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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#22187341 - 09/04/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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 who is that guy, hes hot as fuck. oh man

i actually came to him. jacked it.
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#22187627 - 09/04/15 11:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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SoupSandwich said: I am. The fuck would I do with a criminology degree?
Nothing, you're too stupid even to catch a scammer. You can try ho'ing yourself out? Most honest occupation there is.
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: What an idiot. Why would you bust your ass at McDonalds to save up money for college and then get a degree in criminology? She better be going to law school.
Sammich, I've been waiting tables all throughout college and while it does suck, its good money and cash in your pocket every night if you can manage to land somewhere nice.
She doesn't have any debt how about you?

I didn't really get it either but she has a bank job now, credible degree gets you credible work
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: Beanhead]
#22187639 - 09/04/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I have debt. Its not ridiculous or anything though. Lets just put it this way, I'm qualified to do way more and will probably make way more money with my degree than she will. A bank job? She's probably a fuckin teller You can do that with a fucking GED
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#22187652 - 09/04/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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"probably"

you'll get over your insecurities one day.
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: Beanhead]
#22187660 - 09/04/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I mean, if she decides to go to a top law school and gets to work in a good firm, she could definitely make just as much if not more than me one day. Just being realistic
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: Mr. Material]
#22187709 - 09/04/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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more like 1000's of trolls, how many of us if used as a reference would give him the worst reference of all time just for the lolz. it would be quiet fun and halarious to make up some stupid horrible stories of working with someone as a fake reference. a pretty good one i just thought of is you make him sound good, like real good, then you quickly switch it up and make it like you were describing how he was having sex with you in a back room during your shift one time
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22187750 - 09/04/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said:
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more like 1000's of trolls, how many of us if used as a reference would give him the worst reference of all time just for the lolz. it would be quiet fun and halarious to make up some stupid horrible stories of working with someone as a fake reference.
More importantly "references" generally refers to past supervisors and/or coworkers. If you're using buddies as a "reference" its very likely your job is shit.
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: SoupSandwich] 1
#22191388 - 09/05/15 04:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So what do you make of all this, SoupSammich?
Are you gonna try and get out there next week?
I know I'm like a broken record, but a temp agency will probably still take you even if you're honest about your lack of work. Just think of some positive bullcrap to say. Also I never even ended up giving my temp agency my third reference, and one the number was disconnected. They bugged me every once in a while about it until it was obvious it didn't matter because I worked hard.
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: SoupSandwich] 1
#22191400 - 09/05/15 04:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Basically the only thing that works for me, is having someone in the company with the ability to hire me, or have influence with the person who does the hiring. I hadn't worked in many years when I got probation and trying to find a job became mandatory. No one would hire me. No would hire me before that point either. I eventually got a job through a friend in retail. Then moved up to manager, and realized quickly why people with shitty work experience are generally avoided. Almost every single person who fit that bill while I was there, flaked out hardcore in less than a week or two.
Being a manger doesn't mean getting to sit in the office all day, unfortunately. I had more responsibility than any other employee except the few above me. So when someone decided they just didn't want to come in that day for whatever reason, it put me in a huge bind. I had more to do on any given day, than I could really get accomplished even without having to take over the tasks they would've been responsible for if they showed up (which was also more than anyone could really accomplish in a day). Employers want reliable people, and unfortunately the only real way to show you're reliable, is a good work history.
There are a few things this doesn't apply to, but in general, this is pretty much fact. Just because any idiot can ring up items, doesn't mean it's as simple as just instantly replacing you. So people are reluctant to even take the chance. At the very least, in a retail setting, when you get fired and have to be replaced because you're a dumbass teen who thinks going out on the weekends is more important that your job, it's going to be 2-3 weeks before a replacement is found. Which as I mentioned above, when we have to take up their slack, it puts everyone in a huge bind.
I've never done it, honestly I'd think lying your ass off and hoping they don't check is the best course of action unless you know someone who can get you hired.
Construction is a pretty safe bet. They don't generally go through all the bureaucracy that other places of employment do. To top it off even, practically anyone can do the work, so inevitably someone in the company always knows someone looking for work. They can (and I have seen it happen) be working the next day. No stress, no bullshit. Problem solved as quickly as it appeared.
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22191406 - 09/05/15 04:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yep or you could do roofing as well, they will definitely hire you no questions if they need the manpower.
Construction is easier though. Roofing pays well but it's for a good reason. Your back will be gone by the time you're 50 roofing.
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: Midnight_Toker] 1
#22191420 - 09/05/15 04:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not if u do yoga^
Op, before u decide to anything u have to prepare urself mentally, realize that ur probably gonna have to work a shit job for a awhile, nothing wrong with that, fast food jobs aren't dead ends unless u let them and u really have nothing else planned except for working at mcdonalds.
Have a plan, and stick to it.
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: zZZz] 1
#22191613 - 09/05/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seriously though, fuck working at Mcdonalds with a bunch of pimply faced teenagers that are still in high school. Just get a serving job. You could probably go to a temp agency and they could land you a decent office gig if you're lucky.
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#22191647 - 09/05/15 07:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yep. Try out both office and labour from the temp agencies and see which one suits you better.
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
#22191782 - 09/05/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you do roofs every summer all summer you'll be lucky to make it to 50 before your back goes. I've been doing it for 5 years and my back is shot if the temperature goes below 50 I'm pretty worthless. Luckily I get alot of siding and framing jobs those aren't as bad.
But alot of roofing/construction places will hire you without looking for references and past jobs and all that jazz. Alot of guys need people to do the grunt work and it's really hard to get someone to to work for you long term. Most of the guys I've hired have only lasted a summer. And most of them were flaky as hell. I just pretty much hire anyone who looks like they can physically do the job and don't look like they'll steal all my tools.
Also like mentioned before temp agencies are a good way to go. If they need people they'll hire anyone. They pretty much get paid part of your salary so if they don't have someone working they aren't making money. Even if it's a one day job they will look to hire someone. I've had success with them in the past but always had to pass a drug test the day I interviewed so keep that in mind before you go in. A few times I went in they said go take a drug test now and start work tomorrow.
There's options out there you just have to look. In my area the only people who are unemployed are people who don't want to work. The big excuse for them is blaming it on the economy but really their just lazy. When people say y
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: DTCharlieB]
#22191978 - 09/05/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would seriously look into male escorting and just work at a fast food place until you get into the swing of things. Then go to a CC and get a degree
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: topdog82]
#22191997 - 09/05/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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BTW, I'm taking some of the advice in this thread. Also, getting really high. 
Threw up kratom while stuck in traffic. That was a blast. Thank God it was after the interview (at a book/music store, figured I'd start high...no sense immediately settling for the lowest fruit)...the interview went well and I might have a job!
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22192127 - 09/05/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Being a manger doesn't mean getting to sit in the office all day, unfortunately. I had more responsibility than any other employee except the few above me. So when someone decided they just didn't want to come in that day for whatever reason, it put me in a huge bind. I had more to do on any given day, than I could really get accomplished even without having to take over the tasks they would've been responsible for if they showed up (which was also more than anyone could really accomplish in a day). Employers want reliable people, and unfortunately the only real way to show you're reliable, is a good work history.
Nothing like having full on stress (that would match any high dollar job) due to dealing with an overwhelming number of customers since 2 of your employees decided they 'didnt feel good' all while knowing in the back of your mind that you arent even getting paid a livable wage. Oh and since the people didnt show up you basically have to work until close even though you opened because the store wont operate if you leave.
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#22192150 - 09/05/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's good. I mean even if you get a job you don't like you could also continue to search for a better job you like more. Seems like alot of times as soon as people find a job they just settle for it and stop looking to advance. I've done this before. Got a shitty job. Hated every minute of it. But I didn't look for a better one. If you keep searching eventually you ll land the job yo momma will be proud of.
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: DTCharlieB]
#22192158 - 09/05/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm in that position right now.. Keep saying I want to get out of there but I never do.
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Re: I haven't worked in ten years, and have no references, what should I do? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
#22192232 - 09/05/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's kind of hard once you get into a work routine. Work usually takes up alot of time then you get complacent and it's just kind of a pain to find another job. Sometimes it's hard to schedule interviews because your other job gets in the way. Etc. Etc.
It's hard to make that first step but worth it in the long run.
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