|
mollymadman
love each other :)


Registered: 08/12/15
Posts: 456
Last seen: 8 years, 3 months
|
The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out.
#22171664 - 08/31/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
So I've figured out why it seems that MDMA gets more popular every few years. It's a new batch of users getting their first glimpses of the magic. Eventually those people keep using it and it stops working the way it started and it loses it's forward motion. But then a new batch of people start using it and it gains traction again. Right now I think we're in a bit of a dip in popularity, but I can almost guarantee that in like 2 years when new people start doing it again it's gonna boost up again. I see this going on forever. Right now I'm starting to see it losing it's traction with me. I did like 8 caps the other night over the course of like 7 hours and I was barely high. It could have just been shitty m, but it was still pretty good. I think it might be time for a little bit of a break to make it a little less expensive. The crazy thing though is that I still haven't noticed any negative side effects other than tolerance and the occasional flashback where I feel amazing for a few seconds and get flushed with awesomeness.
--------------------
  Finding the answer... Finding that there ain't no answer to find.
|
rackem



Registered: 11/27/09
Posts: 14,024
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: mollymadman] 1
#22171666 - 08/31/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
your high...
keep that buzz goin man.
|
Detached
You know where...


Registered: 02/27/15
Posts: 2,942
Last seen: 10 months, 15 days
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: rackem]
#22171671 - 08/31/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Every year there is a new generation of drug users
|
rackem



Registered: 11/27/09
Posts: 14,024
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Detached]
#22171675 - 08/31/15 10:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
it must be magic..
or that line from that one movie...
|
twighead
mͯó



Registered: 08/27/08
Posts: 29,560
Loc: Glenn Gould's Fuck Windmill
Last seen: 2 hours, 22 minutes
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: mollymadman]
#22171676 - 08/31/15 10:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I donno what you mean about it stopping working 
I've used mdma for about 10 years now and its always magical as fuck every time I take it.
|
mollymadman
love each other :)


Registered: 08/12/15
Posts: 456
Last seen: 8 years, 3 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Detached]
#22171678 - 08/31/15 10:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Every day bro!
--------------------
  Finding the answer... Finding that there ain't no answer to find.
|
mollymadman
love each other :)


Registered: 08/12/15
Posts: 456
Last seen: 8 years, 3 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: twighead]
#22171685 - 08/31/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
twighead said: I donno what you mean about it stopping working 
I've used mdma for about 10 years now and its always magical as fuck every time I take it.
Maybe it's cause I did different stuff. It's gotta be the brown sassy stuff to be top quality. White powders are suspect.
--------------------
  Finding the answer... Finding that there ain't no answer to find.
|
Sheekle
FREE BURKE



Registered: 01/11/10
Posts: 53,153
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: mollymadman]
#22171688 - 08/31/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I hope LSD never loses popularity because it's permanently the best forever
-------------------- "Ur cat died because he hated u" - Koods "I hope JSB kicks your ass one day." - Vandago "you are the biggest 'internet guy' I have ever come across"- Jokeshopbeard "The more I see you post the more I realize you're just this fuckin tie dye loser who trolls the Shroomery 24/7." - Herbologist "Sheekle you cannot vile the dice of bullshit you have posted on this forum over the years, I like databases" - thelastoneleft "or maybe i just come from a blood line of superior intelligence" - trees R.I.P Kelsy, ?/?/?? - 6/11/16
|
mollymadman
love each other :)


Registered: 08/12/15
Posts: 456
Last seen: 8 years, 3 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Sheekle]
#22171692 - 08/31/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
LSD isn't even popular as far as i know. Most mollyheads I know look at me like I'm fucekd and doing the worst drug ever when I tell em i do acid. I just lol at them. MDMA is like one of the most dangerous drugs to abuse.
--------------------
  Finding the answer... Finding that there ain't no answer to find.
|
Cowb0yNeal00



Registered: 06/05/13
Posts: 11,059
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: twighead]
#22171694 - 08/31/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
twighead said: I donno what you mean about it stopping working 
I've used mdma for about 10 years now and its always magical as fuck every time I take it.
how many times have you taken it?
|
Cowb0yNeal00



Registered: 06/05/13
Posts: 11,059
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Sheekle]
#22171699 - 08/31/15 10:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Sheekle said: I hope LSD never loses popularity because it's permanently the best forever
|
Detached
You know where...


Registered: 02/27/15
Posts: 2,942
Last seen: 10 months, 15 days
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Sheekle]
#22171707 - 08/31/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Sheekle said: I hope LSD never loses popularity because it's permanently the best forever
This I can agree with.
|
mollymadman
love each other :)


Registered: 08/12/15
Posts: 456
Last seen: 8 years, 3 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Sheekle]
#22171714 - 08/31/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Sheekle said: I hope LSD never loses popularity because it's permanently the best forever
You guys got it wrong, candy flipping is permanently the best forever 
The lack of comedown with lsd is pretty cool though.
--------------------
  Finding the answer... Finding that there ain't no answer to find.
|
twighead
mͯó



Registered: 08/27/08
Posts: 29,560
Loc: Glenn Gould's Fuck Windmill
Last seen: 2 hours, 22 minutes
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
#22171718 - 08/31/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
myles33 said:
Quote:
twighead said: I donno what you mean about it stopping working 
I've used mdma for about 10 years now and its always magical as fuck every time I take it.
how many times have you taken it?
Uhhm... I'd estimate about 50-75 times
|
Laughingcowwa
Your mum loves it.



Registered: 05/02/15
Posts: 418
Last seen: 7 years, 9 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: twighead]
#22171773 - 08/31/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Fk 8 tabs that's like $400 here in oz would wanna get something out of that. MDMA is not for me though i'll stick with my mushrooms
-------------------- Those who doubt me, suck cock by choice
|
Konyap

Registered: 06/30/07
Posts: 33,945
Loc: Planet Piss
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Laughingcowwa]
#22171784 - 08/31/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I hate white drugs
|
twighead
mͯó



Registered: 08/27/08
Posts: 29,560
Loc: Glenn Gould's Fuck Windmill
Last seen: 2 hours, 22 minutes
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Konyap]
#22171793 - 08/31/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Black drug power!
Wait, isn't heroin and resin like the only black drugs?
|
404
error


Registered: 08/20/10
Posts: 14,539
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: mollymadman]
#22171794 - 08/31/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
depends on the person. my anxiety can increase the day after and i need to sleep alot after i do acid. sometimes i feel like i got hit by a psychedelic freight train right in the brain
|
404
error


Registered: 08/20/10
Posts: 14,539
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: twighead]
#22171799 - 08/31/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
where's the love for the opium?
|
Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy


Registered: 01/26/12
Posts: 11,773
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Last seen: 8 years, 4 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Laughingcowwa]
#22171801 - 08/31/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
MDMA is literally the worst drug to abuse for your brain. I made an MDMA neurotoxicity thread a while back and basically overall MDMA users are more depressed then non users. They also do worse on memory exams and concentration and a ton of things.
MDMA should only be used max like five times a year and even then that is a lot. People doing it every month are retarded cause their serotonin levels are literally lower then what they should be all the time.
I have even argued MDMA is way way worse to abuse then meth because dopamine recovers hella fast and serotonin takes weeks to get back to baseline.
MDMA is great and all, but holy fuck does it lose the magic fast and abuse of it is horrible for your brain. I'd rather someone abuse alcohol because at least when they recover from being an alcoholic their brain is not messed up. If you were to abuse MDMA like you would other drugs you would be straight 
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
|
Lord_DankPot
Baguette 'n Balls


Registered: 07/28/15
Posts: 28
Loc: Zone 6
Last seen: 5 years, 8 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: twighead]
#22171804 - 08/31/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I think because the point of the "trip" is to be in pure "ecstasy"... I stay away.
I use psychedelics to get a different perspective on my over-analyzed reality. I've tripped Lucy and shrooms more times than I can count. But I've never had the URGE to try MDMA. Though, I'm one of those who went to heroin-like lengths to get high off synthetic cannabinoids in the past, so maybe therein lies my suspicion...
Those who say "just gotta give it a shot" or "just try it once" re-affirm my biggest fears of it.
--------------------
[Let's writhe, let me see you trip! One move that'lll keep you wet! Let's fall in a long, sadistic trance. Put the keys in our hands.]
|
Detached
You know where...


Registered: 02/27/15
Posts: 2,942
Last seen: 10 months, 15 days
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Lord_DankPot]
#22171819 - 08/31/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
You really should try MDMA once... it's not meth or crack
|
twighead
mͯó



Registered: 08/27/08
Posts: 29,560
Loc: Glenn Gould's Fuck Windmill
Last seen: 2 hours, 22 minutes
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Lord_DankPot]
#22171827 - 08/31/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Lord_DankPot said: I think because the point of the "trip" is to be in pure "ecstasy"... I stay away.
I use psychedelics to get a different perspective on my over-analyzed reality. I've tripped Lucy and shrooms more times than I can count. But I've never had the URGE to try MDMA. Though, I'm one of those who went to heroin-like lengths to get high off synthetic cannabinoids in the past, so maybe therein lies my suspicion...
Those who say "just gotta give it a shot" or "just try it once" re-affirm my biggest fears of it.
The point (in your case atleast) of MDMA is to forget about over-analyzing shit and just live It's a lot more life changing than any thought you'll ever have.
|
mollymadman
love each other :)


Registered: 08/12/15
Posts: 456
Last seen: 8 years, 3 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22171831 - 08/31/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Bitter Cactus said:

lol i'd marry that woman.
--------------------
  Finding the answer... Finding that there ain't no answer to find.
|
Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy


Registered: 01/26/12
Posts: 11,773
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Last seen: 8 years, 4 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Detached]
#22171839 - 08/31/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Also, don't think for a second that your MDMA use won't catch up to you.
For every moment you feel great on the drug, I guarantee long term there will be far more moments where you feel shitty from it and are recovering.
MDMA does a really good job at one thing. It kills your serotonin axons. You can look that up if you want but it's true.
It is hard on your brain and there are brain cells dying when you take it. Your happy chemicals become few and far in between and some of the damage is permanent just like with methamp.
I truly do believe that dose per dose, MDMA is a way harder drug then meth.
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
|
Detached
You know where...


Registered: 02/27/15
Posts: 2,942
Last seen: 10 months, 15 days
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22171843 - 08/31/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
|
Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy


Registered: 01/26/12
Posts: 11,773
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Last seen: 8 years, 4 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Detached]
#22171861 - 08/31/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
|
mollymadman
love each other :)


Registered: 08/12/15
Posts: 456
Last seen: 8 years, 3 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22171863 - 08/31/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
You're totally entitled to your opinion man. Who know's, maybe you're right?
--------------------
  Finding the answer... Finding that there ain't no answer to find.
|
Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy


Registered: 01/26/12
Posts: 11,773
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Last seen: 8 years, 4 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: mollymadman]
#22171867 - 08/31/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
It's just a shitty drug to abuse and should only be used a few times a year max.
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
|
404
error


Registered: 08/20/10
Posts: 14,539
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Lord_DankPot]
#22171870 - 08/31/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
mdma is definitely worth a look into. empathogens/entactogens in general really. also, i think being in a state of pure extacy can be just as beneficial to the mind if practiced properly and healthily.
|
nicechrisman
Interdimensional space wizard



Registered: 11/07/03
Posts: 33,241
Last seen: 4 years, 6 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: mollymadman]
#22171871 - 08/31/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I only roll a handful of times a year at the most, and usually less than that, and I don't ever binge on it, so it doesn't lose it's magic for me. I really enjoy it in the right setting, but I don't want to mess that up.
-------------------- "Cosmic Love is absolutelely ruthless and highly indifferent: it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not." John C. Lily
|
Detached
You know where...


Registered: 02/27/15
Posts: 2,942
Last seen: 10 months, 15 days
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22171872 - 08/31/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I know MDMA is neurotoxic but I think sometimes you play down the dangers of meth.. 
I know more people that have severe problems with meth than I do with wannabe rave kids and E.
|
Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy


Registered: 01/26/12
Posts: 11,773
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Last seen: 8 years, 4 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Detached] 1
#22171876 - 08/31/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Meth is a fucked up drug. Bad bad bad.
Dude I stopped doing meth and it is fucked up I am not gonna downplay it.
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
|
nicechrisman
Interdimensional space wizard



Registered: 11/07/03
Posts: 33,241
Last seen: 4 years, 6 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Detached] 1
#22171883 - 08/31/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I agree. I've seen people I loved fucked up permanently from meth. They were never the same. I haven't known anyone who has done that from MDMA, but I don't really hang with a crowd that uses it very much either though.
-------------------- "Cosmic Love is absolutelely ruthless and highly indifferent: it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not." John C. Lily
|
Detached
You know where...


Registered: 02/27/15
Posts: 2,942
Last seen: 10 months, 15 days
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: nicechrisman]
#22171887 - 08/31/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Moral of the story is drugs are bad.
Even weed.
|
mollymadman
love each other :)


Registered: 08/12/15
Posts: 456
Last seen: 8 years, 3 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Detached]
#22171896 - 08/31/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|

haha yeah man i guess.
--------------------
  Finding the answer... Finding that there ain't no answer to find.
|
Cowb0yNeal00



Registered: 06/05/13
Posts: 11,059
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Detached]
#22171898 - 08/31/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Detached said: Moral of the story is drugs are bad.
Even weed.
"bad" lol explain…
|
mollymadman
love each other :)


Registered: 08/12/15
Posts: 456
Last seen: 8 years, 3 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: mollymadman]
#22171905 - 08/31/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I just wonder how long it takes to get the magic back. I rekon a good 3 months oughtta do the trick.
--------------------
  Finding the answer... Finding that there ain't no answer to find.
|
OliverJames
Potion Brewer

Registered: 02/28/12
Posts: 3,085
Last seen: 6 years, 3 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22171927 - 08/31/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Bitter Cactus said: Also, don't think for a second that your MDMA use won't catch up to you.
For every moment you feel great on the drug, I guarantee long term there will be far more moments where you feel shitty from it and are recovering.
MDMA does a really good job at one thing. It kills your serotonin axons. You can look that up if you want but it's true.
It is hard on your brain and there are brain cells dying when you take it. Your happy chemicals become few and far in between and some of the damage is permanent just like with methamp.
I truly do believe that dose per dose, MDMA is a way harder drug then meth.
I think MAPS most recent research says otherwise. I agree, abusing the hell out of MDMA is a terrible idea that will definitely leave you with some damage. But I personally don't think taking a 100-120mg dose 2 times a year is gonna cause any serious damage. There is very little research from the past 5 years or so that demonstrate this
|
Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy


Registered: 01/26/12
Posts: 11,773
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Last seen: 8 years, 4 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: OliverJames]
#22171939 - 08/31/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I think each dose does damage, but a few times a year is fine. It's just some of these young bucks think they will last doing it every month.
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
|
nicechrisman
Interdimensional space wizard



Registered: 11/07/03
Posts: 33,241
Last seen: 4 years, 6 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22171943 - 08/31/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Or every week
-------------------- "Cosmic Love is absolutelely ruthless and highly indifferent: it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not." John C. Lily
|
Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy


Registered: 01/26/12
Posts: 11,773
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Last seen: 8 years, 4 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: nicechrisman]
#22171948 - 08/31/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Every week is just gross. I could not function doing that.
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
|
mollymadman
love each other :)


Registered: 08/12/15
Posts: 456
Last seen: 8 years, 3 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22171953 - 08/31/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Man Bittercactus, you're cool and all... but do you really have to derail every mdma thread with your opinion on how bad it is and then eventually end up arguing with someone about it and meth? Cmon dude.
--------------------
  Finding the answer... Finding that there ain't no answer to find.
|
Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy


Registered: 01/26/12
Posts: 11,773
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Last seen: 8 years, 4 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: mollymadman]
#22171961 - 08/31/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
mollymadman said: Man Bittercactus, you're cool and all... but do you really have to derail every mdma thread with your opinion on how bad it is and then eventually end up arguing with someone about it and meth? Cmon dude.
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
|
mollymadman
love each other :)


Registered: 08/12/15
Posts: 456
Last seen: 8 years, 3 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22171968 - 08/31/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
alright... whatever man. Let's all just do the right thing here and mix meth with mdma. Then we all win.
--------------------
  Finding the answer... Finding that there ain't no answer to find.
|
Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy


Registered: 01/26/12
Posts: 11,773
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Last seen: 8 years, 4 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: mollymadman]
#22171978 - 08/31/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
mollymadman said:
alright... whatever man. Let's all just do the right thing here and mix meth with mdma. Then we all win.
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
|
mollymadman
love each other :)


Registered: 08/12/15
Posts: 456
Last seen: 8 years, 3 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22171997 - 08/31/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
--------------------
  Finding the answer... Finding that there ain't no answer to find.
|
nicechrisman
Interdimensional space wizard



Registered: 11/07/03
Posts: 33,241
Last seen: 4 years, 6 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: mollymadman]
#22172009 - 08/31/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
-------------------- "Cosmic Love is absolutelely ruthless and highly indifferent: it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not." John C. Lily
|
mollymadman
love each other :)


Registered: 08/12/15
Posts: 456
Last seen: 8 years, 3 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: nicechrisman]
#22172014 - 08/31/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
oh man, that's terrifying. The dude on the left looks like a pretty chill guy though.
--------------------
  Finding the answer... Finding that there ain't no answer to find.
|
maddad
Stranger

Registered: 11/20/13
Posts: 242
Last seen: 8 years, 3 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22172046 - 08/31/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Bitter Cactus said: Read this if you have time
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_neurotoxicity1.shtml
Last time I checked it was 2015... this article was posted in 2001. There is obviously better information out there, certainly more current than that. I'm not saying its completely safe, or with no side effects, but all drugs have them.
-------------------- I live in an aura of hope because I live in a twilight world of my own self-generated, cannabinated fantasy, and I forget that not everyone is so fortunate. - Terence McKenna
|
Rebelutionsssss
Mdmazing



Registered: 07/23/14
Posts: 13,137
Loc: San Francisco
Last seen: 2 years, 2 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: twighead]
#22172069 - 08/31/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
twighead said: I donno what you mean about it stopping working 
I've used mdma for about 10 years now and its always magical as fuck every time I take it.
Dido
-------------------- : To define is to confine.
|
mollymadman
love each other :)


Registered: 08/12/15
Posts: 456
Last seen: 8 years, 3 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22172090 - 09/01/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
lol to be honest I think I just went a little overboard with it. Or the last batch I had wasn't as good.
--------------------
  Finding the answer... Finding that there ain't no answer to find.
|
topdog82
Death Spirit



Registered: 07/16/10
Posts: 7,992
Loc: California
Last seen: 5 months, 2 days
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: mollymadman]
#22172111 - 09/01/15 12:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Surprisingly, I will have to agree with BC here. I mean MDMA I sometimes felt a whole week to recover from. What drug keeps you foggy/depressed for a week?
That to me is a sign that it can't be "healthy" for your brain
I think it is incredibly neurotoxic, and kids who I know have taken MDMA weekly for a consistent period have a lot of depression, anxiety, and communication issues at times
I DO think that MDMA is incredibly powerful when used occasionally, and that in a therapeutic setting it could even help serious mental disorders. But overall, I don't think it is a good idea, at least in the context people use it
Like I said, internalize my question: "What drug has you feeling burnt out for a week?"
Not coke, alc, even heavy shrooms trips, lsd trips, heroin, xanax or even meth.
All of the above in my limited knowledge/understanding have a recovery time of a day MAX. Even BC has anecdotally said that MDMA has a worse recovery time than meth. To me, these are all golden signs it is wayyy overused/abused
The solution would be 5htp, ltyrosine, reduced dosing, and a cleaner product
|
ThatKidWithTheFace
R.I.P. ZIG R.I.P. Sloth


Registered: 09/30/12
Posts: 11,904
Loc: All Good in Allgood
Last seen: 6 years, 10 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22172135 - 09/01/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Bitter Cactus said: For every moment you feel great on the drug, I guarantee there will be far more moments where you feel shitty from it
This pretty much sums up my experience with every drug.
-------------------- Check Out My Beats SoundCloud
[quote]Sheekle said: [quote]ThatKidWithTheFace said: Is this the same aunt that fucks dogs?[/quote] u bet ur ass it is.[/quote]
|
Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy



Registered: 01/26/12
Posts: 11,773
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Last seen: 8 years, 4 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: topdog82]
#22172174 - 09/01/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
topdog82 said: Surprisingly, I will have to agree with BC here. I mean MDMA I sometimes felt a whole week to recover from. What drug keeps you foggy/depressed for a week?
That to me is a sign that it can't be "healthy" for your brain
I think it is incredibly neurotoxic, and kids who I know have taken MDMA weekly for a consistent period have a lot of depression, anxiety, and communication issues at times
I DO think that MDMA is incredibly powerful when used occasionally, and that in a therapeutic setting it could even help serious mental disorders. But overall, I don't think it is a good idea, at least in the context people use it
Like I said, internalize my question: "What drug has you feeling burnt out for a week?"
Not coke, alc, even heavy shrooms trips, lsd trips, heroin, xanax or even meth.
All of the above in my limited knowledge/understanding have a recovery time of a day MAX. Even BC has anecdotally said that MDMA has a worse recovery time than meth. To me, these are all golden signs it is wayyy overused/abused
The solution would be 5htp, ltyrosine, reduced dosing, and a cleaner product
I used to do five or six day meth binges and when I finally went to sleep and woke up I just slept for a good 24 hours but once I woke up I usually felt normal, just tired and worn out.
MDMA, the day after just one dose, I feel super depressed and completely off and out of it. The crash from one dose of MDMA in my experience has always been worse then long binges of meth.
I do think that it takes at least two weeks to get back to normal levels of serotonin after one dose of MDMA. Your dopamine recovers much much faster then serotonin too.
I am not advocating for meth though, it is way worse cause you get addicted hardcore and things spin out of control very quickly. However, I believe if one were to abuse MDMA the way a person abuses meth they would literally be fully fried and have no memory and be barely able to read a full sentence and remember it.
I do believe each dose of MDMA does a heavy amount of shit to your brain. I do think that it is by far the drug that does the most neurotoxic damage to your brain. No other drug manages to make me feel braindead and depressed for weeks after just one dose like a good ole dose of MDMA dose.
By the way though, my MDMA dealer from awhile back actually had to get prescribed SSRI's because he was insanely depressed all the time from using MDMA. This is actually a common occurance with MDMA users.
In my experience when I used MDMA I felt less happy, less able to concentrate and remember things, I felt anxious, my overall head space felt dumbed down and the only time I felt better then before I took it was when I was actually rolling.
Use MDMA a few times a year max. These kids that do it every week are just so dumb I am sorry but seriously it is not a weekend warrior drug at all.
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
|
twighead
mͯó



Registered: 08/27/08
Posts: 29,560
Loc: Glenn Gould's Fuck Windmill
Last seen: 2 hours, 22 minutes
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: mollymadman] 1
#22172433 - 09/01/15 03:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
mollymadman said: oh man, that's terrifying. The dude on the left looks like a pretty chill guy though.
That's coaster
|
topdog82
Death Spirit



Registered: 07/16/10
Posts: 7,992
Loc: California
Last seen: 5 months, 2 days
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22173586 - 09/01/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Bitter Cactus said:
Quote:
topdog82 said: Surprisingly, I will have to agree with BC here. I mean MDMA I sometimes felt a whole week to recover from. What drug keeps you foggy/depressed for a week?
That to me is a sign that it can't be "healthy" for your brain
I think it is incredibly neurotoxic, and kids who I know have taken MDMA weekly for a consistent period have a lot of depression, anxiety, and communication issues at times
I DO think that MDMA is incredibly powerful when used occasionally, and that in a therapeutic setting it could even help serious mental disorders. But overall, I don't think it is a good idea, at least in the context people use it
Like I said, internalize my question: "What drug has you feeling burnt out for a week?"
Not coke, alc, even heavy shrooms trips, lsd trips, heroin, xanax or even meth.
All of the above in my limited knowledge/understanding have a recovery time of a day MAX. Even BC has anecdotally said that MDMA has a worse recovery time than meth. To me, these are all golden signs it is wayyy overused/abused
The solution would be 5htp, ltyrosine, reduced dosing, and a cleaner product
I used to do five or six day meth binges and when I finally went to sleep and woke up I just slept for a good 24 hours but once I woke up I usually felt normal, just tired and worn out.
MDMA, the day after just one dose, I feel super depressed and completely off and out of it. The crash from one dose of MDMA in my experience has always been worse then long binges of meth.
I do think that it takes at least two weeks to get back to normal levels of serotonin after one dose of MDMA. Your dopamine recovers much much faster then serotonin too.
I am not advocating for meth though, it is way worse cause you get addicted hardcore and things spin out of control very quickly. However, I believe if one were to abuse MDMA the way a person abuses meth they would literally be fully fried and have no memory and be barely able to read a full sentence and remember it.
I do believe each dose of MDMA does a heavy amount of shit to your brain. I do think that it is by far the drug that does the most neurotoxic damage to your brain. No other drug manages to make me feel braindead and depressed for weeks after just one dose like a good ole dose of MDMA dose.
By the way though, my MDMA dealer from awhile back actually had to get prescribed SSRI's because he was insanely depressed all the time from using MDMA. This is actually a common occurance with MDMA users.
In my experience when I used MDMA I felt less happy, less able to concentrate and remember things, I felt anxious, my overall head space felt dumbed down and the only time I felt better then before I took it was when I was actually rolling.
Use MDMA a few times a year max. These kids that do it every week are just so dumb I am sorry but seriously it is not a weekend warrior drug at all.
your post summed up my beliefs entirely. I think it has some deep insights and provides a psychedelic experience. But your post was overall well-written and fairly accurate
I figure a lot of people are in a denial. But like I said, once or twice a year won't kill you
|
Mental Taco



Registered: 07/02/14
Posts: 2,290
Loc: Hell
Last seen: 6 years, 8 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: topdog82]
#22173604 - 09/01/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I know alotta of people nowadays who are suspicious of mdma in molly form (powder) because its more than likely cut or entirely and rc.
Ive only had damn good sass (that felt like sass anyway) and handfull of times.
Mostly the shit thats around has a super speedy edge to it. Idk what it is so i wont fuck with it.
-------------------- Did you not know that the royal hunting grounds are always forbidden?
|
Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy



Registered: 01/26/12
Posts: 11,773
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Last seen: 8 years, 4 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Mental Taco]
#22173612 - 09/01/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Yep the sketchy thing with MDMA is often times you are not even taking just MDMA or there might not be MDMA in it at all.
It really is playing russian roulette and people here in Canada died left and right in British Columbia from the PMMA I believe.
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
|
Rebelutionsssss
Mdmazing



Registered: 07/23/14
Posts: 13,137
Loc: San Francisco
Last seen: 2 years, 2 months
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus] 1
#22173670 - 09/01/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
That's the sketchy thing about not testing your MDMA or getting it from a unknown source
-------------------- : To define is to confine.
|
404
error


Registered: 08/20/10
Posts: 14,539
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22173675 - 09/01/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
that's why there's so many test kits out on the market today dude. get a marquis and you wont be eating stuff you know nothing about.
i have a rock sitting next to me that is methylone... it looks EXACTLY like brown mdma moonrock. this may come as a surprise, but you can't tell what something is just by looking at it.
|
topdog82
Death Spirit



Registered: 07/16/10
Posts: 7,992
Loc: California
Last seen: 5 months, 2 days
|
Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: 404]
#22173782 - 09/01/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
404 said: that's why there's so many test kits out on the market today dude. get a marquis and you wont be eating stuff you know nothing about.
i have a rock sitting next to me that is methylone... it looks EXACTLY like brown mdma moonrock. this may come as a surprise, but you can't tell what something is just by looking at it.

People dont understand this
"The guy I bought it from said it was really good" Yeah man. It's not like he would profit from it?
Kids these days...
|
|