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Offlinemuckamuck
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    #22172444 - 09/01/15 03:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It probably shouldn't matter but I feel ripped off that all the druids are dead. How do I overcome the lack of spiritual traditions available to white people today? My elders are all idiots. No shamans, no artists, no heroes, why can't I go out and find a cow to chase down and kill with my hands? who made everything so boring?


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Re: lineage [Re: muckamuck]
    #22172695 - 09/01/15 06:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

All spiritual traditions are available to anyone!! I'd say that's progress right there my brother!

I love the idea of true hunting though. IMO, powerful people made everything so boring by introducing money into the equation.


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Re: lineage [Re: muckamuck]
    #22177198 - 09/02/15 07:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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muckamuck said:
It probably shouldn't matter but I feel ripped off that all the druids are dead. How do I overcome the lack of spiritual traditions available to white people today? My elders are all idiots. No shamans, no artists, no heroes, why can't I go out and find a cow to chase down and kill with my hands? who made everything so boring?




that is ignorant. Shamans, artists and heroes still exist. What have you done to reach out and find such. Have you sought a teacher? Today, it is at your fingertips with the internet and phones. You don't reach spirituality from your living room. You need to reach out and commune with nature. I recharge every year at a sacred Native American site.


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Re: lineage [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #22177251 - 09/02/15 07:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not Native American though, and I don't want to recharge once a year, I want to be able to participate in a meaningful way within my own community. The idea that I have to reach out to another culture to find a teacher says it all.


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Re: lineage [Re: muckamuck]
    #22177859 - 09/02/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The idea that I have to reach out to another culture to find a teacher says it all.



Can you elucidate? What does it say? That the white man's spiritual tradition of consumerism is not for you?

Big deal. Like kosmokratorshaman says; What have you done to reach out and find such?


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Re: lineage [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22179953 - 09/02/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well I think it is a big deal. Is consumerism really the white man's spiritual tradition? or did it supplant something else? You're telling me to find better elders but that's not a fair thing to say to a child, we get what we're given in that regard and nobody gets to choose how they're raised. I see my people being displaced, deeply unhappy, killing themselves with alcohol and it just makes me sad.
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Re: lineage [Re: muckamuck]
    #22180107 - 09/02/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I see my people being displaced, deeply unhappy, killing themselves with alcohol and it just makes me sad.



Yeah, you've no idea what I've been through with that shit of late. That 'nobody gets to choose how they're raised' is a non sequitur. It's what you do with your life, if you ever get to that stage where you take FULL responsibility for it, that matters. I don't think most do.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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Re: lineage [Re: muckamuck]
    #22180147 - 09/02/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Nobody gets to choose how they are raised, but you get to a point where your introduced to outside influences, especially now  a days with the internet. So many kids have access to so many different opinions and thoughts and beliefs. We all have one thing in common, we have choice. So you can choose what you want to look into and learn about. If native beliefs and culture appeals to you then surround yourself with people who share similar beliefs or who are living it and you can experience it and it would become your day to day life and practices.
  Myself i'm interested in all kinds of beliefs and think there is wisdom and truth in all somewhere... Well, I''m not up to date on all beliefs.. I like peaceful ones.


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Re: lineage [Re: abductee]
    #22180244 - 09/02/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I believe my Great Grandmother was a Gypsy, her family would use my Great Grandfather who was farm to stay the winter and fix things and what not.
My family fought a long William Wallace too some where down the line, and then there's my black side who are from Boston, I dont know much about that side of the family, and I got a few other things mixed in too..lol got me thinking about linage :jah:


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Re: lineage [Re: muckamuck]
    #22181167 - 09/02/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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muckamuck said:
It probably shouldn't matter but I feel ripped off that all the druids are dead. How do I overcome the lack of spiritual traditions available to white people today? My elders are all idiots. No shamans, no artists, no heroes, why can't I go out and find a cow to chase down and kill with my hands? who made everything so boring?




Yeah the Christian State has been persecuting us for a very long time, this is why the Christian State tolerates and give weapons to ISIS, they are the same. I've given up trying to meet others because I just don't function around people, the Heathens I've met all have good jobs, are able to smile and talk. We do have artists, heroes and shamans. I dig Burzum, see you tube channel ThuleanPerspective, but I don't mind The Beatles and The Doors either. Read Knut Hamsun. There is a really great magazine called This England for English culture. If you are intelligent you might like The Odinic Rite. There is stuff going on. The Christian State is rapidly self destructing, it will be replaced by global ISIS, soon mankind will lose all technology and we'll be back to the stone age. Billions will die. There's a book called Enjoy The Decline, I don't agree with everything in it but it is the right idea.

I consider Alan Watts and Ram Dass my elders, also SkaldVargr of course.

The world definitely hates us, so much omission of who we are in this alien culture. I read the skeptics point of views on white genocide, they are very unconvincing, Sweden is obviously organizing the next mass execution of white folks. Nothing lasts forever, everything flows, pass that sword through my guts and I won't blink. Anti white Christian State does of course lie, so many lies have been told for such a long time...



In my opinion Terrence Mckenna is definitely a white shaman, his being a dead white male elevates him to the status of racist and irrelevant too. Any counter culture person listening to him is supporting racism. He mostly sounds very Eurocentric to me.


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Re: lineage [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #22181616 - 09/03/15 02:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Some very interesting info there, thanks for the suggestions. I guess there are shamans etc but like Terence McKenna and Jim Morrison they are mostly dead and considered irrelevant.

It's been a while since I read any fiction so I think I'll see what novels by Hamsun I can find, 'Enjoy the Decline' sounds too much like my current plan.


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Re: lineage [Re: muckamuck]
    #22181896 - 09/03/15 07:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

look into the 400 year old ice age, its coming soon, Canada can deal with the snow, but the food shortage will effect us all.

  to elaborate, approximately every 400 years there's a mini ice age, it has to do with the sun and our climate. The sun's activity has been over all dormant, yes it has been said that a strong solar flare can act as like a massive emp and short circuit all our electronics, but we also need solar flares to help strenghten our magnetic fields.. everything in balance.. that also effects our winds and everything else. .. that's what I vaguely remember about the mini ice age.. that will be an issue for us.. were close or past the 400 year mark, give or take 50 years  or so.


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Re: lineage [Re: abductee]
    #22182036 - 09/03/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Growth of the Soil - Knut Hamsun is the most important one to read.

Meanwhile packs of smart bloodsuckers get richer off of the global warming scam.


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Re: lineage [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #22182122 - 09/03/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Cool, I've been looking for a good read.
Definitely. You take a period of 20 years over the course of the earth and use that data to establish a base line or what have you and say that its getting hotter.. 20 years.. yah that should cover our earths natural cycles.:facepalm3:


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Re: lineage [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #22186368 - 09/04/15 03:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

thanks for posting the video up there


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