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OfflineEveryday Struggle
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Really Need Advice From Anyone Qualified in Psychology I Guess!!??
    #22169130 - 08/31/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So i really do have a friend who has a habit with Benzodiazepines and he has really strange episodes even on low doses.
I have been on Benzo's for 6 years & never seen anything like this.
You can be talking to him about something and he replies with somthing unrelated!
But when he does it really looks like its him like he isn't all of a sudden sleeping
or i think i would be able to notice if he was blacked out, or.. would i??
Im really scared for this guy i hope someone can help us.
He says that when that happens he feels like he was somewhere else and then when he realizes that im telling him hes off topic he just feels like he just came back to reality it is sooo strange!
Im doing my best to taper him off benzo's, then my plan is to give him l-theanine and low doses of Phenibut (cycled) but so he doesn't have to feel like he just needs SOMETHING, and the theanine to up-regulate his BZD receptors.

ANY advice would be VERY helpful.

Thanks guys!!!


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Re: Really Need Advice From Anyone Qualified in Psychology I Guess!!?? [Re: Everyday Struggle]
    #22169165 - 08/31/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That sounds really bad :frown:
And whatever happened to being an alcoholic or a pothead? What's with all those psych meds?

I am NOT qualified! Repeat: I am NOT QUALIFIED!
But this just screams schizophrenia, and it'll get worse if left untreated. Take him to the professionals man.


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Re: Really Need Advice From Anyone Qualified in Psychology I Guess!!?? [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22169177 - 08/31/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Might be a form of seizure


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Re: Really Need Advice From Anyone Qualified in Psychology I Guess!!?? [Re: Everyday Struggle]
    #22169179 - 08/31/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I would highly recommend a powerful stack of nootropics for him (noopept and alpha GPC choline) as well as tapering down his benzo doses as much as possible and seeing a mental health specialist.

I have had that symptom with a high dose of "ecstasy" I took in berlin. I "came back" to reality from somewhere else in the middle of sexually inviting a close friend to oral sex in a totally inappropriate way. It was crazy. it was like I was asleep and woke up in the middle of saying highly inappropriate shit to an old friend.

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Re: Really Need Advice From Anyone Qualified in Psychology I Guess!!?? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22169292 - 08/31/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE REPLIES!

Yes we think it has something to do with schizophrenia,
he actually does have an Dr. appt. on the 3rd, i think he needs anti-psychotics,
given the tapering of the benzo's, but yeah i have some Noopept and i told him he needs to start taking that but i have never looked into Alpha-GPC but i am curious about it.
Considering i myself have memory issues as well.
Does Alpha-GPC really provide results??
Noopept really didn't seem to help me at all.."








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Re: Really Need Advice From Anyone Qualified in Psychology I Guess!!?? [Re: Everyday Struggle]
    #22169312 - 08/31/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I majored  in  Psychology at a University, so im probably qualified to give presciption/treament/diagnosis advice :lol:

Ok, i kid I kid.

From my brief knowledge of psychatric disorders, it sounds like your friend is having episodes of amensia coupled with delusions possibly from the Benzos. He could be taking other drugs, u should find out what else he could be taking.

It could be a side effect  of the drug or it could be an underlying mental issue coming out from the drug use.

Could be a sign of dementia maybe even the beginning of disorganized Schizophrenia.

I would consult a doctor for your friend.


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Re: Really Need Advice From Anyone Qualified in Psychology I Guess!!?? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22169328 - 08/31/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I actually have a degree in psychology.  Your friend needs to see the person who prescribed the meds.  He might also need to be in the bin and closely monitored Because it sounds like he is seriously out there.  I wish him well.


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Re: Really Need Advice From Anyone Qualified in Psychology I Guess!!?? [Re: Everyday Struggle]
    #22169334 - 08/31/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Noopept should be taken with a choline for optimal effect and alpha gpc is one of the best options.

The stack should help improve lucidity, mental clarity and memory to some extent and protect from/reverse any brain damage or whatever may be occurring somewhat.

I think he needs to get off the benzos rather then get on an antipsychotic. Stacking an antipsychotic with a benzo will likely make him even more of a space case.

The most likely explanation is not schizophrenia but rather benzo addiction, which causes blackouts, amnesia, cognitive decline, even alzheimers.

Trying to solve the problem with new medication and not changing the benzo intake is missing the point IMO.


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Re: Really Need Advice From Anyone Qualified in Psychology I Guess!!?? [Re: Everyday Struggle]
    #22169375 - 08/31/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Seems likely its the amnestic effects of the benzo. When individuals are "blacked out" they can interact with you and not remember a thing.


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Re: Really Need Advice From Anyone Qualified in Psychology I Guess!!?? [Re: badchad]
    #22169392 - 08/31/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

They can also babble nonsense, make no sense, not understand things, etc.

I think OP is looking too hard for a mental health explanation when really this is totally attributable to the well known effects of benzos as a drug.

To decide if there is a mental illness he would need to get off the benzos completely. If the problem persists, then a mental health perspective is needed.

Otherwise the most likely explanation by far is just the benzos. Jesus if people judged me by how I acted blacked out on benzos they might think there was something wrong with my brain.

There was- it was full of benzos.


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Re: Really Need Advice From Anyone Qualified in Psychology I Guess!!?? [Re: Everyday Struggle]
    #22169411 - 08/31/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Moonshoe i didn't mean he should stack anti-psychotics and benzo's if u read the previous posts youd see i said he is tapering the benzo's.

I did also fail to mention he uses meth too. Sorry....
but hes used this combo long term and had no issues as have i,
until i used both in high doses.
Like i said though, he displays these symptoms even at low doses!!!

So its probably just a long term effect maybe???

& Badchad Wouldn't i realize a difference in his demeanor if he was blacked out????


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Re: Really Need Advice From Anyone Qualified in Psychology I Guess!!?? [Re: Everyday Struggle]
    #22169436 - 08/31/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:facepalm:

Meth is notorious for causing psychosis.

He needs to quit benzos and meth, simple as that. So do you.


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Re: Really Need Advice From Anyone Qualified in Psychology I Guess!!?? [Re: Everyday Struggle]
    #22169464 - 08/31/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Everyday Struggle said:
I did also fail to mention he uses meth too.





:facepalm:

Well there's your problem

Just don't use meth man, just don't.


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Re: Really Need Advice From Anyone Qualified in Psychology I Guess!!?? [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22169499 - 08/31/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I  don't use that cocktail anymore i learned my lesson!!
That is why im really trying to help this guy,
he doesn't know how to go about quitting!!
I say he should just STOP the meth and taper the benzo's
then get on the regimen i put together for him for his bzd w/d as well as
noots for up-regulation and memory restoration...

Does anyone think different??


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Re: Really Need Advice From Anyone Qualified in Psychology I Guess!!?? [Re: Everyday Struggle]
    #22169528 - 08/31/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Nope, get off meth, taper off benzos, nootropics as the icing on the cake, he will be a different person if he does it, but meth and benzos are both beastly addictions in their own ways, so easier said then done. I do think its futile worrying about schizophrenia until these steps are taken first.


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Re: Really Need Advice From Anyone Qualified in Psychology I Guess!!?? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22170115 - 08/31/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

tell him to start taking st. johns wart
and stay away from thc

if he take anti psychotics he should be on them like a month tops
but they aren't really neccesary
something like risperdone

having schizophrenia is like uhm nothing lol
day to day life is harder and causes it to surge and stir at times

but hey he might be fucked up from taking benzo's for so long he might not notice anything during sobriety for sevearl months to a year


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Re: Really Need Advice From Anyone Qualified in Psychology I Guess!!?? [Re: Konyap]
    #22170119 - 08/31/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

are his teeth funny looking from meth?


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