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Rumi revisited 3
#22174253 - 09/01/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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OK, OK! I mocked one of his quotes, but the following one really hit home after my recent emotional struggles with a potential love interest.
"Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.” ~ Rumi
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OrgoneConclusion said: OK, OK! I mocked one of his quotes, but the following one really hit home after my recent emotional struggles with a potential love interest.
"Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.” ~ Rumi
You may be almost ready for The Little Book Of Love.
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I got you 'Chicken Soup for the Soul' for Christmas.
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This being human is a guest house. Every morning a new arrival.
A joy, a depression, a meanness, some momentary awareness comes as an unexpected visitor.
Welcome and entertain them all! Even if they're a crowd of sorrows, who violently sweep your house empty of its furniture, still, treat each guest honourably. He may be clearing you out for some new delight.
The dark thought, the shame, the malice, meet them at the door laughing, and invite them in.
Be grateful for whoever comes, because each has been sent as a guide from beyond.
also...
Learn about your inner self from those who know such things, but don't repeat verbatim what they say
-- Rumi
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Re: Rumi revisited [Re: DisoRDeR]
#22176597 - 09/02/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Let me Rumi-nate on these things.
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OrgoneConclusion said: I got you 'Chicken Soup for the Soul' for Christmas.
"Some good stories but gets old after a while." - Two Stars
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Everyone is overridden by thoughts; that's why they have so much heartache and sorrow. At times I give myself up to thought purposefully; but when I choose, I spring up from those under its sway. I am like a high-flying bird, and thought is a gnat: how should a gnat overpower me?
- Rumi
“Moonlight floods the whole sky from horizon to horizon; How much it can fill your room depends on its windows.” ― Rumi
-------------------- zen by age ten times six hundred lifetimes Light up the darkness.
Edited by hTx (09/02/15 11:26 AM)
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I laughed at your other post on Rumi, but the quotes here are really good.
Anyone have any books or anything by Rumi that they'd recommend?
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Re: Rumi revisited [Re: r72rock]
#22179984 - 09/02/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm pulling these from The Essential Rumi, translated by Coleman Barks.
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Re: Rumi revisited [Re: DisoRDeR]
#22261444 - 09/19/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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wonderful
I have one small drop of knowing in my soul. Let it dissolve in your ocean. -Rumi
Edited by Kuhl (09/19/15 06:29 PM)
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Re: Rumi revisited [Re: Kuhl]
#22262747 - 09/19/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm so glad to have found this thread! I love Rumi. One of my favorites:
Oh Beloved, take me. Liberate my soul. Fill me with your love and release me from the two worlds. If I set my heart on anything but you let fire burn me from inside.
Oh Beloved, take away what I want. Take away what I do. Take away what I need. Take away everything that takes me from you.
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Re: Rumi revisited [Re: Ms Eva]
#22262779 - 09/19/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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And...
you are not a drop in the ocean You are the entire ocean in a drop.
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White Beard

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translated poetry is dumb
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translated poetry is dumb
It translates better after a few rumi and coke. 
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Re: Rumi revisited [Re: Diploid]
#22268074 - 09/21/15 04:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Havana Club Blanca Reserva?
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Where am I? This thread doesn't feel right.
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White Beard said: translated poetry is dumb
Of course it loses something in the translation, particularly when the languages have significant structural differences.
There is often a necessary choice between a literal, scholarly approach, a thesaurus-stretching effort to fit the translation to the structure and rhythm of the original, and an attempt to capture its deeper meaning. I have two copies of Faust on my shelf that read very differently because of such divergent approaches.
Coleman Barks has this to say about his translations of Rumi and how he got started:
(brace yourself for mystic stuff)
(1:12)
One potentially significant point is that he does not read or speak persian, but rather works from scholarly english translations. Also, he chose to abandon the rhyming structure of the originals in favour of the style of american free verse. Rumi's writing is apparently loaded with puns and rhymes which don't survive translation, so yes, translated poetry is a bit dumb, but if it's beautiful then I'll still take it.
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