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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22171943 - 08/31/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Or every week
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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: nicechrisman]
#22171948 - 08/31/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Every week is just gross. I could not function doing that.
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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22171953 - 08/31/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Man Bittercactus, you're cool and all... but do you really have to derail every mdma thread with your opinion on how bad it is and then eventually end up arguing with someone about it and meth? Cmon dude.
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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: mollymadman]
#22171961 - 08/31/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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mollymadman said: Man Bittercactus, you're cool and all... but do you really have to derail every mdma thread with your opinion on how bad it is and then eventually end up arguing with someone about it and meth? Cmon dude.
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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22171968 - 08/31/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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alright... whatever man. Let's all just do the right thing here and mix meth with mdma. Then we all win.
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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: mollymadman]
#22171978 - 08/31/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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alright... whatever man. Let's all just do the right thing here and mix meth with mdma. Then we all win.
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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22171997 - 08/31/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: mollymadman]
#22172009 - 08/31/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: nicechrisman]
#22172014 - 08/31/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh man, that's terrifying. The dude on the left looks like a pretty chill guy though.
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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22172046 - 08/31/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Read this if you have time
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_neurotoxicity1.shtml
Last time I checked it was 2015... this article was posted in 2001. There is obviously better information out there, certainly more current than that. I'm not saying its completely safe, or with no side effects, but all drugs have them.
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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: twighead]
#22172069 - 08/31/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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twighead said: I donno what you mean about it stopping working 
I've used mdma for about 10 years now and its always magical as fuck every time I take it.
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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22172090 - 09/01/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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lol to be honest I think I just went a little overboard with it. Or the last batch I had wasn't as good.
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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: mollymadman]
#22172111 - 09/01/15 12:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Surprisingly, I will have to agree with BC here. I mean MDMA I sometimes felt a whole week to recover from. What drug keeps you foggy/depressed for a week?
That to me is a sign that it can't be "healthy" for your brain
I think it is incredibly neurotoxic, and kids who I know have taken MDMA weekly for a consistent period have a lot of depression, anxiety, and communication issues at times
I DO think that MDMA is incredibly powerful when used occasionally, and that in a therapeutic setting it could even help serious mental disorders. But overall, I don't think it is a good idea, at least in the context people use it
Like I said, internalize my question: "What drug has you feeling burnt out for a week?"
Not coke, alc, even heavy shrooms trips, lsd trips, heroin, xanax or even meth.
All of the above in my limited knowledge/understanding have a recovery time of a day MAX. Even BC has anecdotally said that MDMA has a worse recovery time than meth. To me, these are all golden signs it is wayyy overused/abused
The solution would be 5htp, ltyrosine, reduced dosing, and a cleaner product
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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22172135 - 09/01/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: For every moment you feel great on the drug, I guarantee there will be far more moments where you feel shitty from it
This pretty much sums up my experience with every drug.
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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: topdog82]
#22172174 - 09/01/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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topdog82 said: Surprisingly, I will have to agree with BC here. I mean MDMA I sometimes felt a whole week to recover from. What drug keeps you foggy/depressed for a week?
That to me is a sign that it can't be "healthy" for your brain
I think it is incredibly neurotoxic, and kids who I know have taken MDMA weekly for a consistent period have a lot of depression, anxiety, and communication issues at times
I DO think that MDMA is incredibly powerful when used occasionally, and that in a therapeutic setting it could even help serious mental disorders. But overall, I don't think it is a good idea, at least in the context people use it
Like I said, internalize my question: "What drug has you feeling burnt out for a week?"
Not coke, alc, even heavy shrooms trips, lsd trips, heroin, xanax or even meth.
All of the above in my limited knowledge/understanding have a recovery time of a day MAX. Even BC has anecdotally said that MDMA has a worse recovery time than meth. To me, these are all golden signs it is wayyy overused/abused
The solution would be 5htp, ltyrosine, reduced dosing, and a cleaner product
I used to do five or six day meth binges and when I finally went to sleep and woke up I just slept for a good 24 hours but once I woke up I usually felt normal, just tired and worn out.
MDMA, the day after just one dose, I feel super depressed and completely off and out of it. The crash from one dose of MDMA in my experience has always been worse then long binges of meth.
I do think that it takes at least two weeks to get back to normal levels of serotonin after one dose of MDMA. Your dopamine recovers much much faster then serotonin too.
I am not advocating for meth though, it is way worse cause you get addicted hardcore and things spin out of control very quickly. However, I believe if one were to abuse MDMA the way a person abuses meth they would literally be fully fried and have no memory and be barely able to read a full sentence and remember it.
I do believe each dose of MDMA does a heavy amount of shit to your brain. I do think that it is by far the drug that does the most neurotoxic damage to your brain. No other drug manages to make me feel braindead and depressed for weeks after just one dose like a good ole dose of MDMA dose.
By the way though, my MDMA dealer from awhile back actually had to get prescribed SSRI's because he was insanely depressed all the time from using MDMA. This is actually a common occurance with MDMA users.
In my experience when I used MDMA I felt less happy, less able to concentrate and remember things, I felt anxious, my overall head space felt dumbed down and the only time I felt better then before I took it was when I was actually rolling.
Use MDMA a few times a year max. These kids that do it every week are just so dumb I am sorry but seriously it is not a weekend warrior drug at all.
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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: mollymadman] 1
#22172433 - 09/01/15 03:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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mollymadman said: oh man, that's terrifying. The dude on the left looks like a pretty chill guy though.
That's coaster
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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22173586 - 09/01/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said:
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topdog82 said: Surprisingly, I will have to agree with BC here. I mean MDMA I sometimes felt a whole week to recover from. What drug keeps you foggy/depressed for a week?
That to me is a sign that it can't be "healthy" for your brain
I think it is incredibly neurotoxic, and kids who I know have taken MDMA weekly for a consistent period have a lot of depression, anxiety, and communication issues at times
I DO think that MDMA is incredibly powerful when used occasionally, and that in a therapeutic setting it could even help serious mental disorders. But overall, I don't think it is a good idea, at least in the context people use it
Like I said, internalize my question: "What drug has you feeling burnt out for a week?"
Not coke, alc, even heavy shrooms trips, lsd trips, heroin, xanax or even meth.
All of the above in my limited knowledge/understanding have a recovery time of a day MAX. Even BC has anecdotally said that MDMA has a worse recovery time than meth. To me, these are all golden signs it is wayyy overused/abused
The solution would be 5htp, ltyrosine, reduced dosing, and a cleaner product
I used to do five or six day meth binges and when I finally went to sleep and woke up I just slept for a good 24 hours but once I woke up I usually felt normal, just tired and worn out.
MDMA, the day after just one dose, I feel super depressed and completely off and out of it. The crash from one dose of MDMA in my experience has always been worse then long binges of meth.
I do think that it takes at least two weeks to get back to normal levels of serotonin after one dose of MDMA. Your dopamine recovers much much faster then serotonin too.
I am not advocating for meth though, it is way worse cause you get addicted hardcore and things spin out of control very quickly. However, I believe if one were to abuse MDMA the way a person abuses meth they would literally be fully fried and have no memory and be barely able to read a full sentence and remember it.
I do believe each dose of MDMA does a heavy amount of shit to your brain. I do think that it is by far the drug that does the most neurotoxic damage to your brain. No other drug manages to make me feel braindead and depressed for weeks after just one dose like a good ole dose of MDMA dose.
By the way though, my MDMA dealer from awhile back actually had to get prescribed SSRI's because he was insanely depressed all the time from using MDMA. This is actually a common occurance with MDMA users.
In my experience when I used MDMA I felt less happy, less able to concentrate and remember things, I felt anxious, my overall head space felt dumbed down and the only time I felt better then before I took it was when I was actually rolling.
Use MDMA a few times a year max. These kids that do it every week are just so dumb I am sorry but seriously it is not a weekend warrior drug at all.
your post summed up my beliefs entirely. I think it has some deep insights and provides a psychedelic experience. But your post was overall well-written and fairly accurate
I figure a lot of people are in a denial. But like I said, once or twice a year won't kill you
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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: topdog82]
#22173604 - 09/01/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I know alotta of people nowadays who are suspicious of mdma in molly form (powder) because its more than likely cut or entirely and rc.
Ive only had damn good sass (that felt like sass anyway) and handfull of times.
Mostly the shit thats around has a super speedy edge to it. Idk what it is so i wont fuck with it.
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Re: The ebbs and flows of MDMA popularity, i've figured it out. [Re: Mental Taco]
#22173612 - 09/01/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yep the sketchy thing with MDMA is often times you are not even taking just MDMA or there might not be MDMA in it at all.
It really is playing russian roulette and people here in Canada died left and right in British Columbia from the PMMA I believe.
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#22173670 - 09/01/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's the sketchy thing about not testing your MDMA or getting it from a unknown source
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