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Offlineanticon217
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Bad Weed Trip the Day After 1st Shroom Trip
    #22171167 - 08/31/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So I took my very first shroom trip Saturday. Probably had the best night of my life. I tried making a tea, but didn't feel shit. So I ate the leftover shrooms that were in the coffee filter. I had almost 3 grams. Some feelings I had on shrooms:

- Didn't have any visuals
- Didn't feel any nausea
- Couldn't stop smiling. Felt the most joy I've ever felt. I felt like having sex with the hottest woman in the world wouldn't be better. In fact I would have turned it down.
- Felt like all I needed was ME to be the happiest I could ever be. No amount of food, sex, external objects could ever compare.
- Music and everything around me gave me crazy joyous energy.

Fast forward to 24 hours later. I take 2 giant hits out of my vape pen of some Trainwreck. I am a fairly regular smoker (5-7 times/week). After my second hit, I'm absolutely fucked. Keep in mind I never usually lose my train of thought, no matter how much weed I smoke. Some effects when I smoked :

- Instantly started to feel the room spin slightly
- Nausious

Went straight to my bed. Started having fucked thoughts.

- Started thinking about my death. I wasn't thinking I was going to die, but I was thinking of my death somewhere down the line and I was terrified. I was just hoping it wouldn't come now.
- Started thinking one of my arteries may possibly clog, led to more paranoia.
- I saw open and closed eye visuals. ( never saw visuals on weed before). Saw some small black and white stairs appearing in my room in mid air.
- Heard random noises and music that weren't there.
- Started thinking I was going to kill myself. Now in no way was I close to killing myself. But I was terrified that I was even having those thoughts. And that the weed MIGHT lead me to do it eventually. Couldn't get this out of my head for 10 minutes, which felt like an eternity. Scared the crap out of me.
- Towards the end of my bad trip, I felt like I would never return to normal. I thought I would be like this forever, which led to more paranoia.

Has this ever happened to anyone? Does anyone know of a scientific explanation of what was happening to me? As of now I'm scared to smoke weed again. The weed "trip" was stronger then the shroom trip so to speak. In the sense that I was more lost during the weed trip, whereas I felt WAYY better during the shroom trip, but more aware.


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Re: Bad Weed Trip the Day After 1st Shroom Trip [Re: anticon217]
    #22171246 - 08/31/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, of course this has happened to other people. What you were experiencing were symptoms of ego loss. You were approaching the transcendent state, but you feared it, so the experience became negative.

If you wanted to have a positive experience, you should have surrendered yourself to death and then you would have died and been reborn.

Read the psychedelic experience by leary, alpert and metzer. It explains all this in great detail and gives you a method to navigate through it.

http://deoxy.org/psyexp.htm

Basically the shrooms opened your mind so that the weed could hit you harder, but many people aren't comfortable with being this high on weed and become frightened. Its actually nothing to be afraid of.


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Re: Bad Weed Trip the Day After 1st Shroom Trip [Re: Deviate]
    #22171441 - 08/31/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

What you got was weed od. The same thing happened to me when I smoked some sativa star after not having smoked in over 25 years. I had no clue how strong modern weed was and I had one of the worst highs of my life with out of control closed eye and auditory shit from hell. This is why I don't smoke anymore.


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Re: Bad Weed Trip the Day After 1st Shroom Trip [Re: blackbreastedred] * 1
    #22171449 - 08/31/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yo dude weed is a mild psychedelic lol I've tripped out on weed by itself but the day after a mushroom trip you could still have some leftover magic and weed activates again.


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Re: Bad Weed Trip the Day After 1st Shroom Trip [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22171512 - 08/31/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It seems like weed and shrooms don't mix imo. Even one day after the trip you could be experiencing mild psychedelic effects.


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Re: Bad Weed Trip the Day After 1st Shroom Trip [Re: Ihateyou]
    #22171723 - 08/31/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I smoked weed every day for 6 years, the longest break was 2 weeks in that time. I took a year and half break. Started taking shrooms a decent amount before that. I had 2 oz of decent cubes. 1/8 trip was nice, i must of gotten 8-9 good trips out of the cubes. These were 5-7G on the most part.

I did notice, that i would get CEVs when trying to go to bed, I do remember a little bit of them here or there in the past, but these are almost every night right before i go fall asleep.

Sometimes they are real vivid, sometimes its just lights moving in different directions, hard to describe, almost like the northern lights, but in a white light.

I have been smoking every day for about 9 months now, have went through 10 oz of weed, so roughly 7G of high grade weed a week.


Edited by LSDollar (08/31/15 10:35 PM)


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Re: Bad Weed Trip the Day After 1st Shroom Trip [Re: Ihateyou]
    #22172056 - 08/31/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Ihateyou said:
It seems like weed and shrooms don't mix imo. Even one day after the trip you could be experiencing mild psychedelic effects.



They don't for some people.

Some love it. I go through phases... I've had trips on mushrooms where I smoked constantly and did fine, but other times a bong rip sets me off and I get anxiety. Usually I don't get panic attacks on psychedelics though, thank god. Oddly enough it seems there is a weird anti-anxiety effect with psychedelics in their own weird way, but don't quote me on that :lol: It's just that I have had terrible panic attacks while stoned or stone sober, or drunk for that matter, but the worst I've had while tripping have been brief moments of anxiety that I'm usually able to stabilize pretty easily.

Personally, I do better smoking weed on acid than on mushrooms. I get much too anxious on mushrooms with weed in the mix. On acid I will smoke like a chimney, usually after the peak has started to roll back a bit. I'd avoid smoking during the come-up and peak if it gives you anxiety, this is the worst time to smoke.

I've long been well aware that smoking pot after a trip brings it back a bit. After tripping, be prepared to become super-sensitive to pot. You need even less than usual, and it will be slightly psychedelic, so be prepared for that. Smoking a bongrip before I hop on the freeway to go to work is no big deal usually, I do it every day. But after an acid trip, bad idea... I do think too that this is the time I'm most prone to experiencing the dreaded pot-induced anxiety attack - after coming down from a psychedelic. So I'll smoke extra small snaps when there is even the slightest hint of any psychedelic feelings lingering, like 1/3 of what I'd normally smoke.

It's nice to have some benzos around as an escape plan in case something like this happens - because a panic attack from smoking weed is terrifying no matter how many times it's happened to you. Etizolam is my security blanket during and after tripping. I don't take it unless I feel I need to, which is usually after I've been up for 24 hours, am coming down from LSD, and need sleep but can't quiet my mind. And you never know, those things could be a total life saver (well maybe not literally), if you go into a panic attack. It really sucks trying to ride out the feeling that you are dying. I've been there.


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Re: Bad Weed Trip the Day After 1st Shroom Trip [Re: drr]
    #22172084 - 08/31/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't really smoke that much anymore because I was getting really bad anxiety like that and a good amount of confusion. Once you start smoking everyday the high is just amazing and relaxing but take a few weeks break and smoke some oil and I'm fucked up beyond belief. I'm sticking more towards drinking and LSD :shrug:


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Re: Bad Weed Trip the Day After 1st Shroom Trip [Re: Deviate]
    #22174656 - 09/01/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Deviate said:
Yes, of course this has happened to other people. What you were experiencing were symptoms of ego loss. You were approaching the transcendent state, but you feared it, so the experience became negative.

If you wanted to have a positive experience, you should have surrendered yourself to death and then you would have died and been reborn.

Read the psychedelic experience by leary, alpert and metzer. It explains all this in great detail and gives you a method to navigate through it.

http://deoxy.org/psyexp.htm

Basically the shrooms opened your mind so that the weed could hit you harder, but many people aren't comfortable with being this high on weed and become frightened. Its actually nothing to be afraid of.




Thanks man. Interesting stuff. I'm about halfway through it. I have studied lots of eastern philosophy stuff, and I meditate pretty frequently.

I went into the shroom trip with the mindset that I'm goint to surrender to anything like that. And I would tell people the same thing when they would get paranoid with weed. With this weed trip I feel like I did in fact surrender to the feelings of death. But with the nausea I really wasn't able to in the moment. I just remember really feeling like I didn't want to throw up.


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Re: Bad Weed Trip the Day After 1st Shroom Trip [Re: anticon217]
    #22175275 - 09/01/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Oh, well we call that greening out. It's like all of a sudden your body feels as though its had too much weed and you get nausea, really uncomfortable, some people feel faint and it can trigger panic attacks.

I dont really know why that happens, its unpleasant but Ive never heard of someone die from it. Just smoke less weed and try to get some that is not insanely potent (which I know can be difficult to do these days).


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