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OfflineMaroon
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Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide?
    #22169060 - 08/31/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I've often thought in this globally connected world where all the rich are heavily influencing policies, that the political system was rigged beyond doubt. But then I thought why do all sides never call each other out and why are their views often  conveniently diametrically opposed. Why only two realistic candidates for one of the most important positions so they say.

It then hit me, all the past major players have come from or had connections to major economic families and organizations. Why would they expose each other since they are both living extravagant lifestyles, rather just keep the status quo and pretend to be eternal enemies, while we we turnout every 4 years just praying this "change" will come to fruition.

We become so preoccupied by these micro battles that political parities pretend to be concerned about  that we lose focus of the big picture and how all the rich people have been duping the public for years. I think political parties have become another rigged distraction in which just help hide the shadow forces that really do control policies and laws.


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UNDENIABLE PROOF A MODERATOR (Enlil) USES FRAUDULENT POSTS TO SUPOORT HIS OPINIONS.  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23596771#23596771 ; anyone can verify my original post in its unedited format. This proves the length the disinfo whores will go to defend pseudo theories. What quack jobs. Time to get out of moms basement.

One must ask why they would be complicit in crimes against humanity? Is debt based money really worth whoring out your credibility for?


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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: Maroon]
    #22169107 - 08/31/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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OfflineMaroon
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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: CirclesAndStuff]
    #22169141 - 08/31/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

And so the circle repeats?? All joking aside we have immense culmination techniques now to spread awareness. We are not as helpless as populations once were (maybe we were but we have new tools to try)


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UNDENIABLE PROOF A MODERATOR (Enlil) USES FRAUDULENT POSTS TO SUPOORT HIS OPINIONS.  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23596771#23596771 ; anyone can verify my original post in its unedited format. This proves the length the disinfo whores will go to defend pseudo theories. What quack jobs. Time to get out of moms basement.

One must ask why they would be complicit in crimes against humanity? Is debt based money really worth whoring out your credibility for?


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OfflineCirclesAndStuff
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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: Maroon]
    #22169331 - 08/31/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

While most of us have access to anything you could dream of knowing, there are a few problems with "spreading awareness". 1. Not everyone wants to know. 2. Not everyone will take the side you deem appropriatte. 3. The systems of control have been setup for so long that people have taken to a particular social construct or another. When you have been raised a certain way or believed something to be true your whole life, it's difficult for people to move past. I don't think we will ever have a massive "awakening". From my experience Its hard enough to keep myself out of the mud and stay on top of whats going on. Admittedly i am a bit disillusioned.

How would you go about spreading awareness?

"If you teach a man to fish, he'd better learn to cook."


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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: CirclesAndStuff]
    #22169861 - 08/31/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The rich are just as divided as the masses.  But yes, politics is mostly controlled by the oligarchy.


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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22172676 - 09/01/15 06:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think we just need to have real and genuine talks about stuff that actually matters. For example They got us talking about gun rights while they creating drones and have jets and tanks.

There is no way for the people to keep their govt in check anymore and they are abusing this inequality way more thane er before  in our recent history. I just want people to have real discussions and make progress on these conversations.

But it's hard when shills are all over spreading these fake views that always distract and deter from the progress to be made. We need some honest in adulterer discussions which I understand has become an impossibility due to these paid trolls that sabotage them.


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UNDENIABLE PROOF A MODERATOR (Enlil) USES FRAUDULENT POSTS TO SUPOORT HIS OPINIONS.  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23596771#23596771 ; anyone can verify my original post in its unedited format. This proves the length the disinfo whores will go to defend pseudo theories. What quack jobs. Time to get out of moms basement.

One must ask why they would be complicit in crimes against humanity? Is debt based money really worth whoring out your credibility for?


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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: Maroon]
    #22172826 - 09/01/15 07:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Gun control is an issue.  I think what people don't realize is that a lot of liberals own guns.  The NRA and GOP like to push a straw man argument that doesn't fairly illustrate where liberals are coming from.

Anyway Capatilsm is the elephant in the room in my opinion.  There's no way to have a working democracy that rests on an unstable and exploitive economic system.


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Why should we strive with cynic frown
To knock their fairy castles down?  ~ Eliza Cook

It's rather embarrassing to have given one's entire life to pondering the human predicament and to find that in the end one has little more to say than, 'Try to be a little kinder.' ~Aldous Huxley


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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22172834 - 09/01/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I agreed with your latter point. And the gun point I was trying to make is that they have us talking about rifles and handguns, while this right was to give people the same munitions as the govt to keep them in check.

In the days were they are years ahead of technology and have drones and such what good will rifles do to keep this over armed entity that's abusing us in check?


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UNDENIABLE PROOF A MODERATOR (Enlil) USES FRAUDULENT POSTS TO SUPOORT HIS OPINIONS.  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23596771#23596771 ; anyone can verify my original post in its unedited format. This proves the length the disinfo whores will go to defend pseudo theories. What quack jobs. Time to get out of moms basement.

One must ask why they would be complicit in crimes against humanity? Is debt based money really worth whoring out your credibility for?


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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: Maroon]
    #22172855 - 09/01/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

They won't but that's part of the narrative that it will.

I have family that hunt, I have friends that own guns.  These are people from all across the political spectrum.

Most of us calling for gun control are more concerned about our kids getting shot at school than we are about fighting off the U.S. military and we're not telling people they need to lose their guns, just that we as a culture need to do a better job keeping them out of the hands of kids and crazy people.

But you didn't start this thread to talk about gun control so lets get back to that elephant in the room.

Here's an interview you may like.



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Why should we strive with cynic frown
To knock their fairy castles down?  ~ Eliza Cook

It's rather embarrassing to have given one's entire life to pondering the human predicament and to find that in the end one has little more to say than, 'Try to be a little kinder.' ~Aldous Huxley


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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22173134 - 09/01/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Here's another you may like.  Less about economic systems and more about how we've moved towards oligarchy.



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Why should we strive with cynic frown
To knock their fairy castles down?  ~ Eliza Cook

It's rather embarrassing to have given one's entire life to pondering the human predicament and to find that in the end one has little more to say than, 'Try to be a little kinder.' ~Aldous Huxley


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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: Maroon]
    #22174906 - 09/01/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Maroon said:
I think we just need to have real and genuine talks about stuff that actually matters. For example They got us talking about gun rights while they creating drones and have jets and tanks.

There is no way for the people to keep their govt in check anymore and they are abusing this inequality way more thane er before  in our recent history. I just want people to have real discussions and make progress on these conversations.

But it's hard when shills are all over spreading these fake views that always distract and deter from the progress to be made. We need some honest in adulterer discussions which I understand has become an impossibility due to these paid trolls that sabotage them.




If we can get an outsider in office who is not already bought and sold like jeb, hill or most of the others, we have a chance. That's why the big shots are working so hard to take that away from us.

>But it's hard when shills are all over spreading these fake views that always distract and deter from the progress to be made. We need some honest in adulterer discussions which I understand has become an impossibility due to these paid trolls that sabotage them.

Very true, and the shroomery is no exception


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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: Maroon]
    #22176356 - 09/01/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

I agreed with your latter point. And the gun point I was trying to make is that they have us talking about rifles and handguns, while this right was to give people the same munitions as the govt to keep them in check.

In the days were they are years ahead of technology and have drones and such what good will rifles do to keep this over armed entity that's abusing us in check?



   
    Dude , are you saying we should all own tanks , rocket launchers  and drones with bombs and shit . Well fuck ya .  I don't how much a rocket launcher  costs and  I don't care  cause your buying me one right?  Assuming we could own whatever it is your talking about who would pay for it ?  Only rich people could afford to keep the govt in check .


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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22176786 - 09/02/15 01:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

paperbackwriter said:
Gun control is an issue.  I think what people don't realize is that a lot of liberals own guns.  The NRA and GOP like to push a straw man argument that doesn't fairly illustrate where liberals are coming from.

Anyway Capatilsm is the elephant in the room in my opinion.  There's no way to have a working democracy that rests on an unstable and exploitive economic system.





Exactly capitalism is failing us.


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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: GoblinKing]
    #22177140 - 09/02/15 06:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Not only is capitalism failing. But the economic policies of central banks are failing. You think they will go down without a fight?


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One must ask why they would be complicit in crimes against humanity? Is debt based money really worth whoring out your credibility for?


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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: Maroon] * 1
    #22177188 - 09/02/15 06:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Honestly I think we'll need a large labor movement in this country like we had before the New Deal.

If a large enough percentage of workers go on strike on a big enough day (say...  Black Friday) we'll get enough attention to start to change things.

But I'm not talking wage increases and better benefits.  Workers need to be able to participate and this needs to be enshrined in our laws.

Germany passed a law that requires large companies to give workers seats on the company board.

It's essentially a Capitalist/Socialist hybrid system and is one of the ways I believe we can begin to transition out of Capitalism without violent revolution.


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Why should we strive with cynic frown
To knock their fairy castles down?  ~ Eliza Cook

It's rather embarrassing to have given one's entire life to pondering the human predicament and to find that in the end one has little more to say than, 'Try to be a little kinder.' ~Aldous Huxley


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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: Maroon]
    #22180826 - 09/02/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Maroon said:
Not only is capitalism failing. But the economic policies of central banks are failing. You think they will go down without a fight?




The Rothschild world Bank will not go quietly in the night.


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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: GoblinKing]
    #22186640 - 09/04/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Watch out for upcoming possible false flag cyber bank and power grid attacks. Stock up on food and water.


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One must ask why they would be complicit in crimes against humanity? Is debt based money really worth whoring out your credibility for?


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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: Maroon] * 3
    #22188012 - 09/04/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Nothing ever changes. More people are starting to notice this.



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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: zorbman]
    #22188156 - 09/04/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Good one, zorb!


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Re: Bipartisan politics used to conquer and divide? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22200452 - 09/07/15 02:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Five people posted "just in case you thought it was about a three day weekend" (pictures of caskets with american flags on them) on my facebook today. Tell me again how most of us are waking up... There is definitely a paradigm shift taking place but if you think the mass of people will be wise to you it you're lying to yourself.


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