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One or two cherry pits can kill you!!
    #22169939 - 08/31/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If you eat one or two ground up cherry pits it can kill you?!?!?!?! WTF!!!

I just learned this.

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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: Sheekle]
    #22169944 - 08/31/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: Zombi3]
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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: fapjack] * 2
    #22170019 - 08/31/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Apple seeds also contain the toxin that breaks down into cyanide.

However the concentraion is so low you would have to eat several cups of apple seeds for a lethal dose. Im guessing the same goes with cherry pits. One or two pits will not kill you i have eaten more than a dozen at once believe it or not i am no super man...


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: Mental Taco]
    #22170030 - 08/31/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Apple seeds also contain the toxin that breaks down into cyanide.

However the concentraion is so low you would have to eat several cups of apple seeds for a lethal dose. Im guessing the same goes with cherry pits. One or two pits will not kill you i have eaten more than a dozen at once believe it or not i am no super man...



well apparently it's 30 G's of cherry pits but they're pretty hard nd condensed i'd think it would be 1 or 2 idk it seemed semi-reliable as the source


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: fapjack]
    #22170049 - 08/31/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Oh yes the cyanide thing. I've heard the same thing for Apple seeds. From what I remember looking into this while I was in horticulture school, you're far more likely to die from choking on fruit seeds than you are from being poisoned by them. And a cursory Google search just now says the same about cherry seeds.


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: Sheekle]
    #22170051 - 08/31/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm pretty sure it'd take more than two ground up cherry pits to kill an adult. I could be wrong but I was under the impression that you'd need much more than that.

How much Cyanide does a cherry pit containe?


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: damnnation]
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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: Sheekle]
    #22170071 - 08/31/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

errr I'm too high and tired to look it up but if a youtube video says so then I guess it's true.:shrug:


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: Sheekle]
    #22170084 - 08/31/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I just learned something too Sheekle, thanks:

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in a molecule to molecule fight, nicotine is six times more toxic than HCN [Hydrogen Cyanide] on the molecular level




from here: http://www.artofdrink.com/archive/research/cyanide-in-apricot-cherries-pits/


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: damnnation]
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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: damnnation]
    #22170129 - 08/31/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Its a good read.

Apparently, cherry seeds have about 0.8 mg HCN (hydrogen cyanide) per gram of seed, and itt takes about 30mg of HCN to get to the lethal range of killing a person (according to the artofdrink article).

So, do the math, its like 30 cherry seeds to almost kill a person.


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    #22170141 - 08/31/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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    #22170157 - 08/31/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22170176 - 08/31/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

if you wree ever trapped in prison and wanted to die collect apple seeds. i bet they dont even thionk about this shit


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22170183 - 08/31/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I just learned something too Sheekle, thanks:

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in a molecule to molecule fight, nicotine is six times more toxic than HCN [Hydrogen Cyanide] on the molecular level




from here: http://www.artofdrink.com/archive/research/cyanide-in-apricot-cherries-pits/




1 mole HCN is only 27 grams 1 mole of nicotine is 162.23 grams so it is actually less toxic than hydrogen cyanide.


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    #22170217 - 08/31/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

True, thats why they stated "molecule to molecule fight" cause its not by weight, but by individual molecule vs individual molecule.


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22170224 - 08/31/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

now i know why i never liked cherries. THEYRE FLAVORED WITH CYANIDE  :crankey:


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    #22170234 - 08/31/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Cyanoglycosides are found in a all your pitted fruits. Cherries, apricot, peach, plum. However,these seeds have been designed by evolution to pass through an animals digestive tract unscathed so that the animal will shit out the seed and propagate the plant.

In the case of almonds and cherries, the glycoside uses cynaide to link glucose with benzaldehyde. Glucose is what give a cherry its sweetness and benzaldehyde is what gives cherries their smell and taste. Oh fun fact.: almond and cherry flavors are the same.


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: Adolin]
    #22170250 - 08/31/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's fine if you happen to swallow them, but if you chew them up they could kill you.


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22170255 - 08/31/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Its a good read.

Apparently, cherry seeds have about 0.8 mg HCN (hydrogen cyanide) per gram of seed, and itt takes about 30mg of HCN to get to the lethal range of killing a person (according to the artofdrink article).

So, do the math, its like 30 cherry seeds to almost kill a person.



pretty sure the seeds are more than a gram each


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: koods]
    #22170299 - 08/31/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Cyanoglycosides are found in a all your pitted fruits. Cherries, apricot, peach, plum. However,these seeds have been designed by evolution to pass through an animals digestive tract unscathed so that the animal will shit out the seed and propagate the plant.

In the case of almonds and cherries, the glycoside uses cynaide to link glucose with benzaldehyde. Glucose is what give a cherry its sweetness and benzaldehyde is what gives cherries their smell and taste. Oh fun fact.: almond and cherry flavors are the same.




Do most plants have an enzyme to break it all up before it makes its way to their mitochondria?


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: fapjack]
    #22170869 - 08/31/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Plants aren't affected by cyanide. They don't have hemoglobin


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: Sheekle]
    #22170953 - 08/31/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Bust out that miligram scale u got and lets start weighing.

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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22171109 - 08/31/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think its only becomes dangerous if you were to accidentally extract it somehow. Like maybe filling a gallon jug with cherries that have pits and then filling the bottle with vodka?


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #22171139 - 08/31/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

u have to crush it for it to work i believe but eating them whole doesnt do anythin


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    #22171284 - 08/31/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Amygdalin actually is an effective control for cancer. The cyanide is said to not be released unless it contacts an enzyme only in cancer cells, which it then kills.  See big pharma fraud and cover up of this in the documentary, Second Opinion, Fraud at Sloan Kettering <- something like that. 

Health effects are evident. Nitrilosides are also said to contain a vitamin b15 which is debated. My cardio health has improved among other things.


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: syncro]
    #22171334 - 08/31/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

a lot of foods are toxic to the body, we just can't feel it or don't notice it.


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    #22171336 - 08/31/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: koods]
    #22172673 - 09/01/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Plants aren't affected by cyanide. They don't have hemoglobin



But they do have a mitochondria which is where I thought cyanide's inhibition happened.  Also cyanide is used as an insecticide and insects don't have hemoglobin.  It affects cellular respiration which plants, and animals do.


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    #22172838 - 09/01/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Amygdalin actually is an effective control for cancer. The cyanide is said to not be released unless it contacts an enzyme only in cancer cells, which it then kills.  See big pharma fraud and cover up of this in the documentary, Second Opinion, Fraud at Sloan Kettering <- something like that. 

I chew and eat about 20 apricot seeds a day and health effects are evident. Nitrilosides are also said to contain a vitamin b15 which is debated. My cardio health has improved among other things.



Riiiight.  It was a cover up.

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    #22173286 - 09/01/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Plants aren't affected by cyanide. They don't have hemoglobin



But they do have a mitochondria which is where I thought cyanide's inhibition happened.  Also cyanide is used as an insecticide and insects don't have hemoglobin.  It affects cellular respiration which plants, and animals do.



Cyanide blocks oxygen transport. Plants don't breathe oxygen.


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: koods]
    #22173327 - 09/01/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Plants need to transport oxygen from the chloroplast to the mitochondria. They don't make all their o2 through photosynthesis either as that only works during the day, cellular respiration happens all the time.




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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: fapjack]
    #22173427 - 09/01/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So if cherry pit's have hydrogen cyanide couldn't one obtain sodium cyanide by doing an STB extraction on crushed cherry seeds using dimethylformanide and sodium hydroxide as a base?

Actually maybe dmf wouldn't work, it's miscible with water


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    #22173461 - 09/01/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You could just use water and NAOH.  It is a weak acid so HCN+NAOH->NaCN+H2O


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    #22173902 - 09/01/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know dude cyanide isn't toxic to plants.


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: koods]
    #22173907 - 09/01/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

wait so if plants use sugar, what happens if you put sugar in the potting soil, will they grow really big, or do you have to inject it into their stems via IV?


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    #22173965 - 09/01/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Plants need to transport oxygen from the chloroplast to the mitochondria. They don't make all their o2 through photosynthesis either as that only works during the day, cellular respiration happens all the time.







Chlorophyll is the plants equivalent to hemoglobin. I think the cyanide binds to iron, not magnessium





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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: makaveli8x8] * 1
    #22173991 - 09/01/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I found a link about CN toxicity in plants. Apparently it is pretty toxic to some plants, but it varies widely by species. Fapjack is right about it interfering with ATP production. Here's aquote from the wiki:

"he cyanide anion is an inhibitor of the enzyme cytochrome c oxidase (also known as aa3) in the fourth complex of the electron transport chain (found in the membrane of the mitochondria of eukaryotic cells)"


http://www.ehow.com/info_11373550_cyanide-effects-plants.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanide#Toxicity


It might also bind to hemoglobin, but I guess it binds to cytochrome c oxidase better or more detrimentally or something. Apparently one of the antidotes for CN poisoning is oxygen administration, so hemoglobin must still work to some extent.


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #22174308 - 09/01/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Cherry seeds contain cyanide. So do apple seeds. Actually, quite a lot of seeds contain cyanide. Usually it's the almond taste that will tell you they contain traces of cyanide.


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: Oggy]
    #22174399 - 09/01/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

he average cherry weighs 3 to 7 grams. The pit weight is only about 6% of the total weight of a cherry.

so each pit is between .18 and .42 grams.  there is .8mg of cyanide per gram. so .8mg per 2-5 pits. so about 75-187 pits to reach 30mg.

your gut would hurt from eating 75+ cherries and pits way before you would get poisoned. that a lot of hard dense pit.


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Re: One or two cherry pits can kill you!! [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #22175540 - 09/01/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Midnight_Toker said:
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syncro said:
Amygdalin actually is an effective control for cancer. The cyanide is said to not be released unless it contacts an enzyme only in cancer cells, which it then kills.  See big pharma fraud and cover up of this in the documentary, Second Opinion, Fraud at Sloan Kettering <- something like that. 

I chew and eat about 20 apricot seeds a day and health effects are evident. Nitrilosides are also said to contain a vitamin b15 which is debated. My cardio health has improved among other things.



Riiiight.  It was a cover up.

You do your thang and I'll do mine.  My thing being not chewing up fruit seeds to release poison into my body.







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