used to it, as strange as that may seem. One has to in order to function amongst the normals again. As time passed, the effects became more and more faint.
Just a heads up. It can definitely set you back a few years, especially if you have goals. I'm okay now and everything is fine again, but it really, really wasn't for a long time.
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Re: Lingering Effects from High Dose LSD Question [Re: JesusMcChrist]
#22177286 - 09/02/15 07:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you all. I will keep everything in mind when I decide to take a high dose. For now I will work my way up in increments of 50 to 100 ug (or half a hit to a hit) until I find the right dose. Without divulging too much information I can say that my guy is reliable, tests came back positive, and he is very consistent.
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Re: Lingering Effects from High Dose LSD Question [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
#22177302 - 09/02/15 08:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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