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What kind of shrooms are these
    #22172779 - 09/01/15 07:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hello my buddy came across some field shrooms in fl growing in cow dung. Dont have to many specs. Need to know what kind, edible, pyschoactive etc.. Thx


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Re: What kind of shrooms are these [Re: Germ88]
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Re: What kind of shrooms are these [Re: Germ88]
    #22172788 - 09/01/15 07:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Panaeolus papilionaceus


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Re: What kind of shrooms are these [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #22172828 - 09/01/15 07:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

[url=https://files.shroomery.org/files/15-36/111525838-20150901_094248_HDR.jpg]


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Re: What kind of shrooms are these [Re: Germ88]
    #22172831 - 09/01/15 07:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Panaeolus papilionaceus still


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Re: What kind of shrooms are these [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #22172996 - 09/01/15 08:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I wikipidia'd your definition. And the picture for the shroom has a pointy cap and is light brown yellowish; mine are round flat. Whiteish blue. So not sure. Maybe same family


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Re: What kind of shrooms are these [Re: Germ88]
    #22173015 - 09/01/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's possible that you have a mix of panaeolus papilionaceus,and copelandia,but hard to tell with them all bunched up in a bag,no offense.

I do see that the majority is panaeolus papilionaceus,I can assure you on that one if not all of them.


Edited by kactus.brand.g (09/01/15 08:46 AM)


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Re: What kind of shrooms are these [Re: Germ88]
    #22173017 - 09/01/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Germ88 said:
I wikipidia'd your definition. And the picture for the shroom has a pointy cap and is light brown yellowish; mine are round flat. Whiteish blue. So not sure. Maybe same family




He is right, they are pan paps... They vary greatly in appearance, check out the google image search results, not just the one or 2 pics in Wikipedia:

https://www.google.com/search?q=panaeolus+papilionaceus&espv=2&biw=1600&bih=905&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMIxuu2wInWxwIVA44NCh2DzgeY&dpr=0.9


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Re: What kind of shrooms are these [Re: doctorghosty]
    #22173175 - 09/01/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Are they edible? Psychoactive? Ill them him to sort them and post better pics. He said they were bruising blue if that helps.


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Re: What kind of shrooms are these [Re: Germ88]
    #22173186 - 09/01/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

They are edible,but not psychoactive.
They also taste like what they grow from as well.


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Re: What kind of shrooms are these [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #22173198 - 09/01/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Great... Thx for the info.


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Re: What kind of shrooms are these [Re: Germ88]
    #22173214 - 09/01/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Are they edible? Psychoactive? Ill them him to sort them and post better pics. He said they were bruising blue if that helps.




for the sake of accurate ID, if not just for the politeness and thoroughness of it, have them sorted and take new pics.

certainly possible to have an active or three in a bunch like that. at least one shows what might be bruising in the pic but it's going to be hard to get a thorough ID of a big ole batch in a bag.


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Re: What kind of shrooms are these [Re: relic]
    #22173221 - 09/01/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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relic said:
Quote:

Germ88 said:
Are they edible? Psychoactive? Ill them him to sort them and post better pics. He said they were bruising blue if that helps.




for the sake of accurate ID, if not just for the politeness and thoroughness of it, have them sorted and take new pics.

certainly possible to have an active or three in a bunch like that. at least one shows what might be bruising in the pic but it's going to be hard to get a thorough ID of a big ole batch in a bag.




:whathesaid:

And yeah I see one mushroom that appears to have bluing on the stem,out of all those paps,in the very center of the pic,so it's possible there is an active or two in the lot.


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Re: What kind of shrooms are these [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #22173287 - 09/01/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ok thx a bunch. I will tell to sort and retske pic. So blueing on stem is what i look for? What about blue bruising on cap? What are some of the best signs of a magic shroom out of this bunch.


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Re: What kind of shrooms are these [Re: Germ88]
    #22173311 - 09/01/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The whole mushroom can bruise blue, personally, i think these are all paps.


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With each containing one of the following:
Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk?
Didn't think so.

This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: What kind of shrooms are these [Re: Blazeyy] * 1
    #22173321 - 09/01/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Blazeyy said:
The whole mushroom can bruise blue, personally, i think these are all paps.




same here and I tried to "Where's Waldo" that picture for copes for about 3 minutes.


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Re: What kind of shrooms are these [Re: doctorghosty]
    #22173685 - 09/01/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So paps have no blue bruising at all? Not even after sitting for some time? And if u said there could be some good ones in the bunch does that mean that there's a similar shroom that looks just like a paps? Thx


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Re: What kind of shrooms are these [Re: Germ88]
    #22173726 - 09/01/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You would know if they was copes, they blue heavily, they don't call em Blue meanies for nothing :thumbup:

Paps will not bruise blue since they contain no active chemicals.


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I give you the choice of 2 pills.

With each containing one of the following:
Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk?
Didn't think so.

This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: What kind of shrooms are these [Re: Blazeyy]
    #22173778 - 09/01/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Pictures coming soon. But there's def. some blue!


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• ID Request • [Re: Germ88]
    #22173885 - 09/01/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Habitat:
In a field where cattle are often seen grazing.

Gills:
Velvety appearance.

Stem:
Light beige colour.

Cap:
Light beige colour.

Spore print colour:
Not observed.

Bruising:
Not observed.

Location:
Clare, Ireland.

Other information:
Panaeolus papilionaceus?



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Re: • ID Request • [Re: Avocado]
    #22173889 - 09/01/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Threadjacking Pan paps


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Re: • ID Request • [Re: doctorghosty]
    #22173992 - 09/01/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah ironically they're the same! :laugh:  :cookiemonster: 

:nocomment:


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I give you the choice of 2 pills.

With each containing one of the following:
Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk?
Didn't think so.

This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: • ID Request • [Re: doctorghosty]
    #22174053 - 09/01/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Threadjacking Pan paps




Lol, wtf, normally the thread jackers are posting for the first time, that person has over 70 posts.


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Re: • ID Request • [Re: MagicDave]
    #22174069 - 09/01/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Avocado:

Yes.  P. papilionaceus

In the future, please create your own thread.


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Re: • ID Request • [Re: mountainplayer]
    #22174162 - 09/01/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So this first pic the shrooms to the left left have blue in their stems one to the right dont. Which 95% of the bag had no blue whatsoever. What do you guys think?[url=http://files.shroomery.org/files/15-36/1137970199th3-20150901_160459.jpg][/url


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Re: • ID Request • [Re: Germ88]
    #22174166 - 09/01/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think we need a pic that will expand,come on man:lol:


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Re: • ID Request • [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #22174176 - 09/01/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Same pics as before on user gallery too.



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I give you the choice of 2 pills.

With each containing one of the following:
Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk?
Didn't think so.

This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: • ID Request • [Re: Blazeyy]
    #22174284 - 09/01/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

sry about that guys still new to the forum thing and on mobile device bare with me thanks!

So out of all this the bottom right shrooms only ones with blue.
2nd pic shows "blueish shrooms" left and regular right.



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Re: • ID Request • [Re: Germ88]
    #22174290 - 09/01/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Will persistence paid off,you do have some copelandia in the mix:thumbup:


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Re: • ID Request • [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #22174303 - 09/01/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:fuckinawesome:


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I give you the choice of 2 pills.

With each containing one of the following:
Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk?
Didn't think so.

This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: • ID Request • [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #22174400 - 09/01/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

YES!!!! so the ones on the left are copelandia? edible? psychoactive?


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Re: • ID Request • [Re: Germ88]
    #22174429 - 09/01/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, paps don't blue.
Quote:

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YES!!!! so the ones on the left are copelandia? edible? psychoactive?




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I give you the choice of 2 pills.

With each containing one of the following:
Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk?
Didn't think so.

This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: • ID Request • [Re: Blazeyy] * 1
    #22174442 - 09/01/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I knew I saw at least one in the mix from the beginning.


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Re: • ID Request • [Re: Blazeyy]
    #22174494 - 09/01/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Whelp I don't know you guys at all. But I trust in your judgement and it kind of makes sense to me aswell,( and i did a little research myself of course) so thanks for all the feedback. and here I gooooooo.....jk :wink: do u guys know anything further? pls let me know. Much appreciated!


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Re: • ID Request • [Re: Germ88]
    #22174523 - 09/01/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator

Yeah, i know being stronger than libs they will blow your socks off.

So use that^

1 gram dry i'd go with, that's roughly 10 grams fresh.


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I give you the choice of 2 pills.

With each containing one of the following:
Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk?
Didn't think so.

This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: • ID Request • [Re: Blazeyy]
    #22174555 - 09/01/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks. By any chance do you guys know how to store them and when do they start going bad or lose potency?


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Re: • ID Request • [Re: Germ88]
    #22174605 - 09/01/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If you dry them properly they can last over a year but potency will degrade a bit, some species can last years.

Glass (sealed) is a good storage device, jars etc.

With the ratio of the chemicals i'm seeing here and with Psilocin degrading the fastest i'd say eat them within 7 months and you shouldn't notice much loss in potency.


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I give you the choice of 2 pills.

With each containing one of the following:
Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk?
Didn't think so.

This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: • ID Request • [Re: Blazeyy]
    #22174833 - 09/01/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

just make sure all the moisture is out right?


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Re: • ID Request • [Re: Germ88]
    #22177034 - 09/02/15 04:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Germ88 said:
just make sure all the moisture is out right?





Yeah they should be cracker dry, stipe should be very fragile (breaks easily, doesn't bend).


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I give you the choice of 2 pills.

With each containing one of the following:
Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk?
Didn't think so.

This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: • ID Request • [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #22177299 - 09/02/15 08:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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kactus.brand.g said:
I knew I saw at least one in the mix from the beginning.




:wink: :thumbup:

ETA: its the one with the beautiful blue thumb print on it; saw it, too.


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